Aussie Growers Thread

fyjosh

Active Member
When handing over your phone or filming police:
Police do not have an automatic right to search you and your personal property such as a mobile phone.
Police ask to check your phones — they need your consent

"If you are pulled over with reasonable suspicion, i.e. you have smoke coming out of the back of your car, the police can use that as a reason to search."

Police (Unlawfully) Creating reasonable suspicion is like saying someone phoned in the 'dob in a dealer' hotline anonymously, or 'we saw you driving erratically'. Totally unprovable but grounds for detainment and/or search of vehicle and persons
 

TheGreenPriest

Well-Known Member
Anybody else using these Xiaomi smart gadgets in their grow?
Fairly high quality and useful little gadgets for cheap.

I am using 3 of the temp/humidity sensors (soon to add more) and the leak detector on the floor near my rez.
Works very well, love being able to check temps in multiple areas with my phone.
You can use up to 8 devices on each gateway.

You need the gateway to make it all work:
don't put this in your grow area though as it's prone to occasionally flash led lights and speak Chinese.

Temp/Humid sensors... about as big round as a 50cent piece.

Leak detector, if it detects leak it alerts on phone and gateway flashes alarm.

Other gadgets that work off the control hub are a motion sensor, door entry sensor and smart power sockets.
 

reza92

Well-Known Member
"If you are pulled over with reasonable suspicion, i.e. you have smoke coming out of the back of your car, the police can use that as a reason to search."

Police (Unlawfully) Creating reasonable suspicion is like saying someone phoned in the 'dob in a dealer' hotline anonymously, or 'we saw you driving erratically'. Totally unprovable but grounds for detainment and/or search of vehicle and persons
Can police require my passwords?
There is a legal mechanism for police in Australia to force the disclosure of an individual’s password, personal identification number and private encryption key to facilitate access a smartphone or computer during the investigation of a Commonwealth offence.
That mechanism is contained in section 3LA of the Crimes Act 1914 (Cth) (“the Act”), which provides that “a constable may apply to a magistrate for an order to provide any information or assistance that is reasonable and necessary” to allow them to access data stored on “a computer or data storage device.”
A “constable” is defined by section 3 of the Act as “a member or special member of the Australian Federal Police or a member of the police force or police service of a State or Territory”.
Police can apply to a magistrate for an “assistance order” requiring the owner or user of a computer or data storage device to provide such information they can establish a reasonable suspicion that the device holds or can enable access to evidential material relevant to a crime.
The subject of the order is not required to be suspected of any crime. He or she merely needs to be the owner of the device that police reasonably suspect holds information relating to an offence.
If the application is successful, the subject will be required to provide the password/s enabling police to gain access to the device/s, as well as any decryption information in order to make data accessible and intelligible to police.
Failure to comply with an assistance order is a criminal offence. When the law was first enacted, the maximum penalty was 6 months imprisonment. However, authorities have since raised the maximum penalty to 2 years behind bars.


Do I have to give an officer my passcode?
Under federal law, forcing an individual to disclose his or her password, personal identification number or private encryption keys to enable access to a smartphone or a computer requires a warrant.
Section 3LA of the Crimes Act 1914 (Cth) sets out that a constable may apply to a magistrate for an order requiring an individual provide them with access to their electronic device if it’s suspected to hold evidence of a crime. And the owner doesn’t have to be a suspect of the wrongdoing.
A constable is defined in section 3 of the Crimes Act as a member of the Australian federal police or any state or territory police force.
And it’s a crime not to comply with an assistance order. A person who doesn’t is liable to 5 years imprisonment and/or a fine of up to $63,000. However, if the assistance order is in relation to a serious crime or serious terrorism offence, 10 years behind bars applies, as well as a $126,000 fine


They both say essentially the same thing. Yes they can search your phone without a warrant in some situations. but you aren’t required to give them your password without a warrant under federal law.
 

DustyDuke

Well-Known Member
At the end of the day depends what you have on your phone wether it's worth the trouble
There's a big difference between a few greenhouse shots of plants and pics of you suffocating some poor cunt with a Kmart bag :dunce:
Your hardcore bro I haven’t graduated putting cats in a bag I need to level up
 

Lucky Luke

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"If you are pulled over with reasonable suspicion, i.e. you have smoke coming out of the back of your car, the police can use that as a reason to search."

Police (Unlawfully) Creating reasonable suspicion is like saying someone phoned in the 'dob in a dealer' hotline anonymously, or 'we saw you driving erratically'. Totally unprovable but grounds for detainment and/or search of vehicle and persons
my repy to u was phone related, not vehicle.
 

Lucky Luke

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Basic legal studies should be a mandatory class for year 9 and 10 students. Just basic stuff.

Friend of mine was staying at a house that got raided. They took the cash in her wallet despite her not being charged with anything. They wanted her phone which she was silly enough to give them but it was an iphone so they gave it straight back after asking her for the password and her refusing. Took her a week to get her cash back even though they had no right to take it. I told her to lodge a complaint about that but i dont think she ever did.
 

JimyTheCook

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Unless your directly involved in the house or the person of the person listed on the warrant they should have no grounds to search or seize money on you. At the same time if someones gettin raided an your there its just your bad luck, wrong place wrong time sorta deal the pigs always have a loop hole up there sleeves.. If its a random stop up the street an they asked for my phone i would tell em to piss off but at the same time an i knew there was nothin incriminating on there i would hand it over to save aby further follow ups from them becuase i was acting dodgey an tryna hide something
 

Lucky Luke

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Unless your directly involved in the house or the person of the person listed on the warrant they should have no grounds to search or seize money on you. At the same time if someones gettin raided an your there its just your bad luck, wrong place wrong time sorta deal the pigs always have a loop hole up there sleeves.. If its a random stop up the street an they asked for my phone i would tell em to piss off but at the same time an i knew there was nothin incriminating on there i would hand it over to save aby further follow ups from them becuase i was acting dodgey an tryna hide something
i never have anything incriminating on my ph, they still not getting it.
 

reza92

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Unless your directly involved in the house or the person of the person listed on the warrant they should have no grounds to search or seize money on you. At the same time if someones gettin raided an your there its just your bad luck, wrong place wrong time sorta deal the pigs always have a loop hole up there sleeves.. If its a random stop up the street an they asked for my phone i would tell em to piss off but at the same time an i knew there was nothin incriminating on there i would hand it over to save aby further follow ups from them becuase i was acting dodgey an tryna hide something
My phone could be empty and I’d still tell the dogs to get fucked
 

bursto

Well-Known Member
i, been, on another sativa high
making my budjet floro grow into

a budjet led grow, with a added 12v humidifier, i just ordering the digital humidity/temp monitor so i can check my temps, bit mad atm
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what spun me out it only draws 2.7 amp max, thats light, fan, and the little lion humidifer
if i get any kinda weed, from this thing, ill be stoked homies
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DustyDuke

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um,, the led grow strips were like 12 bucks from ,,China (said like trump), and the fan were from an old computer, the air movement fans and humidifier i found at the tip for like 5 bucks each
Cool are you just vegging in there or flowering too
 
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