NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

I was hoping to get something very detailed up about how I do it tonight but I wont probably for a another day or two .

 

[IrieRoots]

I ran coco and nectar years ago with RO and I just couldn't keep the girls happy. Granted I was new to the line & RO, I've since learned where I could have improved and now getting an even deeper look into it with some of your methods......I just love all things grow!!

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

I keep veg simple with 4-6 bottles max then go bonkers in flower

 

[IrieRoots]

I was hoping to get something very detailed up about how I do it tonight but I wont probably for a another day or two .

Thats cool

 

[IrieRoots]

What part of east coast are you in? If you don't mind me asking.........its just a bunch of us here are east coasters.

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

I ran coco and nectar years ago with RO and I just couldn't keep the girls happy. Granted I was new to the line & RO, I've since learned where I could have improved and now getting an even deeper look into it with some of your methods......I just love all things grow!!

I heard that me to and I love that your interested
. I would love to help everyone I can and I know there are lots of people that can help me to but I tend to be very bull headed at times in my ways .

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

I am In PA. Not to far from Harrisburg. I recognize A guy here already . He got very out of line with me at the hydro shop because he thinks he the worlds greatest nectar grower but actually needs help badly with the line him self and has no business helping people with the line .The good news is him and his wife where caught stealing from the shop and now I dont have to deal with him anymore. Now there going to a different store in York for now but not for long if they keep switching price tags . (caught again buddy and wife)

 

[IrieRoots]

I am In PA. Not to far from Harrisburg. I recognize A guy here already . He got very out of line with me at the hydro shop because he thinks he the worlds greatest nectar grower but actually needs help badly with the line him self and has no business helping people with the line .The good news is him and his wife where caught stealing from the shop and now I dont have to deal with him anymore. Now there going to a different store in York for now but not for long if they keep switching price tags . (caught again buddy and wife)

I try to be non confrontational and stay in my lane. I do pretty good with what I know & experience with nectar and living soil and like to give any help I can, there is so many different ways of doing things and try to stay open minded. I too can get stubborn & bull headed but I tend to learn more when I get humble. Look forward to anything you have to share, I'm sure it will help all of us.

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

lol I dont think they will have much to say on here. I will struggle with being humble with the unhumble thieves that work together to distract and steel nftg products my friends hydro shops. Thats the last I have to say about here at this thread.

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

I ran coco and nectar years ago with RO and I just couldn't keep the girls happy. Granted I was new to the line & RO, I've since learned where I could have improved and now getting an even deeper look into it with some of your methods......I just love all things grow!!

Well I hope you will consider giving pure coco a try again I know you have the skills to make it work. If you dont want to do daily feedings Just got to get over the fears of the big numbers and keep the foot on the gas with different amounts of DD-MM-GM- HH and BK until they pray. I had no problems with RO. I know guys say they do but I never did I just got tired of having to buy it. I never had any problems from Cana or any coco I have tried for that matter. I now run a mix of on part Cana to one part Nector coco to my flowering plants just for a little cost saveings.

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

I just found this pic of my mom tent when I was on a pheno hunt befor I cut them all down. Here I have 8 strains and 13 different phenotypes all as happy as moms need to be needing 1700-2400 ppms every 48 under 60w of light. If I wanted to make them reach to the sky grow like nuts I would be looking at 1800 -2600 ppms every 48 in coco. Just to be clear the plants with the clawing are just hungry If I where to flush them now in coco or soil I would be in trouble. If I caught I made the mistake right away I would need to feed around 3000 ppms for 2 days in a row to bring them back as long as there was no cellular damage to folige yet form the untimely and unnecessary flush . If you damaged cells well its gona take lots of smaller feedings for a week or more to get caught back up. The great thing about coco is once you get the plants praying they start responding to feedings in about 20-30 mins after 45 mins or so you know if you did write or wrong to the plants. Moms are a little trickier because they should not be praying in the first place.View attachment DSC02096.JPG

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

Great example hereI THINK THIS IS MY GORILLA GLUE # 4 FORM THE EARLY DAYS OF MY NECTOR EXSPERENCE . I SENT THESE PICTURES OF TO SOMEONE I HAD NO DOUBT I THOUGHT COULD HELP ME in coco . I TOLD HIM I WAS FEEDING THE PLAT AT 1200 PPMS. the slurry was high but I dont remember how high The response was flush asap and cut back to 700 ppms or so. Well I lost My GG#4 moms a few day later and the rest of my plants slowly after that because it took me a year to find out that was all wrong and It set me back a year in learning. I was able to acquire anther GG some time later and found its just another genetic that needs to eat huge at my nectar dinner table it loves higher slurry numbers and needs tons of DD to do what it is supposed to do.

 

[IrieRoots]

Great example hereI THINK THIS IS MY GORILLA GLUE # 4 FORM THE EARLY DAYS OF MY NECTOR EXSPERENCE . I SENT THESE PICTURES OF TO SOMEONE I HAD NO DOUBT I THOUGHT COULD HELP ME in coco . I TOLD HIM I WAS FEEDING THE PLAT AT 1200 PPMS. the slurry was high but I dont remember how high The response was flush asap and cut back to 700 ppms or so. Well I lost My GG#4 moms a few day later and the rest of my plants slowly after that because it took me a year to find out that was all wrong and It set me back a year in learning. I was able to acquire anther GG some time later and found its just another genetic that needs to eat huge at my nectar dinner table it loves higher slurry numbers and needs tons of DD to do what it is supposed to do.

I have a gg4 cross that I learned nectar on and still have. It wasn't till I started upping feeds and adding more DD that I started to learn. Soon as flower would kick in I had to play catchup from under feeding. I'm sure I will run coco again, I'm constantly mixing things up......I'm definitely more confident now that I know how to work the line but I won't ever go back to RO if I can help it, it's so wasteful and I got pretty good water after it goes through a kdf/catalytic boogieblue filter so I don't need the RO.

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

My Fault I just relized this whole time you where saying Ro I was thinking Distilled for some reason. I even wrote Ro when thinking distilled .
I have never used Ro water just distilled . Yes RO is very wasteful

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

you should just build your own kdf/ catalytic filter like I have. My filter is probably way overkill with 16 stages but I know it works for years with a backflush every 6 months of about 50 gallons

 

[IrieRoots]

you should just build your own kdf/ catalytic filter like I have. My filter is probably way overkill with 16 stages but I know it works for years with a backflush every 6 months of about 50 gallons

I have looked into it, just one of those things Thats not a huge investment and only replace once a year and prolly could go longer With backflushes. I have pre & post whole house filters before it hits the boogie, then I will double the boogie filters With new and last season's. What do you put your kdf and catalytic carbon in to diy it?

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

Seems dead in here all the sudden Irie and your the only guy to talk to me yet . Is it the days of the week Or an I not being well received. lol.
If people dont like me now just wait until I post my controlled experiment's.

 

[SmokeyMcscrogin]

I have looked into it, just one of those things Thats not a huge investment and only replace once a year and prolly could go longer With backflushes. I have pre & post whole house filters before it hits the boogie, then I will double the boogie filters With new and last season's. What do you put your kdf and catalytic carbon in to diy it?

in a nut shell 5 gallon buckets with Gama lids all linked together with bulkheads Still trying to decide if I should unveil much of its workings yet. This is a pic I took of it last night. The black bucket is in the wrong order it goes under the top bucket and I only need it when I filter tap and creek water it contains ionic glass, kdf 85, and 55 ,along with Katalox Light and one other media. It needs a back flush about every 6 months I think still figuring that part out. For filtering condensate and rain water I have a blue bucket that gose in the same spot with 70 micron ss filter screan ionic glass and catalytic carbon. From there it goes through more glass until it gets to the magic part of my filter where it is filtered down to individual Ho2 molecules then the dynes can be reduced . Its defiantly something I will probably share more of but not yet. The tap and creek water bucket still needs long term testing . Bty you can make any high contamination water source potable so it is it could save life in a pinch. I actually built it for me and my plants and I do drink water from it.

 

[IrieRoots]

Seems dead in here all the sudden Irie and your the only guy to talk to me yet . Is it the days of the week Or an I not being well received. lol.
If people dont like me now just wait until I post my controlled experiment's.

Its been pretty slow in here over the last month or so. It usually fluctuates. I guess everyone has figured it all out....LOL....I try to stay active because it helps me from becoming complacent with my grow. And usually when I'm troubleshooting mine or other members scenarios on here I always learn and get different perspectives. I've gotten pretty good at fixing issues fairly quick because of it, now I'm trying to focus on what works to avoid any issues before they pop up. The way I look at it, once you flip healthy plants the grading scale begins, week 1 is an A++ and to keep that high grade, each week must be with sustained healthy progressive flowering!! Any issue whether large or small will diminish the grade. So for example if I'm fighting deficiency or lockout and need to correct, that lost week drops to an A+, if an additional week is needed now I'm at an A and so on. If plants aren't upright and praying through each weekly stage, then full potential won't be hit. This is of course a high standard and tough to adhere to in hobby homegrows but in my experience its simply fact. My problem is I don't keep genetics around long enough to learn their ins & outs, but having the high standard as goal and constantly trying to learn more about the plant responses, feed methods, etc the closer I come to hitting those high grades!!

 

[IrieRoots]

in a nut shell 5 gallon buckets with Gama lids all linked together with bulkheads Still trying to decide if I should unveil much of its workings yet. This is a pic I took of it last night. The black bucket is in the wrong order it goes under the top bucket and I only need it when I filter tap and creek water it contains ionic glass, kdf 85, and 55 ,along with Katalox Light and one other media. It needs a back flush about every 6 months I think still figuring that part out. For filtering condensate and rain water I have a blue bucket that gose in the same spot with 70 micron ss filter screan ionic glass and catalytic carbon. From there it goes through more glass until it gets to the magic part of my filter where it is filtered down to individual Ho2 molecules then the dynes can be reduced . Its defiantly something I will probably share more of but not yet. The tap and creek water bucket still needs long term testing . Bty you can make any high contamination water source potable so it is it could save life in a pinch. I actually built it for me and my plants and I do drink water from it.

That is pretty Damn cool......so is the bottom a catch bucket and you filter approx 5 gallons at a time? Or is there piping to another holding tank to store the filtered water?