HLG setup

[TravisG13]

Ok so I have been looking into heatsinks for a while and it seems there is a lot to look into, and while it seems they may not be necessary most people are saying it improves efficiency and lifespan so I'm pretty sure I want some...

Thing is what to go with, a aluminum sheet might be adequate but would a

Slate 2

Pre drilled heatsink for QB304 Quantum Board

horticulturelightinggroup.com

Or a

1x BIG Aluminum Heat Sink Radiator (300 mm x 225 mm x 40 mm) Heatsink 2.3 kg | eBay

1x BIGGEST Soviet USSR Aluminum Heat Sink. (300 mm x 225 mmx 40 mm). weight - 2.3 kg. the weight - 2.3 kg. The thickness of the edge fins of the radiator - 4 mm. The thickness at the base of the radiator - 6 mm.

www.ebay.com

Provide enough better efficiency to be worth the cost?

I also live pretty close to heatsink usa apparently... Never knew it was there...

Its going to wind up costing more to put heatsinks on each of these light panels than the panels cost me themselves lol

Also it looks like the hlg one is pre-drilled for boards other than the ones I'm getting, didnt see any for the ones im getting but I have a drill press so it shouldn't be too big of an issue

 

[TravisG13]

Alright so to not overdrive these I would want to run them at 75 watts or less... The driver I ordered is a 2100A so if I do 3 boards on it it will push 80 watts per board and if I put all 4 boards on it it will be pushing 60 watts per board... The way people are talking it sounds like the 4 boards at lower watts would be more efficient and have a better footprint and all around basically be better... Can that be true? Cost can't be the only downside, right?

Seems a shame I was hoping 2 would be enough for my 2x4 space but I dont want to be over pushing the boards or not providing enough light...

On the other hand if it is more light than I need would I be better off getting smaller drivers and putting less lights per tent? Say 2 or 3 of them?

 

[GBAUTO]

My neighbor runs 3 of the QB's on a 320w driver on her 2x4 closet grow. Crushes the space

 

[NGA]

meanwell lrs-350-36 will run 4 132 boards perfectly build a couple last year

 

[R Burns]

@TravisG13 assembled my latest this morning. Thought you could use the inspiration.

 

[rob333]

Alright guys you got me all excited reading about quantum boards and what not and I think I may have gone a little too far with this.

I went ahead and ordered a 4 pack of the HLG 132 3000k quantum board and a PowerNex-HLG-320H-C2100A because people were saying good things about them

Amazon.com : Horticulture Lighting Group 4X QB132 V2 Quantum Boards (3000K) : Electronics

Amazon.com : Horticulture Lighting Group 4X QB132 V2 Quantum Boards (3000K) : Electronics

www.amazon.com

[PowerNex] Mean Well HLG-320H-C2100A 152V 2100mA 319.2W Single Output Switching LED Power Supply with PFC: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

[PowerNex] Mean Well HLG-320H-C2100A 152V 2100mA 319.2W Single Output Switching LED Power Supply with PFC: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

www.amazon.com

I HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO WIRE THESE THINGS
I have 2 2x4 tents and I was hoping that 2 of the lights would be good per tent (I'm also hoping I can eventually pick up on a 4 pack of 4000k lights)

Anyone have a good guide to building these? I hope I didn't get in over my head.

did u get wago connectors ?

 

[rob333]

Ok so I have been looking into heatsinks for a while and it seems there is a lot to look into, and while it seems they may not be necessary most people are saying it improves efficiency and lifespan so I'm pretty sure I want some...

Thing is what to go with, a aluminum sheet might be adequate but would a

Slate 2

Pre drilled heatsink for QB304 Quantum Board

horticulturelightinggroup.com

Or a

1x BIG Aluminum Heat Sink Radiator (300 mm x 225 mm x 40 mm) Heatsink 2.3 kg | eBay

1x BIGGEST Soviet USSR Aluminum Heat Sink. (300 mm x 225 mmx 40 mm). weight - 2.3 kg. the weight - 2.3 kg. The thickness of the edge fins of the radiator - 4 mm. The thickness at the base of the radiator - 6 mm.

www.ebay.com

Provide enough better efficiency to be worth the cost?

I also live pretty close to heatsink usa apparently... Never knew it was there...

Its going to wind up costing more to put heatsinks on each of these light panels than the panels cost me themselves lol

Also it looks like the hlg one is pre-drilled for boards other than the ones I'm getting, didnt see any for the ones im getting but I have a drill press so it shouldn't be too big of an issue

i pretty sure u dont need a heatsink for the board the thermo transfer from the metal base to the board should be enough have u got like a blue film on the back of the board ?

 

[TravisG13]

did u get wago connectors ?

Yes I did order wago connectors, 3 and 2 slot ones.

i pretty sure u dont need a heatsink for the board the thermo transfer from the metal base to the board should be enough have u got like a blue film on the back of the board ?

I havent recieved them in the mail yet, hopefully Ill be lucky and it will be there

@TravisG13 assembled my latest this morning. Thought you could use the inspiration.
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Awesome looks good! I can't wait to see these in action on my own plants

 

[coreywebster]

What size space are you lighting up Travis?

 

[TravisG13]

What size space are you lighting up Travis?

It is a 2' x 4' grow tent, I am scrogging to really try to fill up that footprint... I have 2 of the tents actually... Its looking like I may want to order more panels to light them both





It seems after posting a few threads that may be a detail I accidentally left out of this one, sorry.

I hope these new lights get here soon and I can get them set up quick this forum is making me embarrassed of my blurple lights lol

 

[coreywebster]

It is a 2' x 4' grow tent, I am scrogging to really try to fill up that footprint... I have 2 of the tents actually... Its looking like I may want to order more panels to light them both

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It seems after posting a few threads that may be a detail I accidentally left out of this one, sorry.

I hope these new lights get here soon and I can get them set up quick this forum is making me embarrassed of my blurple lights lol

lol

Cool, I only ask because it gives me an idea of how hard you want to be running those boards and if you need a heat sink.
I know you mentioned a meanwell hlg 320 constant current driver , if you run them without heat sink at 70w each you have around 280w which is plenty for that space tent. So you could dim them down to that on the 320 driver. Or just mount them on an aluminium plate.

If you do go with HLG heat sink then make sure you can mount them on it(ask @Stephenj37826 ), I know they are drilled out to fit 288 and 304 boards, don't think they are for the 132s . Not that you cant solve that problem like.

 

[WaterDog]

Ok so the 4 pack of lights I bought says "no heatsink required"... Is it still recommended that I get some?

Mine will burn the shit out of you if you grab them while on. Don't think because they are leds they don't get hot. they do I have HLG 550s and 600s

 

[Nizza]

i was looking earlier and a dude just built a frame out of PVC then used zip ties to suspend the board

 

[TravisG13]

i was looking earlier and a dude just built a frame out of PVC then used zip ties to suspend the board

I seen a pic like that on a review of one of the lights on amazon, kinda considering it since I have a lot of pvc but a little worried it wont be sturdy enough

 

[Nizza]

it isnt about it being sturdy enough...
if considering a heatsync its because you ordered a driver that was too big and want to overdrive the boards

at this point, over 75 w per board, you now would need a heatsync instead of that pvc rig.

 

[TravisG13]

it isnt about it being sturdy enough...
if considering a heatsync its because you ordered a driver that was too big and want to overdrive the boards

at this point, over 75 w per board, you now would need a heatsync instead of that pvc rig.

Dude I don't want to overdrive the boards I simply don't know enough about how this shit works

 

[Nizza]

i agree . the heatsink is a fail safe and l think if you got a driver with too high of an output now you need some sort of meter to set it to the correct watts per board

 

[TravisG13]

i agree . the heatsink is a fail safe and l think if you got a driver with too high of an output now you need some sort of meter to set it to the correct watts per board

Ok I'm having a hard time finding the thread where I was reading about the drivers but from what I read it sounded like with a 2100a driver if I do 3 boards on it it will push 80 watts per board and if I put all 4 boards on it it will be pushing 60 watts per board...without dimming at all that is.

Am I misunderstanding what I read? Am I looking at the wrong details on the driver? I already ordered a mean well hlg-320h-c2100a

I would like to get a meter to be sure each board is getting the right watts though,I'll have to do some looking around just to figure out what meter that would be lol. If this is way overkill for the lighting for my space I can get a smaller driver though...

I just need a little help figuring out what I need to know and where to learn these things

 

[TravisG13]

Well my boards made it in the mail along with some of the wago connectors, kinda odd these were shipped together but the other connectors didnt come with them





Still more to get before I can set them up but I'm really excited!

 

[TravisG13]

i pretty sure u dont need a heatsink for the board the thermo transfer from the metal base to the board should be enough have u got like a blue film on the back of the board ?

It did not come with blue film