Aussie Growers Thread

TheGreenPriest

TheGreenPriest

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DustyDuke said:
If your still trying to get good I’ve got no chance lol. Your buds quality
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Cheers.

As they say with this plant you never stop learning. I don't know nearly as much as I should considering how long I've been at it.
I learned a lot in the first 5yrs in the Overgrow.com days but then I coasted for the last 15yrs or so on what I knew. lol. That's not totally true but I stayed away from forums for a very long time after the Overgrow bust, that shit tripped a lot of us out who had grow journals with photos and shit and/or had ordered from Heaven's Stairway. Lots of very paranoid stoners after that. :D

I'm just trying to improve my gear. But it looks like organics, as keen as I am on trying them, are going to have to wait another run or two as the boss laid down the law on me and told me I wasn't just tossing out nearly full bottles of nutes and additives.

Conversation went like this:
me: I'm thinking of moving over to organics
her: oh yeah?
me: yeah details blah blah blah and it'll cost me this
her: say what MFer? didnt we just buy a whole new set of nutes and shit?
me: yeah
her: and you're just gonna toss those out?!
me: well, yeah...
her: and how much have you spent on seed recently?
me: okay, I concede. Fuck you, love you.

So, yeah, it'll have to wait a round or two, the organics.
Or I might run bottled organics on a couple plants and see how it goes.
 
DustyDuke

DustyDuke

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TheGreenPriest said:
Cheers.

As they say with this plant you never stop learning. I don't know nearly as much as I should considering how long I've been at it.
I learned a lot in the first 5yrs in the Overgrow.com days but then I coasted for the last 15yrs or so on what I knew. lol. That's not totally true but I stayed away from forums for a very long time after the Overgrow bust, that shit tripped a lot of us out who had grow journals with photos and shit and/or had ordered from Heaven's Stairway. Lots of very paranoid stoners after that. :D

I'm just trying to improve my gear. But it looks like organics, as keen as I am on trying them, are going to have to wait another run or two as the boss laid down the law on me and told me I wasn't just tossing out nearly full bottles of nutes and additives.

Conversation went like this:
me: I'm thinking of moving over to organics
her: oh yeah?
me: yeah details blah blah blah and it'll cost me this
her: say what MFer? didnt we just buy a whole new set of nutes and shit?
me: yeah
her: and you're just gonna toss those out?!
me: well, yeah...
her: and how much have you spent on seed recently?
me: okay, I concede. Fuck you, love you.

So, yeah, it'll have to wait a round or two, the organics.
Or I might run bottled organics on a couple plants and see how it goes.
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Yeah no point wasting stuff but I get the itchy fingers when you try something new

That would of been stressful all that shit back in the day maybe I should ease off a bit lol
 
reza92

reza92

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TheGreenPriest said:
Cheers.

As they say with this plant you never stop learning. I don't know nearly as much as I should considering how long I've been at it.
I learned a lot in the first 5yrs in the Overgrow.com days but then I coasted for the last 15yrs or so on what I knew. lol. That's not totally true but I stayed away from forums for a very long time after the Overgrow bust, that shit tripped a lot of us out who had grow journals with photos and shit and/or had ordered from Heaven's Stairway. Lots of very paranoid stoners after that. :D

I'm just trying to improve my gear. But it looks like organics, as keen as I am on trying them, are going to have to wait another run or two as the boss laid down the law on me and told me I wasn't just tossing out nearly full bottles of nutes and additives.

Conversation went like this:
me: I'm thinking of moving over to organics
her: oh yeah?
me: yeah details blah blah blah and it'll cost me this
her: say what MFer? didnt we just buy a whole new set of nutes and shit?
me: yeah
her: and you're just gonna toss those out?!
me: well, yeah...
her: and how much have you spent on seed recently?
me: okay, I concede. Fuck you, love you.

So, yeah, it'll have to wait a round or two, the organics.
Or I might run bottled organics on a couple plants and see how it goes.
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While i don’t have a chain and ball I have this sometimes as well, just can’t justify throwing out something that I’ve paid good money for to replace it with something that might be better. Like my nutrients aren’t the best but i get some decent quality from them and they’ve effectively paid for themselves a few times over so I’ll just buy extra additives to improve my base like kelp, myco etc
 
bursto

bursto

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ok here;s my 2 cents worth,

organics is great in theory, as it organic and better to consume, yes,
but with organics there is no actual way to control the ratio of N P K, during flower so
i know a few pages ago i was craping on about organics, being easy n stuff, but i still need and use bottle nutes during grow/flower
for that reason
 
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Saffasteve

Saffasteve

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TheGreenPriest said:
Thanks for the heads up.




I'm not approaching this from a point of knowledge. I'm just freshly sticking my dick in the dirt... lol... so I am open to any and all corrective advice I can get. I know that container size is a major issue but I have seen some decent results in 3gal, keeping the plants relatively small in a SOG like set-up.

It may very well be what I want to achieve can't be achieved. I may end up going the bottled organic route or run one more with synthetics (I have nearly full 5L bottles ffs lol) in a flood and drain to see if I can't dial it in much better with easier watering.

I am kinda bouncing ideas of the walls in my head... I'm keen to try organics but I may start a little slower.

I agree with you and that properly, well done synthetics can be quite good as well. I am just looking for that next level of smell, taste, etc.
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Personally I think a hybrid method of a few targeted applications of salts to an organic system can give really good results in both yield and quality and it's a very efficient way of giving extra nutrients when needed.
Different growing systems, approaches and expectations are going to suit different methods moreso than others, it's just a matter of finding what suits the grower the best and that will give the best results.
 
weed-whacker

weed-whacker

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Saffasteve said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big supporter and practitioner of organic methodologies both in my black market gardens and my real world occupation in agriculture. I do however see some major flaws in the way organics is practiced by many weed growers, the major one is the expectation that a pot smaller than 30 gallons can sustain a big enough microbial bio mass to fire an organic system effectively.
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Surely we can make our own soils cheaper?

I mean at the prices from the links earlier 30 gallons is insane

Would this be a 1 time purchase?
As in mulch and clover and keep using?

Thanks
 
reza92

reza92

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Saffasteve said:
Personally I think a hybrid method of a few targeted applications of salts to an organic system can give really good results in both yield and quality and it's a very efficient way of giving extra nutrients when needed.
Different growing systems, approaches and expectations are going to suit different methods moreso than others, it's just a matter of finding what suits the grower the best and that will give the best results.
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TheGreenPriest

TheGreenPriest

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weed-whacker said:
Surely we can make our own soils cheaper?

I mean at the prices from the links earlier 30 gallons is insane

Would this be a 1 time purchase?
As in mulch and clover and keep using?

Thanks
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You can def make them cheaper.

That's the idea, that you keep using it over and over recharging it with amendments etc as needed.
Frankly, it's hard to wrap my head around a bit.\
Bottles are just so fucking easy. 2ml/L... this I understand lol....
 
DustyDuke

DustyDuke

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weed-whacker said:
Surely we can make our own soils cheaper?

I mean at the prices from the links earlier 30 gallons is insane

Would this be a 1 time purchase?
As in mulch and clover and keep using?

Thanks
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I make mine it I think I’ve posted my recipe before I basically have 1.5 metres brewing all the time. I also have 2 metres of compost I’ve got breaking down. I basically wrap it in blue tarps to cook it. Being padantic about wrapping it back up is key so bugs don’t get in there. I realise it’s a lot but I have a garden I use it on. Cost me about $400 a metre but if those bags you can buy are $50 each I figure there’s 100 bags for the price of 8. Just a little saving
 
bursto

bursto

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weed-whacker said:
Surely we can make our own soils cheaper?

I mean at the prices from the links earlier 30 gallons is insane

Would this be a 1 time purchase?
As in mulch and clover and keep using?

Thanks
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i have been wondering about this alot
i live in the aussie bush, as i left city life 20 or so years ago
i also have some good soils, but mostly gravel, n clay at my place
so,,, getting soil to grow weed it is hard where im at.

so for years i been buying coco , n perlite, blood n bone mushroom compost and other stuff to make my own activated soil
first i bought a compost tumbler, and mixed those ingredients with mainly sheep shit, or cow

then, now ive moved onto water cubes, which i chuck all my old coco mix into, over winter

i let the water cube, fill u with rain water in winter, (it has the top cut off) then after a few pour downs open the tap to allow a flush in the cube. (like before it to mushy and stanky)
oh and i forgot
i recharge the old coco with some blood n bone, as i mix it into the cube
then after winter turns to summer
i make sure the soil stays moist each really hot day
then its ready to go again


I've tryed making it fresh each time and its ok like that, but the old drained and the remixed stuff just has better drainage, and
results, (if you think about it the soil just out side in your vegie garden is something like 400 million years old)

its not fucked once you use coco, its just the beginning,

if you do a little flush for a while first
 
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