Alaska Morbloom, WTF?

[beacher]

I grabbed a bottle of this today as it's 0-10-10 and thought it would be great to use with mega crop to boost my PK ratios.

I mixed a test batch at half strength of what they recommend on the bottle and it came out to 1040ppm (tap water plus ~900ppm). That seems crazy high for only half strength. It also brought the pH down to 4.5!!?! Like WTF lol

So I tossed that batch and mixed some at 1/4 strength (5ml/gallon) and it gave 420 ppm and about 5ph. Thats my tap water plus roughly 250ppm. I add another 5ml to the gallon and the ppms are again 1000.
How is this even physically possible? The first tsp raised it by 250, and the second raised it an additional 500+??

I've now mixed and tossed 3 batches with the same results, can anyone explain how this could happen?

Also has anyone used this stuff? Any tips would be nice, I'm considering just chucking the bottle lol.

 

[MrToad69]

Rather than toss..Why wouldnt you just add more water?

 

[MrToad69]

Enough of the smart ass comments..As for some practical feedback..
Yea, it does seem high..first question..are you shaking or stirring the fertilizer before you mix..some claim that some nutrients precipitate out do to their higher concentrations. Hence, variability.
Dilute some if you mixes rather than toss if you have some younger plants, or even a house plant to experiment with..lime, dolomite baking soda, ph up...and get the ph up...not that you should have to.
Seems very strange..got start narrowing down..use some reverse osmosis water to mix, make sure you shake, measure properly..What is the starting pH of your water?
Gotta pin down that variability some how.

Hope that give you at least a little something to help determine the issue

Toad

 

[Jypsy Dog]

I use Morblooom 5ml. per gallon. Weeks 5-7.

 

[beacher]

Thanks, Mr Toad! I'm not too worried about the ph honestly, I have pH up. I'm more confused how one teaspoon can raise ppm by 250 and the second teaspoon raises it 500. That should be impossible.

i shook the bottle very well every time, and tried 3 times to make sure I'm not crazy lol. The batches I tossed went onto the garden outside, so no waste there.

i want to use this in addition to mega crop to bump my PK ratios, but without being able to accurately judge the concentration of it I'm a bit nervous about it.

 

[beacher]

I use Morblooom 5ml. per gallon. Weeks 5-7.

Cool, do you use it every watering? Also, do you feed it by itself or mix with other nutes?

What do your pH and ppms look like at that strength? I'm in week 5 now and thought this would be a perfect PK boost ..

 

[Jypsy Dog]

Cool, do you use it every watering? Also, do you feed it by itself or mix with other nutes?

What do your pH and ppms look like at that strength? I'm in week 5 now and thought this would be a perfect PK boost ..

I only use as/If needed. I feed with Maxbloom it's 5-15-14. I rarely push past 1100 ppm in flower. Coco 5.8/6.1 Shits killer in my DWC Cucumber grow.

 

[beacher]

Cool thanks, dank looking cukes there!

 

[Gemtree]

Aren't organic ppms not accurate because Ec uses salt to measure? That might be your problem

 

[beacher]

Aren't organic ppms not accurate because Ec uses salt to measure? That might be your problem

I've definitely read something like that but am not really sure tbh. I guess I'll just use it very lightly and bring the ppms up the rest of the way with mega crop.

 

[mordynyc]

This stuff is very acidic and "natural." It is not meant for indoor grows unless you have a large plant and feed it high alkaline tap.
We have 7+ PH 400ppm tap here and for outdoor plants u mix this with tap and feed around the plant. Outside you have more elements and organic soil has tons of shit to lower the Ph naturally.

 

[mordynyc]

Aren't organic ppms not accurate because Ec uses salt to measure? That might be your problem

PPM is PPM or Grams/L or mL/L or.....
0.10.10=20% solution.
I TBSP is 15ML.
.2x15=3.

3ml/L=3000 PPM.
In one galling=3000/4= you get the picture.
Their 5-1-1 fish is organic and not all soluble right away.
The morbloom is "natural" but seems processed so it feeds quicker.

 

[AquaTerra]

The Alaska stuff should be just used as an additive as its super strong fish based fertilizer.

 

[Chip Green]

I've been known to use morbloom as pH down, to level out my 7.8 tap water, in rare circumstances.
Like a single 2ml pipette squeeze into a 2-3 gal bucket.
Potent stuff.

 

[mordynyc]

I've been known to use morbloom as pH down, to level out my 7.8 tap water, in rare circumstances.
Like a single 2ml pipette squeeze into a 2-3 gal bucket.
Potent stuff.

7.8 let me guess desert? What ppm? The higher ppm the more solution u need to change the ph

 

[Chip Green]

desert?

Nope. Upper Peninsula of MI.
The local water is actually very good at 100(ish) ppm, it just taps out a little alkaline, which in most cases I completely ignore.

 

[OrganicBudz]

I use it too. Literally about 1/4 strength. Its almost like it gets more concentrated in the bottle. if your water has alot of calcium makes a big difference on amounts. City tap water around here usually only takes 1/4 strength but if used in our well water its more than half strength both for a ph of 6.5 ish