Top feeding

[Snail1976]

I run

It varies ... light aerated mixes perform well.
Hydro / DWC seem to make larger autos as roots explode in these setups.
Some are strain specific and grow large ( Big Bud XL / NL / Mephisto / others )

One trick to getting them to VEG better ( start at a high cycle 20/4 or even 24/0 ) plant will energize growth faster under long
cycles THEN when transitioning to sex / preflower either leave cycle or go to 18/6. You want that shorter veg stage to get all it can get.
That’s why I just let medium feed it and light power it. I no longer feed ( bottle ) during this stage as a well ammended soil will do the work. Less chance of fuck up.

Once you start burning , overfeeding , overwatering, stressing these autos during this critical stage , you will notice less than stellar
returns. Autos do not have time to recover from any mishaps. Sativa leans do benefit from LST and some minor topping , but that’s about it. You can also Bend her over for a simple tie down ( 3 nodes growth ) and lateral branching will now grow upwards .

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2-3 ounces per smaller autos is about average ... some can push 100 / 200 grams and better. Seen some outdoor autos really get large in 20gallon bags . Breeder estimates are to be taken with a grain of salt on yields ..... some say 600 grams ... but expect those are outdoor greenhouse monitored grows ( or lab ). I grew 4-5 foot indoors so it’s possible I guess.

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It’s trial and error period . Some breeders are better some are bunk. You can have super autos that have strong parental
lines and shit like dwarfy strains ( perfect for SOG perpetuals ) ...

I recommend minimum 3/5/7 gallon for most indoor —— 1- 2 gallon ( bags ) for SOG grows.
They grow pretty much in any container ....

Solo grow for seeding / fem pollen experimenting....
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Would have showed you more but since this site update ......
BUT All my journals are pretty much gone apparently.
Pics and all .... FFFFFUUUUUUCCCCCKKKK

Just remember LESS IS MORE with these. GL

my lights 24/7 start to finish. Do you think I should go 20/4 or 18/6 during flower?? I really appreciate your information!

 

[Budzbuddha]

I personally never found a discernible difference running 24/0 beginning to end over 20/4 or 18/6 .
Plants need to metabolize all that light energy and wants to rest . Some will argue this point but where on earth is it 24/0 other than finland. Normal natural light cycles in nature have daytime and nighttime.

You are trying to mimic this way of nature indoors.
Even the 18/6 - 20/4 times are some what exaggerated compared to Mother Nature. I run 24/0
ONLY to get the initial growth of rooting to setup fast as it is in a ROOTING STAGE right at start. I then Transplant cup ... then switch to 20/4 or 18/6 till end.

Which ever one you choose ... STAY on it .
Both work very similar.

 

[Snail1976]

Iv

I personally never found a discernible difference running 24/0 beginning to end over 20/4 or 18/6 .
Plants need to metabolize all that light energy and wants to rest . Some will argue this point but where on earth is it 24/0 other than finland. Normal natural light cycles in nature have daytime and nighttime.

You are trying to mimic this way of nature indoors.
Even the 18/6 - 20/4 times are some what exaggerated compared to Mother Nature. I run 24/0
ONLY to get the initial growth of rooting to setup fast as it is in a ROOTING STAGE right at start. I then Transplant cup ... then switch to 20/4 or 18/6 till end.

Which ever one you choose ... STAY on it .
Both work very similar.

tried 18/6 too and didn’t see a big difference either. You transplant autos?? I heard that they couldn’t be transplanted so I never tried it. My plants are starting to stretch now so I may go 20/4 and see what happens.

 

[Snail1976]

I personally never found a discernible difference running 24/0 beginning to end over 20/4 or 18/6 .
Plants need to metabolize all that light energy and wants to rest . Some will argue this point but where on earth is it 24/0 other than finland. Normal natural light cycles in nature have daytime and nighttime.

You are trying to mimic this way of nature indoors.
Even the 18/6 - 20/4 times are some what exaggerated compared to Mother Nature. I run 24/0
ONLY to get the initial growth of rooting to setup fast as it is in a ROOTING STAGE right at start. I then Transplant cup ... then switch to 20/4 or 18/6 till end.

Which ever one you choose ... STAY on it .
Both work very similar.

I think I may go 20/4 as they stretch a little more.

 

[Snail1976]

Iv

tried 18/6 too and didn’t see a big difference either. You transplant autos?? I heard that they couldn’t be transplanted so I never tried it. My plants are starting to stretch now so I may go 20/4 and see what happens.

I use a 4x4x6 tent but I have a 2x2x5 tent and led veg light that I think I’m going to start a photo plant in. I’m going to top it and tie it down because of the limited height of 5 foot tent. An experiment plant to see what I can do with it. I’m limited on room and electric.

 

[ruxing]

It varies ... light aerated mixes perform well.
Hydro / DWC seem to make larger autos as roots explode in these setups.
Some are strain specific and grow large ( Big Bud XL / NL / Mephisto / others )

One trick to getting them to VEG better ( start at a high cycle 20/4 or even 24/0 ) plant will energize growth faster under long
cycles THEN when transitioning to sex / preflower either leave cycle or go to 18/6. You want that shorter veg stage to get all it can get.
That’s why I just let medium feed it and light power it. I no longer feed ( bottle ) during this stage as a well ammended soil will do the work. Less chance of fuck up.

Once you start burning , overfeeding , overwatering, stressing these autos during this critical stage , you will notice less than stellar
returns. Autos do not have time to recover from any mishaps. Sativa leans do benefit from LST and some minor topping , but that’s about it. You can also Bend her over for a simple tie down ( 3 nodes growth ) and lateral branching will now grow upwards .

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2-3 ounces per smaller autos is about average ... some can push 100 / 200 grams and better. Seen some outdoor autos really get large in 20gallon bags . Breeder estimates are to be taken with a grain of salt on yields ..... some say 600 grams ... but expect those are outdoor greenhouse monitored grows ( or lab ). I grew 4-5 foot indoors so it’s possible I guess.

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It’s trial and error period . Some breeders are better some are bunk. You can have super autos that have strong parental
lines and shit like dwarfy strains ( perfect for SOG perpetuals ) ...

I recommend minimum 3/5/7 gallon for most indoor —— 1- 2 gallon ( bags ) for SOG grows.
They grow pretty much in any container ....

Solo grow for seeding / fem pollen experimenting....
View attachment 4412942

Would have showed you more but since this site update ......
BUT All my journals are pretty much gone apparently.
Pics and all .... FFFFFUUUUUUCCCCCKKKK

Just remember LESS IS MORE with these. GL

Thanks for sharing.... again apparently? That's some BS! They don't back their shit up? Dude I feel for ya!

 

[PeterPan420]

I use a 4x4x6 tent but I have a 2x2x5 tent and led veg light that I think I’m going to start a photo plant in. I’m going to top it and tie it down because of the limited height of 5 foot tent. An experiment plant to see what I can do with it. I’m limited on room and electric.

I think I’ve read some where about not to top your auto?