Bridgelux led selection

[OklahomaSmoke]

FIirst off, I'd like to thank all the people who contribute to this board. So much great info that I can hopefully add to with my build and grows. I'm getting into growing since I got a medical card. I plan on producing mainly to make into bubble hash.
For my light, I was leaning toward going with the Samsung f series double row but they are $37 per if I buy more than 10. My spaces will be 4x4x7 & 2x4x7. I plan to power the strips to equal 50watts sq ft. The plan was to buy 12 double rows so I could put 8 in the 4x4 and 4 in the 2x4. That was before I saw a deal for the bXEB-L1120Z-30E4000-C-A3
They are about 1/5 the price. How many of these should I get to be equal to the double strips? Or stick with samsung...i don't care about a couple extra efficiency gains, going from hps to led is savings enough. I'm thinking I'll get 3 hlg-480h-1400a. I just don't know if I'm missing something.
Also, any tent and fan and filter setups recommendations are welcome.
Thank you all

 

[inDC4now]

Welcome to Roll It Up @OklahomaSmoke

Lots of threads here to get you thinking like
https://www.rollitup.org/search/100938/?q=strips&t=post&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=66&c[title_only]=1&o=relevance
and
https://www.rollitup.org/t/led-strip-opinions-pls.980643/
and
https://www.rollitup.org/t/new-1000w-led-strip-project.959502/

Good luck!

 

[OklahomaSmoke]

Thank you inDC4now! I have been looking and drawing up some different setups. Vero29 cob, f series strips, eb gen 3 strips. Just can't make up my mind. I saw someone wrote just buy something(leds) and get started. I have a hard time with that... I want the best as long as it's not outrageously expensive. I don't see how I can go wrong with 8 double row f series on 2 hlg480's.

 

[inDC4now]

@OklahomaSmoke Have you seen the DIY articles over on ledgardener.com

Like this article for example:
https://ledgardener.com/diy-led-strip-build-designs-samsung-bridgelux/

 

[OklahomaSmoke]

Yes, I have. Very informative. I have watched his YouTube, greengene, and growmau5. If greengenes strips werent so expensive(maybe they arent when you factor efficiency?) Id like to try those out. One concern I did have was a lot of the information was published in 2018, so if new products have come out, then they would not have been covered. I will use that as a reference when wiring and calculating what driver to use. I'm still not super proficient with the electrical but I can follow step by step instructions. Thanks for taking the time to reply and not telling me to just search the forums!(I have)

 

[OklahomaSmoke]

Thanks for your input to the board coreywebster! I've read quite a few threads of yours

 

[coreywebster]

Thanks for your input to the board coreywebster! I've read quite a few threads of yours

People give me far too much credit, I just like typing ! Glad you found some of it helpful though.
Sounds like you will have a couple of cracking lights pretty soon. Look forward to seeing them.

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Blux eb gen3 are untouchable in performance (on paper) vs cost in the industry atm

 

[Chip Green]

There is still great value to be had in the previous generations of the BXEB emitters as well.
I continue to reap the benefits of the original Gen1 collections I use.
Going on three years of perpetual use, have yet to have a single module fail.
Including physical damage from the occasional mishap.
Long live BXEB

 

[OklahomaSmoke]

So I have decided the eb strip are my pick however I'm having a hard time finding the right driver. I would like to run 2 "racks" each one containing 6 of the 1120mm eb strips(gen 2 unless somebody thinks the gen 3 slim offers any significant advantages over the gen 2's $8.40 vs $14) and a driver that runs each 6 strips at or near 1400mA. I am seriously considering this

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If my understanding is correct, this would run 6 strips at 1275mA(close enough to max) 7.65A/6 strips. The forward voltage is in the range of the strips ~39v. Does this setup off any safety benefits over say using one hlg 600 for 12 strips? Cause that's one benefit of this setup, as well as being able to have at different heights. Thanks again for all the help!

 

[Boatguy]

So I have decided the eb strip are my pick however I'm having a hard time finding the right driver. I would like to run 2 "racks" each one containing 6 of the 1120mm eb strips(gen 2 unless somebody thinks the gen 3 slim offers any significant advantages over the gen 2's $8.40 vs $14) and a driver that runs each 6 strips at or near 1400mA. I am seriously considering this

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Order today, ships today. HLG-320H-42A – 7.65A 38 ~ 45V Constant Current, Voltage LED Driver AC DC Converter Topology 1 Output from MEAN WELL USA Inc.. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics.

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If my understanding is correct, this would run 6 strips at 1275mA(close enough to max) 7.65A/6 strips. The forward voltage is in the range of the strips ~39v. Does this setup off any safety benefits over say using one hlg 600 for 12 strips? Cause that's one benefit of this setup, as well as being able to have at different heights. Thanks again for all the help!

Go with the b type driver. Being able to dim the fixture without monkeying with the driver is a nice option.

 

[OklahomaSmoke]

So, do I attach a controller to it to be able to dim and mimic sunrise/sunset? I really didn't want to put a pot. on there. Thanks for your input Boatguy!

 

[OklahomaSmoke]

Also, other than a type b, that one would work like I said? And get about 640 total watts?

 

[OklahomaSmoke]

Man, a ~600w led and driver for less than $400. As long as I can keep it safe, that is an incredible deal for a high ppfd, low heat, low power light.

 

[Boatguy]

So, do I attach a controller to it to be able to dim and mimic sunrise/sunset? I really didn't want to put a pot. on there. Thanks for your input Boatguy!

Adding a pot is really easy. If you arent comfortable soldering, a small female spade connector slides right over the prongs.

 

[Boatguy]

I mainly dim mine when im starting new plants. My light is way oversized for my space so i have never turned it up very high.
In my 2x2 I keep it under 200w. If i ever go bigger it will turn up to 600. Dimming is nice if you are working in there as well.
I used this one https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/72-P16NP-100K

 

[TintEastwood]

Adding a pot is really easy. If you arent comfortable soldering, a small female spade connector slides right over the prongs.

Combined with the Pot, do these work with the B driver and strips? thx

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[Boatguy]

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Combined with the Pot, do these work with the B driver and strips? thx

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Yes. Just put it on the supply/ac side of the driver.

 

[Boatguy]

Also, other than a type b, that one would work like I said? And get about 640 total watts?

Cant help you there as i havent looked at the build. As long as the voltage and amperage match your target you should be good.
I have always used cc drivers, and have no experience with cv.
Hopefully someone else will chime in here.

 

[1212ham]

So I have decided the eb strip are my pick however I'm having a hard time finding the right driver. I would like to run 2 "racks" each one containing 6 of the 1120mm eb strips(gen 2 unless somebody thinks the gen 3 slim offers any significant advantages over the gen 2's $8.40 vs $14) and a driver that runs each 6 strips at or near 1400mA. I am seriously considering this

HLG-320H-42A MEAN WELL USA Inc. | Power Supplies - External/Internal (Off-Board) | DigiKey

Order today, ships today. HLG-320H-42A – 7.65A 38 ~ 45V Constant Current, Voltage LED Driver AC DC Converter Topology 1 Output from MEAN WELL USA Inc.. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics.

www.digikey.com

If my understanding is correct, this would run 6 strips at 1275mA(close enough to max) 7.65A/6 strips. The forward voltage is in the range of the strips ~39v. Does this setup off any safety benefits over say using one hlg 600 for 12 strips? Cause that's one benefit of this setup, as well as being able to have at different heights. Thanks again for all the help!

The strips rated current is 700ma, 1400ma max. I suggest running them softer by using 7-8 strips per 320w driver.
I'd go with the HLG-320-42AB, on-board voltage and current limits plus the external 3-in-1 dimming capability.
Gen-3 has around 6-8 % higher efficacy than Gen-2.

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