Paint floor waterproof? Grow cab build help

weed-whacker

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An ounce a week from that space sounds like a pretty tall order.

You reckon?

Way I see it is I’d have about 8 sq ft of flower space (50x80) + (50x50) /900=7.2

I’ve been wondering if I just do a seperate veg cab and then I’d do two shelves of flower in the cupboard each 4.4 sq ft so a total of almost 9 sq ft

An oz per sq ft is pretty standard and with sog it should go up

@natureboygrower what do u yield in that 2x4 footprint?
 

weed-whacker

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so ive decided to use a cage shelf in veg and keep the clones and bonsai mums down there with the vegging ladies above(this way clones wont get too much light and dont need an extra chamber) and Ive reduced the width of veg to about 20cm

the big white box on top is housing for the fan/filter and connects to the mdf ill use to seal the window so i can pump air right outside

the black box is my res( i was gonna sog but i decided to just keep it simple and use my blumat system which hasnt let me down so far) so will have 6 plants in flower ( scrog ) 2 in the top and 4 in the bottom flower chamber plus however many clones and veg plants ill need to feed the system

ducting out back

I use filter material for range hood things as they work great for a light trap(thats the rectangle shapes you see around)
will vent out of veg into upper flowrr chamber and plan to use a 70mm pvc out of that chamber and a full 150mm ducting from below to stop it sucking too much on the smaller/closer chamber

ok im over planning this

gonna go to bunnings and get my supplies on tuesday

stop me if u see something really wrong
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weed-whacker

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Ok obviously the veg is too small to feed that flower space might have to change the dimensions to balance it out

I’ll just do 30x50 for the veg and use wire shelves if I need to
The good thing about led is u can spread it out as needed
 

Mitchician

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Sorry don't be offended but I think you're kidding yourself about how much it will yield and you're making it all too convoluted.
It's only my opinion though and for all I know you could totally prove me wrong and I sincerely hope you do.
I feel like it's a bad idea to have all that water above your electricity though. I'd be paranoid about that.
 

natureboygrower

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You reckon?

Way I see it is I’d have about 8 sq ft of flower space (50x80) + (50x50) /900=7.2

I’ve been wondering if I just do a seperate veg cab and then I’d do two shelves of flower in the cupboard each 4.4 sq ft so a total of almost 9 sq ft

An oz per sq ft is pretty standard and with sog it should go up

@natureboygrower what do u yield in that 2x4 footprint?
I just measured my cab lengths, they are a little over 5', not 4'. Sorry, I dont have an exact number of what I yield, since I grow strictly for personal use, I have never weighed my harvests.
I can tell you I used to run 4 3gallon airpots in there but now I run 2 separate 15 gallon SIPS. With the sips growing style my yields have been much better. Id guess I'm between 6-8 oz a run. More than enough to keep me flush with buds. I have a lot of full/partial jars in my stash.
With the right genetics, proper training and veg times, i dont see why you couldnt smash 8oz a run.
 

weed-whacker

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Sorry don't be offended but I think you're kidding yourself about how much it will yield and you're making it all too convoluted.
It's only my opinion though and for all I know you could totally prove me wrong and I sincerely hope you do.
I feel like it's a bad idea to have all that water above your electricity though. I'd be paranoid about that.
Not offended at all, I posted on here to be challenged and hear dif opinions

I look forward to proving u wrong mate

I assume u grow with an hps?

Wat do u yield in ur cab?
 

Mitchician

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Oh mate I'm all over the place with my set up I change it more than I change my undies, it's hard to measure my yields because mine's perpetual like yours and I keep changing my light around like mid-bloom and shit lol.. and yes I used to bloom with my 250w hps in my cupboard, then set it up in my closet, then did a run with an old school 250w MH bulb, then made an LED last summer to replace the MH when it was too hot in there.

Now I've put the hps back in there because it's still cool enough for 1 more run before proper summer heat and I had a 'bright' idea to put my led in my old bloom space to have a pre-bloom area but it's not set up yet because I had to use that space for drying first..

Anyway what I'm saying is I don't actually have a clue how much you'll yield so don't put too much weight on what I said because I can't even keep track of my own numbers lol..

Here's a pic of my best run in my original cupboard set up with the 250 hps, it was one side of a half n half perpetual that had 6 clones with maybe a week of veg sharing about a cubic foot of bunnings potting mix with some dolomite lime and epsom salts and shit and getting fed pretty basic bottled stuff too, gave me just over 100g, a lot got too close to the bulb though so was kinda average quality in those spots. After the left half came out I couldn't fit the other tub back in there to do another run because I had to let all those tops flop over to get away from the light so I just chucked those okra babies in there to fill the hole... :hump:

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I think this pic is from my first run in that cupboard, Can't remember the weights of these plants but I might still have the pics of the dry weights if you really want me to dig them out, by memory I think the middle one was about 30g, the left about 25, and the right about 50, as you can see by the thermometer I didn't make a big fuss about lights off temps back then..

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I dunno now, after reminding myself of what I used to get out of that little thing with extremely limited experience and not much effort maybe it's not such a stretch to get an o a week from yours. Best of luck.
 

weed-whacker

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Oh mate I'm all over the place with my set up I change it more than I change my undies, it's hard to measure my yields because mine's perpetual like yours and I keep changing my light around like mid-bloom and shit lol.. and yes I used to bloom with my 250w hps in my cupboard, then set it up in my closet, then did a run with an old school 250w MH bulb, then made an LED last summer to replace the MH when it was too hot in there.

Now I've put the hps back in there because it's still cool enough for 1 more run before proper summer heat and I had a 'bright' idea to put my led in my old bloom space to have a pre-bloom area but it's not set up yet because I had to use that space for drying first..

Anyway what I'm saying is I don't actually have a clue how much you'll yield so don't put too much weight on what I said because I can't even keep track of my own numbers lol..

Here's a pic of my best run in my original cupboard set up with the 250 hps, it was one side of a half n half perpetual that had 6 clones with maybe a week of veg sharing about a cubic foot of bunnings potting mix with some dolomite lime and epsom salts and shit and getting fed pretty basic bottled stuff too, gave me just over 100g, a lot got too close to the bulb though so was kinda average quality in those spots. After the left half came out I couldn't fit the other tub back in there to do another run because I had to let all those tops flop over to get away from the light so I just chucked those okra babies in there to fill the hole... :hump:

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I think this pic is from my first run in that cupboard, Can't remember the weights of these plants but I might still have the pics of the dry weights if you really want me to dig them out, by memory I think the middle one was about 30g, the left about 25, and the right about 50, as you can see by the thermometer I didn't make a big fuss about lights off temps back then..

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I dunno now, after reminding myself of what I used to get out of that little thing with extremely limited experience and not much effort maybe it's not such a stretch to get an o a week from yours. Best of luck.

Doesn’t look like u are using anything to seal the doors from light leaks?
 

Mitchician

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Yeah I got that foam weather strip stuff stuck to the inside of the wall and the door squashes it when it's closed but it's shit because the backing tape it's stuck to is clear and when you close the door the light actually shines through the tape and you can see a thin bright yellow line when the door's closed but I don't really give a shit nobody's gonna see mine. I don't think enough light would have made it through the other way at lights off, didn't notice any problems anyway.
 

weed-whacker

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I just measured my cab lengths, they are a little over 5', not 4'. Sorry, I dont have an exact number of what I yield, since I grow strictly for personal use, I have never weighed my harvests.
I can tell you I used to run 4 3gallon airpots in there but now I run 2 separate 15 gallon SIPS. With the sips growing style my yields have been much better. Id guess I'm between 6-8 oz a run. More than enough to keep me flush with buds. I have a lot of full/partial jars in my stash.
With the right genetics, proper training and veg times, i dont see why you couldnt smash 8oz a run.
Ah I was looking for this info
So the 15 gallon sips...

U used to run 4 plants but now run 2 or u plant 2 plants per 15 gallon?

Cheers
 

natureboygrower

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Ah I was looking for this info
So the 15 gallon sips...

U used to run 4 plants but now run 2 or u plant 2 plants per 15 gallon?

Cheers
Ive run both.Two plants in one and one plant in one. Judging by how many jars I filled off my last run with one plant in one sip, yield is much better dedicating one sip to one plant. I use a water only soil recipe made up by some riu members. You can get some really nice numbers running this method with the proper plant training/tucking. I havent had the time to reach my setups full potential. If you wanted some variety, you could easily train two plants per sips, but the growth is explosive. You have to be on top of your game and either tuck into a screen, bend or pinch. Which I'm not atm resulting in a jungle in my cab. Glad i dont have humidity issues lol.
 

weed-whacker

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Ive run both.Two plants in one and one plant in one. Judging by how many jars I filled off my last run with one plant in one sip, yield is much better dedicating one sip to one plant. I use a water only soil recipe made up by some riu members. You can get some really nice numbers running this method with the proper plant training/tucking. I havent had the time to reach my setups full potential. If you wanted some variety, you could easily train two plants per sips, but the growth is explosive. You have to be on top of your game and either tuck into a screen, bend or pinch. Which I'm not atm resulting in a jungle in my cab. Glad i dont have humidity issues lol.
So helpful thanks mate

Yeah I’ve decided to do a seperate cab for veg and just have two shelves of flower in the wardrobe

Will be using the lowest profile largest container I can find and prolly drill a hole a few cm up from the base like a Hempy style
 
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