growingforfun
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Well then it seems you just dont get it. An no amount of explaining well make it clear to you. Carry on
HLG vs HGL Side By Side Take 2
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hybridway2
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Its like the difference between growing full time & trying to grow full time with a job & family. Full time meaning a 40 hr week.
That's the stress level for starters with less then 1/8 the time needed to have a perfect 2 oz (24-30oz that looks as well cared for) plant or a few.
Now wash the potts, fans, room, rez, maintenance, overhead, multi-strain, sizes, potting x3 before flower. Try transplanting a 3.5x3.5x4' or bigger plant budddy. The list is a Millong
That's the stress level for starters with less then 1/8 the time needed to have a perfect 2 oz (24-30oz that looks as well cared for) plant or a few.
Now wash the potts, fans, room, rez, maintenance, overhead, multi-strain, sizes, potting x3 before flower. Try transplanting a 3.5x3.5x4' or bigger plant budddy. The list is a Millong
No, we'ze cool man. Not meaning to sound snappy.
hybridway2
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If you guys think i have anything against small growers you're Trippin!!!
Thats a few guys spinning shit around.
Talking about differences in growing he plant is all.
Pls Dont be one to jump the band wagon especially when you know im not like that.
Thats a few guys spinning shit around.
Talking about differences in growing he plant is all.
Pls Dont be one to jump the band wagon especially when you know im not like that.
hybridway2
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Oh it depends on the spectrum when using Burple dude. No many # of photons can save you from a bad spectrum dude.
CoB_nUt
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I've run some blurples. Got great quality from them as well,well the ones I ran in flower did well. I still veg with some.
I wouldn't know a bad spectrum in blurples as I don't have experience with many different manufacturers. I've only used 2. California light works and Advanced Led.
I think spectrum can and will bring out certain growth characteristics,terps and even finish some cultivars "earlier". I still stand by the fact that photon count is king with spectrum being the sidekick. Not sure we disagree here,but if we do that is ok.
Is there a bad spectrum to grow cannabis with? I'm sure there is,photon count being equal. I've seen ganja grown with incandescent light bulbs.No comparison to blurples,but blurples aren't all that bad. Just the diodes/chips were shit and inefficient for the longest time and short corners were taken when using some parts to construct some of the off the shelf led lights.
I wonder how much R&D it would take to create "bad" spectrums and see how they grow the ganja. Lol, a lot of bread working backwards to get to the "ideal" ganja spectrum.
Lucky Luke
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fair enough, but when i worked on farms and planted acres of seed by tractor it was the same as how the native Forrest are often planted with re growth, except they often plant by plane. When i plant a single seed im doing the exact same thing (except with more care)
When i worked in vineyards and picked grapes for weeks on end its basically the same as bucking buds (except with more care)
When i had to get up at 2 am to refuel the tractor and move everything to irrigate a different section its basically the same as me grabbing a watering can and watering one plant. (except with more care)
Just because the scale is different doesn't mean is not basically the same. Your even arguing with what you yourself said. Cause u were right- is basicly the same. Its easy to scale up or down and if have the basics down pat. Retired vegetable farmers have the best small vegie patches for eg.
Lucky Luke
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i thought you were a small time grower like the majority of us?
U didnt answer my Q. How long did u veg for and what do u call a long time veg?
growingforfun
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Once your used to how things scale it's easy to operate on the scale.
How many times have you read about someone going from a 1 or 2 plant grow to a 20 or 40 plant room and them say it was the hardest thing they ever did and so much more work than they imagined and so many issues came up?
Why is it when someone asks about doing a warehouse grow their investor will fund and only grew one time last year they get laughed at?
Scale matters. 1 plant in a 1 gallon pot is much differant than 20 in 5-10 gallon pots running 5-10 strains.
Personal growers are just fine an nothing against them, it's just when someone who hasnt done something tells someone who's DOING IT that they are fucking it up they have zero experience to understand.
What about this is so difficult for you?
Lucky Luke
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its not difficult for me at all, ur the one who is saying the Bascis are not the same and then not saying how. You then jump into time and difficulty...Of cause time increases with scale. Im saying the growing basics are exactly the same. PH is the same, when to water is the same, best environment is the same- its all basically the same.
If u can grow one plant u can grow 1000. U just have to do the exact same thing 999 more times.
Look at how they teach agriculture at school- they start with a very small veggie garden- with that they train people in agriculture science. How do they do that? Cause its the same, only difference is scale.
growingforfun
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You must have failed to read my first post you responded to that got you all pissy.
I cant be bothered with you anymore
growingforfun
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1 final hint. These 1 or 2 plant growers spending a hour a day fawning over there area, explain the practicality of someone at 20x scale spending 20-40 hours a day in their grow, and 8 hours a day at work.
I said this in the first post but you just glossed over it an screamed NUHuh
I said this in the first post but you just glossed over it an screamed NUHuh
Lucky Luke
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im not pissy at all..3rd cup of coffee for the day, have one maybe 2 hrs of work today and then taking the boat out fishing, its even Friday. I'm far from pissy.
Scale by definition is taking the basics and changing its size.
Lucky Luke
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i didnt even quote u in the first post i mentioned it in, i was referring to Hybrids remark. You quoted me remember
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Lucky Luke
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thats called scale. Basic growing is the same.
growingforfun
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Ok your right, for tweakers spending 60 hours a day (lol) in their room with greenlight headlamps it's the exact same. How could I have overlooked what's obvious to you?
I'm just in retard land where I have to hold done a job and spend time with family.
Lucky Luke
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you sound upset? Dont be, life is to short. Enjoy it.
Lucky Luke
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Just reminiscing...I remember my first agriculture job as a young teenager. Picking rocks.
Paddock was rottery hoed and being volcanic soil was full of rocks both big and small and our job was to pick them up and carry them to a trailer we dumped them on. Back breaking work... 1st rock or a week of rocks- basics was the same.
Dont pick rocks, worse then peas.
Paddock was rottery hoed and being volcanic soil was full of rocks both big and small and our job was to pick them up and carry them to a trailer we dumped them on. Back breaking work... 1st rock or a week of rocks- basics was the same.
Dont pick rocks, worse then peas.
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