Week 7 of flower, dealing with headache

Bushbaby11

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Hi guys

I'm currently on week 7 of flower and running into some issues

Strain - choc mint og (apparently)

1 x 600w light

15L bucket (dwc with 2 bubbles in)

Ph - 5.8-6.0

Ec - 1.2-1.4 (was at 1.8 but signs of nute burn so calmed down with nutes)

Water temps (when lights off 15-17c
Water temps (when lights on 18c - 19c

Room temp when lights are off 13c - 19c roughly
Room temp when lights are on - 24c - 28c roughly

Nutes - shogun hydro A & B, Shougun sumo active boost, shogun pk warrior & calmag


I did have a nute lockout issue/ph issue so was flushed with ph'd water for 2 days and all was fine again.

Over the last few days, the stems have turned purple/red, leaves yellowing and dying (which is normal in late flower)

Googled it and think it could possibly be cold stress? I could be wrong but does anyone have an idea?
 

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xtsho

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Those plants have been fried from overfeeding. Yellowing and dying leaves are not normal for the stage at which we harvest. You're not going to fix that damage. Cut way back on the nutes and ride it out until harvest.
 

Frank Nitty

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Those plants have been fried from overfeeding. Yellowing and dying leaves are not normal for the stage at which we harvest. You're not going to fix that damage. Cut way back on the nutes and ride it out until harvest.
That's exactly what I have to do...
 

ukflowzy

Member
Hi guys

I'm currently on week 7 of flower and running into some issues

Strain - choc mint og (apparently)

1 x 600w light

15L bucket (dwc with 2 bubbles in)

Ph - 5.8-6.0

Ec - 1.2-1.4 (was at 1.8 but signs of nute burn so calmed down with nutes)

Water temps (when lights off 15-17c
Water temps (when lights on 18c - 19c

Room temp when lights are off 13c - 19c roughly
Room temp when lights are on - 24c - 28c roughly

Nutes - shogun hydro A & B, Shougun sumo active boost, shogun pk warrior & calmag


I did have a nute lockout issue/ph issue so was flushed with ph'd water for 2 days and all was fine again.

Over the last few days, the stems have turned purple/red, leaves yellowing and dying (which is normal in late flower)

Googled it and think it could possibly be cold stress? I could be wrong but does anyone have an idea?
Just feed plain ph water for the rest of the grow and it will use up all the stored nutes
 

Bushbaby11

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Those plants have been fried from overfeeding. Yellowing and dying leaves are not normal for the stage at which we harvest. You're not going to fix that damage. Cut way back on the nutes and ride it out until harvest.
Over feeding seriously? I didn't think i was over doing it tbh? Lol
 

Bernie420

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Those plants have been fried from overfeeding. Yellowing and dying leaves are not normal for the stage at which we harvest. You're not going to fix that damage. Cut way back on the nutes and ride it out until harvest.
That isnt over feeding
 

Bernie420

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Over feeding seriously? I didn't think i was over doing it tbh? Lol
No your not over feeding. You have been a little light on the nitrogen and mag, a few signs of a potassium deficiency as well. Natural progression of the plant at this stage, just keep doing wht your doing like the other guy said and ride it out


I did have a nute lockout issue/ph issue so was flushed with ph'd water for 2 days and all was fine again.
If you had a problem then just do a water change and get things back on track and in balance. You starved your plant for two days.

Over the last few days, the stems have turned purple/red, leaves yellowing and dying (which is normal in late flower)
It would take longer than two days to do that, again little low on the mag imo then natural growth but thats debatable since so late in flower and your temps have a fall weather aspect to it.


Not cold stress from the temps at this stage late in flower, veg or early flower might of been getting a little bit cold. I think that the water temp is a bit low try to maintain it at 68-70 degrees for the average if it swings a bit. Happy roots happy fruits.
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xtsho

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That isnt over feeding
Incorrect feeding. Either way there isn't much that can be done this late into flower. That Shogun sumo active boost is also Triacontanol a PGR.

And I respectfully disagree that the leaves should look like that at this stage. That's how they should look well past being done when the plant is dying, if in nature seeds are finished and falling out of the plant. Where did this yellowing and dead leaves are normal stuff come from? A healthy plant at harvest shouldn't look like that. I'm surprised so many think crispy fried leave like that is normal. Sign of the times I guess. So many people fry their plants one way or another that it's now considered to be normal.
 

Bernie420

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Incorrect feeding.
agreed not enough incorrect either way.

Either way there isn't much that can be done this late into flower.
agreed

That Shogun sumo active boost is also Triacontanol a PGR.
if your saying you shouldnt be feeding a pgr at this stage.,
agreed

And I respectfully disagree that the leaves should look like that at this stage.
agree disagree no it doesnt look exactly natural but it doesnt look that bad for week seven

That's how they should look well past being done when the plant is dying, if in nature seeds are finished and falling out of the plant.
or look worse

Where did this yellowing and dead leaves are normal stuff come from?
From the internets............their in week seven every grow cant be home runs some are triples

A healthy plant at harvest shouldn't look like that.
ehh, you dont want really green leaves at harves again it doesnt look exactly natural but plants will be plants.

I'm surprised so many think crispy fried leave like that is normal.
Their not "fried" deficient and fugly not fried. Its not from over feeding the plant.

Sign of the times I guess.
what can you do Burn one forget about it.

So many people fry their plants one way or another that it's now considered to be normal.
crazy fuckers cut your hair and get a job
 

Bushbaby11

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Incorrect feeding.
agreed not enough incorrect either way.

Either way there isn't much that can be done this late into flower.
agreed

That Shogun sumo active boost is also Triacontanol a PGR.
if your saying you shouldnt be feeding a pgr at this stage.,
agreed

And I respectfully disagree that the leaves should look like that at this stage.
agree disagree no it doesnt look exactly natural but it doesnt look that bad for week seven

That's how they should look well past being done when the plant is dying, if in nature seeds are finished and falling out of the plant.
or look worse

Where did this yellowing and dead leaves are normal stuff come from?
From the internets............their in week seven every grow cant be home runs some are triples

A healthy plant at harvest shouldn't look like that.
ehh, you dont want really green leaves at harves again it doesnt look exactly natural but plants will be plants.

I'm surprised so many think crispy fried leave like that is normal.
Their not "fried" deficient and fugly not fried. Its not from over feeding the plant.

Sign of the times I guess.
what can you do Burn one forget about it.

So many people fry their plants one way or another that it's now considered to be normal.
crazy fuckers cut your hair and get a job
 

Bushbaby11

Well-Known Member
No your not over feeding. You have been a little light on the nitrogen and mag, a few signs of a potassium deficiency as well. Natural progression of the plant at this stage, just keep doing wht your doing like the other guy said and ride it out




If you had a problem then just do a water change and get things back on track and in balance. You starved your plant for two days.



It would take longer than two days to do that, again little low on the mag imo then natural growth but thats debatable since so late in flower and your temps have a fall weather aspect to it.


Not cold stress from the temps at this stage late in flower, veg or early flower might of been getting a little bit cold. I think that the water temp is a bit low try to maintain it at 68-70 degrees for the average if it swings a bit. Happy roots happy fruits.
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Light on mag & nitrogen? It's had calmag from about week 3 in veg onwards till now, what would you suggest i do now then?
 

R Burns

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You don't need less nutes, you need more. Specifically, Nitrogen and Phosphorus. Getting late to be adding too much, so get it in there, but cautiously. Hydro may allow for some room here.
 

Bernie420

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Light on mag & nitrogen? It's had calmag from about week 3 in veg onwards till now, what would you suggest i do now then?
I wouldnt try and fix a nitrogen issue after week two of flower by adding any extra nitrogen. it gets nitrogen with the regular nutes from then on

epsom salt 1 tsp per gal get you about 250 ppms of mag.

I suggest you dont do anything other than stop using that active boost stuff
 

Thundercat

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Just ride it out, that simple at this point.

It looks underfed to me though, but underfed is better then overfed in my opinion. That 2 day flush definitely didn't help this issue, it starved the plant and made it use more nutrients from the leaves which is why they got worse now. Thankfully you are nearing the end. I would keep feeding your base nutes and the cal/mag at a low dose just to help keep it alive to the end, but not pump it full of nutes and hurt it more.
 

323cheezy

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Look out for bud rot . Not saying it is but the symptoms are very similar too cal mag deficiency and the tips can get burnt looking .
I swear this yellow leave thing happens daily on this site ....
 

Bushbaby11

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I wouldnt try and fix a nitrogen issue after week two of flower by adding any extra nitrogen. it gets nitrogen with the regular nutes from then on

epsom salt 1 tsp per gal get you about 250 ppms of mag.

I suggest you dont do anything other than stop using that active boost stuff
Look out for bud rot . Not saying it is but the symptoms are very similar too cal mag deficiency and the tips can get burnt looking .
I swear this yellow leave thing happens daily on this site ....
The yellowing of leaves isn't a major worry as it's in week 8 now so should be doing it anyway, only a 9/10 week strain
 
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