Weak weed every time?

DonnyTinyHands · Nov 22, 2019

I agree, seems like it would be pretty hard to have grown all those strains and had them all end up poo. And smells and looks fire but isn't strong over than many strains makes me wonder.. Do they seem weak to you? or just some people? Would those people have any motivation to tell you it's weak when it's totally decent?

70's natureboy · Nov 22, 2019

Just curious, how old is your light bulb?

Thundercat · Nov 22, 2019

Do you have any pictures of your last harvest right before cutting it? Seriously one of the biggest things I've seen people do for years is harvest plants to early. Even experienced growers do it at times. I know how hard it is, I have chopped early when I was a newer grower. At first I listened to all the "chop early for a speedy high" thing. Then after running a few hundred plants of a variety of strains I learned that letting plants FULLY mature makes a HUGE difference in the smoke quality and you get much higher.

Do you count your 65-70 days from when you flip the lights, or from when the plants begin to actually flower?

Renfro · Nov 22, 2019

Any pics of the flower?

What is your feed regimen?

Sounds to me like you have too much phosphorous and not enough potassium.

Innob · Nov 22, 2019

Let them run a bit longer. Try maybe 80-90.
I've noticed plants cut early have a short quick high.

Smoknkush_420 · Nov 22, 2019

sourdieselyumyum said:
what are some strains and breeders you guys recommend? Ive got some querkle and chernobyl from tga that I just threw in flower are they any good?

Brothers Grimm, G13 Labs, Humbolt Seed co. are some real good stuff. no let downs there

sourdieselyumyum · Nov 22, 2019

70's natureboy said:
Just curious, how old is your light bulb?

I swap every 6 months I use plantmax hps they are pretty cheap about 26$ a bulb just a bright as eye hortilux

sourdieselyumyum · Nov 22, 2019

Thundercat said:
Do you have any pictures of your last harvest right before cutting it? Seriously one of the biggest things I've seen people do for years is harvest plants to early. Even experienced growers do it at times. I know how hard it is, I have chopped early when I was a newer grower. At first I listened to all the "chop early for a speedy high" thing. Then after running a few hundred plants of a variety of strains I learned that letting plants FULLY mature makes a HUGE difference in the smoke quality and you get much higher.

Do you count your 65-70 days from when you flip the lights, or from when the plants begin to actually flower?

A soon as I flip to 12/12 these photos aren’t before chop probably like 4 weeks before maybe

Renfro · Nov 22, 2019

Holy shit, ease up on the stakes. Get some trellis.

TintEastwood · Nov 22, 2019

sourdieselyumyum said:
I feed with jacks 321 which is around 700-800 ppm so thats not too much I usually do feed water feed unless they look hungry then feed feed water. I feel like I gotta be doing something right my last harvest I pulled around 2.5-2.75 a light so don't think Im over fertilizing. Does curing make it way better?

"feed water feed" - That's a red flag.
Check this read on coco feedings. My grows improved once I got to know my coco. :peace:

Also using Jacks 321-ish.

Watering Coco - How to Water Cannabis Plants in Coco Coir - Coco For Cannabis

Coco Watering Guide. How to water cannabis in coco for maximum growth. Includes guidelines for coco watering frequency and a coco watering schedule.

www.cocoforcannabis.com

I need to re-read this one myself.

Understanding Osmosis and EC - Coco For Cannabis - Science

Learn how EC, PPM & TDS affect plants. Understand osmosis (how the plant absorbs water) and why it is critical to measure EC/PPM when you fertigate.

www.cocoforcannabis.com

Thundercat · Nov 22, 2019

sourdieselyumyum said:
A soon as I flip to 12/12 these photos aren’t before chop probably like 4 weeks before maybe

Well obviously there are a few little issues here and there, but they look very happy and healthy overall. Definitely an insane amount of stakes lol, but whatever works for you.

Without seeing the plants when you actually would harvest them, its tough to make a definite call on if you might be cutting early. I am a strong advocate for letting plants fully mature. I havn't found many plants that were REALLY done in 65 days from 12/12 flip, I also mostly grow hybrids, and not strictly indica dom plants.

How long do you veg them for before you flip them? Are they clones or seed plants? How long do your plants usually take to transition and actually begin to flower?

Richard Noggin · Nov 22, 2019

DonnyTinyHands said:
What you using for light??? Are they mature when you chop them? By looking at them?? Or you just feel like that's plenty of days so they getting cut? You don't tell us what strains so who knows if that's long enough.

Is either not enough light intensity, you have a shockingly shit spectrum, your cutting too early, or you got shit genetics.

First thing i thought of was light.

sourdieselyumyum · Nov 22, 2019

sourdieselyumyum said:
A soon as I flip to 12/12 these photos aren’t before chop probably like 4 weeks before maybe

I have to be able to move them around or I would for sure

waterproof808 · Nov 22, 2019

Using that many stakes is affecting your light but you clearly know how to grow a plant and keep it healthy.
I'm still leaning towards it being due to your genetic choices. A lot of what you listed just sounds like generic euro company strains.

Roger A. Shrubber · Nov 22, 2019

have you been sharing it with other people? have any of them said anything about it being weak? maybe it's just you, having high expectations? could be talking yourself out of being as high as you could be, worrying over details?.....no one is more critical of my work than i am.

Roger A. Shrubber · Nov 22, 2019

i just noticed that feed water feed thing...not a good idea in coco. drop your feed by around 100 ppm, water them at least every other day, and get at least 20% run off each time....coco is the perfect medium for drain to waste, not so great for much else...

Renfro · Nov 22, 2019

sourdieselyumyum said:
I swap every 6 months I use plantmax hps they are pretty cheap about 26$ a bulb just a bright as eye hortilux

They may be just as bright but the spectrum suffers. that said I would recommend using cheap bulbs if thats the difference between replacing them often.

sourdieselyumyum · Nov 22, 2019

Roger A. Shrubber said:
have you been sharing it with other people? have any of them said anything about it being weak? maybe it's just you, having high expectations? could be talking yourself out of being as high as you could be, worrying over details?.....no one is more critical of my work than i am.

My friends smoke says it’s got a short high I believe

Thundercat · Nov 22, 2019

sourdieselyumyum said:
My friends smoke says it’s got a short high I believe

Just sounds like it was harvested early to me.

sourdieselyumyum · Nov 22, 2019

Thundercat said:
Just sounds like it was harvested early to me.

I’ll take some close of pics of the trichomes with my scope whenever the buds are done drying and see what u guys think. I honestly don’t think I’m the best at ready trichomes.

Weak weed every time?

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