Weak weed every time?

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sourdieselyumyum

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Ive been growing for several years now and every time I harvest I get decent yields but the smoke quality potency wise is ok/mediocre. Ive grown several different strains and I don't believe its the genetics like some people say is a major factor. I usually chop around day 67-70 so I think im letting the mature and ripen. Then I hang dry for around 5-7 days at 60% humidity 65-72 degrees. I don't cure my bud which I've heard only effects the smoothness and flavor of the smoke but I've heard other people say it affects potency. Im basically trying to figure out what is causing my weed to not have that fire smoke quality and fix it. Everything else is there people say it looks and smells like fire just not that strong long last high. Id appreciate any help or ideas on what I can do to make it better smoke
 
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DonnyTinyHands

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What you using for light??? Are they mature when you chop them? By looking at them?? Or you just feel like that's plenty of days so they getting cut? You don't tell us what strains so who knows if that's long enough.

Is either not enough light intensity, you have a shockingly shit spectrum, your cutting too early, or you got shit genetics.
 
R Burns

R Burns

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So, it's gotta be genetics. But maybe ur doing something wrong. Whats ur set up like? What kinda nutes? Temps could play a role. And what are u growing? Not curing could be part of it. Especially if u are comparing yours to cured bud.
 
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SSHZ

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If grown properly, this is a matter of genetics. 90% of the breeders are producing trash these days, with little clue what they are doing. I could count on 2 hands the only breeders I'd really consider are producing worth while stuff. With bad genetics, no matter your growing skill, it's only going to be so-so. With great genetics, even a crappy grow will produce something worth while. Choose carefully young skywalker.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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everything matters, what medium you're growing in, the environment of your grow area, the genetics you're working with, the lights, the quality of the water...
something in there is off, and your job is to figure out what it is.
the only thing you said that made me stop for a second is " I usually chop around day 67-70 so I think im letting the mature and ripen."...that's enough for many strains, but not all, and not all strains ripen the same in different environments. if you don't have one, get a dual 60/100 times jewelers loupe, or a small digital scope, and look at the trichs, don't guess based on a breeders estimate.
 
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sourdieselyumyum

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I’m using 1000 watt hps 3 gal coco in smart pots using jacks 321. Strains that I’ve ran. 24k gold critical kush blue gelato 41 blue dream sugar breath northern lights sour diesel gorilla bomb thc bomb power kush incredible bulk critical hog ak47 Pineapple Express strawberry eclair mozzarella alien og killer purps black dog blue fire blue og sour secret gorilla skittlz orange cinnamon swirl. They’re probably other I can’t think of off top of my head. I’ve looked at them with a led microscope that can get good images they look good before chop. Idk what it could be unless maybe the trichomes are cloudy and just don’t have much thc in them.
 
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SSHZ

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"everything matters, what medium you're growing in, the environment of your grow area, the genetics you're working with, the lights, the quality of the water."..

Actually, your right.......90% genetics and 10% everything else. As long as you provide everything the plants need, and keep temps in a reasonable range, it still comes down to genetics to get the kind of smoke you want.

Sour......you are growing some things known for not having a high resin content i.e. Pineapple Express, Incredible Bulk, etc. are not high THC strains. Stop buying European genetics and start buying U.S. stuff for better success, that's my first recommendation.
 
kingromano

kingromano

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sourdieselyumyum said:
Ive been growing for several years now and every time I harvest I get decent yields but the smoke quality potency wise is ok/mediocre. Ive grown several different strains and I don't believe its the genetics like some people say is a major factor. I usually chop around day 67-70 so I think im letting the mature and ripen. Then I hang dry for around 5-7 days at 60% humidity 65-72 degrees. I don't cure my bud which I've heard only effects the smoothness and flavor of the smoke but I've heard other people say it affects potency. Im basically trying to figure out what is causing my weed to not have that fire smoke quality and fix it. Everything else is there people say it looks and smells like fire just not that strong long last high. Id appreciate any help or ideas on what I can do to make it better smoke
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my friend
i had the same problem for years
bet sure to not feed too much
and yeah genetics are 1/3 of the job ... try to find some clone only genetics .. you can find gems in your own seed selection but .. elite cuts are a big step
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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i'm kind of old school, i'm running sour diesel from true north, green crack from blimburn, critical widow from true north, GG4 from blimburn, good shit from phoenix seeds, and critical peyote from royal queen. the newest thing i have is big bang from greenhouse seeds, haven't put one into flower yet, but the two i have in veg look very nice..
 
kingromano

kingromano

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sourdieselyumyum said:
did you ever figure out ur problem?
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yeah

bad strains, hay like weed. they can look fuckn resinous .. only the smoke test tell.

in hydro i was using too much fert .. high ec like 2.5 ms in bloom .. now i dont go over 1.4 .. even 1.2 in bloom

"flushing" i was making the plant yellow, thinking the N was related to fertilizer taste.
now i just feed them plain water but i dont look for the yellowing, the plant need to be green from start to end..
 
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sourdieselyumyum

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I feed with jacks 321 which is around 700-800 ppm so thats not too much I usually do feed water feed unless they look hungry then feed feed water. I feel like I gotta be doing something right my last harvest I pulled around 2.5-2.75 a light so don't think Im over fertilizing. Does curing make it way better?
 
kingromano

kingromano

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no i like to say that after 15 days of drying we have an idea of what is the product ..
curing imo will allow bacterias to convert the cholorophyl in sugar .. so yeah it improve the taste, but a cured schwag stay schwag
lol

i feel like the main problem could be the genetics .. do you have access to clones
 
NanoGadget

NanoGadget

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SSHZ said:
If grown properly, this is a matter of genetics. 90% of the breeders are producing trash these days, with little clue what they are doing. I could count on 2 hands the only breeders I'd really consider are producing worth while stuff. With bad genetics, no matter your growing skill, it's only going to be so-so. With great genetics, even a crappy grow will produce something worth while. Choose carefully young skywalker.
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Agreed. Spent the first decade or so that i was growing without access to truly great genetics and was nearly always disappointed. Once i got my hands on some keepers it was night and day. I've got a Urkle x Tahoe cross that ive been running (and breeding with) lately that is basically my unicorn strain.
 
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sourdieselyumyum

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kingromano said:
no i like to say that after 15 days of drying we have an idea of what is the product ..
curing imo will allow bacterias to convert the cholorophyl in sugar .. so yeah it improve the taste, but a cured schwag stay schwag
lol

i feel like the main problem could be the genetics .. do you have access to clones
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kingromano said:
no i like to say that after 15 days of drying we have an idea of what is the product ..
curing imo will allow bacterias to convert the cholorophyl in sugar .. so yeah it improve the taste, but a cured schwag stay schwag
lol

i feel like the main problem could be the genetics .. do you have access to clones
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