Need your help. Seedlings are dying

[fumaganja]

Hi guys,

I've held out long enough but now I really dont know what to do. I messed my seedlings up by putting my new LEC too close then going on holiday for 3 days, didnt realise how strong it still was. They've been under the light for 11 days now, I raised the light about a week ago.

I've tried not giving them water for a few days, I've tried giving them water, ive moved the light far away now. Its strange because 3 plants are growing great, the rest are, well..dont know what they are doing.

What shall I do? I've got 10 pineapple chunk and 5 gorilla Zkittles all from Barneys farm, its cost me an arm and a leg so would like to save them!

Thanks amigos

 

[CannaCountry]

What are you growing in?

 

[fumaganja]

What are you growing in?

Just soil from a grow shop, I think its organic. Been using distilled water, or tap water with ph 6.0, and root simulator nutes

 

[CannaCountry]

Are there nutrients in said soil?
Root simulator nutrients?...can you explain?
I would refrain from using distilled water for starters.

 

[fumaganja]

Are there nutrients in said soil?
Root simulator nutrients?...can you explain?
I would refrain from using distilled water for starters.

This product in photo. Ok I will stick to tap water. I dont think there are any nutrients in the soil, I used the same soil for my last grow with no problems

 

[fumaganja]

Are there nutrients in said soil?
Root simulator nutrients?...can you explain?
I would refrain from using distilled water for starters.

The leaves feel dry and crispy to touch

 

[JohnDee]

This product in photo. Ok I will stick to tap water. I dont think there are any nutrients in the soil, I used the same soil for my last grow with no problems

Seedlings do not need any root stimulation. Growing roots is their #1 priority. Root stimulators best left for up-potting.
JD

 

[CannaCountry]

I'd find out if your soil has anything in it as far as nutrients...and if not, perhaps a little feed is in order. As mentioned above, I'd pass on the root stimulation stuff.

 

[fumaganja]

Seedlings do not need any root stimulation. Growing roots is their #1 priority. Root stimulators best left for up-potting.
JD

Ok thanks

 

[fumaganja]

I'd find out if your soil has anything in it as far as nutrients...and if not, perhaps a little feed is in order. As mentioned above, I'd pass on the root stimulation stuff.

Ok will do, thanks!

 

[CanadianJim]

If it's fresh soil it'll have nutrients, maybe not added nutrients, but potting soil should always have some naturally.
If it's straight peat, or coco, then nutes may be in order.

 

[fumaganja]

Update and another question. My seedlings are still in the same situation really, not improving much. I've raised the light to as high as possible which is making a slight difference, the problem is I have 4 plants that are growing great putting real size on, and 11 that are looking crap.

I have some other seeds just emerging I can replace the others with if need be, but my question is, what should I do about the 4 plants that are growing strong? As they will be a lot bigger, do I have to keep topping them? Or bend them under a SOG net until they others catch up and form an even canapony? Theres a big difference in size of plants already.

Thanks

 

[Bernie420]

Update and another question. My seedlings are still in the same situation really, not improving much. I've raised the light to as high as possible which is making a slight difference, the problem is I have 4 plants that are growing great putting real size on, and 11 that are looking crap.

I have some other seeds just emerging I can replace the others with if need be, but my question is, what should I do about the 4 plants that are growing strong? As they will be a lot bigger, do I have to keep topping them? Or bend them under a SOG net until they others catch up and form an even canapony? Theres a big difference in size of plants already.

Thanks

Did you feed the plants as the others suggested for you to do since you first posted about this last monday?

 

[fumaganja]

Did you feed the plants as the others suggested for you to do since you first posted about this last monday?

Yes I've given them Grotek nutrients using tap water ph 6.0 - 6.2.

2 of them look possibly a tiny bit stronger, but still no growth

 

[DjSuperman]

Looks like they are not getting enough nutrients because the lower leaves are yellow, and the top leaves are still green, which is indicative of Nitrogen Deficiency.
The top leaves are stealing all of the nitrogen from the bottom leaves to stay alive, and maintain growth, but they are fading fast.
The soil might also be dry from all the heat.
The soil looks super dry to me. I would water the hell out of them until there is like 30% run off coming out the bottom of the pots, and spray the leaves, every 3 days, or every 2 days if it starts getting big and thirsty
I would flush the hell out of them with SuperThrive, and Alaskan Fish Fertilizer. I would go buy it as soon as Lowe's or Home Depot opens...
Lowes is more likely to carry SuperThrive, and Alaskan Fish Fertilizer, while Home Depot usually only carries Alaskan Fish Fertilizer.


I would also give them some SuperThrive. SuperThrive has root stimulators as well as 50 different kinds of plant growth hormones. I only use it to germinate, and when they are seedlings once or twice. Never use it near the Flowering stage, or the plant could change into a male.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/SUPERthrive-4-fl-oz-All-Purpose-Food/1000057545
SuperThrive description: Enables plant success when over-wet, over-dry, over-dark, over-light, over-hot, over-cold, over-saturated with sea water or sea winds, over-buffeted by wind or people. Heals open plant wounds to aid in preventing fungus invasion; fluorescent plants to aid in reducing attraction to some pests. Speeds germinating and development of seeds, cuttings, bulbs and plants. May save years of waiting for harvest ability of fruits and nuts. Improves fruiting and vegetables. Uses up constructively excess fertilizer. Improved root system reaches maximal soil fertility.

And Alaskan Fish Fertilizer, which won't burn, and is safe for seedlings. All organic with an NPK of 10-1-1. I would still try to use half strength tho.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Alaska-Fish-Fertilizer-1-Quart-Natural-All-Purpose-Food/3083645
Alaskan Fish Fertilizer description: Nutrient rich fish has been used as a fertilizer for centuries. The pilgrims knew to bury fish in the soil to assure vigorous plant growth and plentiful harvests. Generations of gardeners have relied on Alaska Fish to give them all the benefits of this traditional, time tested fertilizer in formulas that are easy and convenient to use. Alaska Fish offers pure fish organic fertilizers in formulas that gardeners want. Alaska Fish fertilizer can be applied using a sprinkling can or clog free hose end garden feeder. This product is for use in organic gardening. Use on all indoor and outdoor plants. It is all purpose deodorized fish emulsion fertilizer that is derived from seagoing fish.

 

[fumaganja]

Looks like they are not getting enough nutrients because the lower leaves are yellow, and the top leaves are still green, which is indicative of Nitrogen Deficiency.
The top leaves are stealing all of the nitrogen from the bottom leaves to stay alive, and maintain growth, but they are fading fast.
The soil might also be dry from all the heat.
The soil looks super dry to me. I would water the hell out of them until there is like 30% run off coming out the bottom of the pots, and spray the leaves, every 3 days, or every 2 days if it starts getting big and thirsty
I would flush the hell out of them with SuperThrive, and Alaskan Fish Fertilizer. I would go buy it as soon as Lowe's or Home Depot opens...
Lowes is more likely to carry SuperThrive, and Alaskan Fish Fertilizer, while Home Depot usually only carries Alaskan Fish Fertilizer.


I would also give them some SuperThrive. SuperThrive has root stimulators as well as 50 different kinds of plant growth hormones. I only use it to germinate, and when they are seedlings once or twice. Never use it near the Flowering stage, or the plant could change into a male.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/SUPERthrive-4-fl-oz-All-Purpose-Food/1000057545
SuperThrive description: Enables plant success when over-wet, over-dry, over-dark, over-light, over-hot, over-cold, over-saturated with sea water or sea winds, over-buffeted by wind or people. Heals open plant wounds to aid in preventing fungus invasion; fluorescent plants to aid in reducing attraction to some pests. Speeds germinating and development of seeds, cuttings, bulbs and plants. May save years of waiting for harvest ability of fruits and nuts. Improves fruiting and vegetables. Uses up constructively excess fertilizer. Improved root system reaches maximal soil fertility.

And Alaskan Fish Fertilizer, which won't burn, and is safe for seedlings. All organic with an NPK of 10-1-1. I would still try to use half strength tho.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Alaska-Fish-Fertilizer-1-Quart-Natural-All-Purpose-Food/3083645
Alaskan Fish Fertilizer description: Nutrient rich fish has been used as a fertilizer for centuries. The pilgrims knew to bury fish in the soil to assure vigorous plant growth and plentiful harvests. Generations of gardeners have relied on Alaska Fish to give them all the benefits of this traditional, time tested fertilizer in formulas that are easy and convenient to use. Alaska Fish offers pure fish organic fertilizers in formulas that gardeners want. Alaska Fish fertilizer can be applied using a sprinkling can or clog free hose end garden feeder. This product is for use in organic gardening. Use on all indoor and outdoor plants. It is all purpose deodorized fish emulsion fertilizer that is derived from seagoing fish.

Thanks! Will give it a go

 

[MickFoster]

Looks like coco to me.

 

[fumaganja]

Looks like coco to me.

Growing in organic soil, but it was very dry

 

[fumaganja]

UPDATE - All plants are improving and can finally see an increase in size.

My next problem is, I was planning on growing all 15 in this tent, as you can see 4 plants are A LOT bigger than the other 11 plants. I still want to grow them all together, how would I go about this? Can I still do SOG with a net? Maybe I can keep bending the big plants under the net?

What would everyone reccomend?

 

[Powertech]

UPDATE - All plants are improving and can finally see an increase in size.

My next problem is, I was planning on growing all 15 in this tent, as you can see 4 plants are A LOT bigger than the other 11 plants. I still want to grow them all together, how would I go about this? Can I still do SOG with a net? Maybe I can keep bending the big plants under the net?

What would everyone reccomend?

Many ways you can go about it. Plants won’t ever grow exactly the same, closest you’ll get is clones all from the same mother. I have a couple much shorter plants this grow, so I raised one of the plants up a bit to make it more even with the others. On my first grow I had one plant but the branches were all growing at different heights so I just kept them growing horizontal under the screen.