Hi there I'm new to this but a green thumb with plants. First time with pot though. So bare with me and my spelling lol. Well anyways I have 4 babies at 10 weeks had them at 24/0 in a grow box. With a fan set up I noticed the fan was blowing these guys to hard so I took the fan away for a bit but now they have grown to about 10 inches but the space between the nodes are at least a half a inch each only creating three leaves on each. Yesterday the bottom nodes started there fourth leave. Been very patient have done the right nutrients the stems where purple changed that quick back to a beautiful green. I was over watering so I stopped let them dry out. I'm going to transplant to bigger pots today I was thinking new soil with better nutrient levels.
Skinny stems but at 10 weeks old
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PrometheanLeaf
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Tell me more about your setup and environment the more detailed the better, and if you can give images as well it would be useful.
tiltswitch
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Pics please mate
I have a d.i.y indoor set up the conditions in my City are extremely windy 20-30mph most days, freezing one day hott as balls the next. Anyways I have built a 4ft box with a removable top for when they are taller. It is lined with a foil tape material and foil considering I'm just starting out waiting for my silver film. I have a fan set up at low speed. I'm running a cri 90+ 150watts bulb. And a 19watt 2ft led blue spectrum grow light. My girls where planted in October. They have grown to a stage where the smell very strong but extremely small for the time span of where they should be. I water them with nutrients on Sundays and and regular water on wensday then back to nutrients on sunday. Was thinking maybe my watering technique was wrong so I changed to always nutrients. 24/0 of light still and fan is back on low full time. Sorry for the late response I'm sure everyone understands. I do not have a temp gauge or one for the humidity. I also need to invest in a pH tool lol. Bare with me as I said first time with pot. But I'm a landscaper and have read plenty of gardening books but right now I just don't understand why they are in shock. I am not to sure what strains they are as well unfortunately.
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Boatguy
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Leaves drive growth. Those are looking pretty sparce.
Have they been dying off?
sandman83
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well, plants grow based on 3 things
light, moisture, nutrients
Doesn't really matter if you throw the book at em, they have grown as fast/much as they can with what you've given them/ If you want faster/better growth then try to optimize the conditions better. More/better quality lighting would probably be my first step.
Not sure why everyone tosses a desk lamp in on their first grow. Those fluro's should probably be much closer down as well.
light, moisture, nutrients
Doesn't really matter if you throw the book at em, they have grown as fast/much as they can with what you've given them/ If you want faster/better growth then try to optimize the conditions better. More/better quality lighting would probably be my first step.
Not sure why everyone tosses a desk lamp in on their first grow. Those fluro's should probably be much closer down as well.
No they haven't died off at all just grown straight up. The leaves have gotten much bigger from my first post
Oh no I was just saying I have read books on gardening but I'm new with pot so I have some what of a idea how to grow them but not get them to veg. The desk light was all I had at the begging till I had bought the fluro a couple weeks ago. Also bare with me I'm doing this on a budget. Now lower them you say. How close do they need to be
Lordhooha
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Simply put you’re limited by your light. Light it going to be the main driving factor here.
sandman83
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np, just that's what happens when you only give them minimal light from birth. They grow, but slow and stretchy. With my t5 fluros I keep the bulbs within 3-4 inches. I don't use those CFL/desk lights at all. I bet if you take it out and lower than light down a bunch they will start picking up. Soil looks decent and if you know how to garden you can apply ferts easily.
sandman83
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Something like this is what I like for seedlings/early veg. Low power use, low heat, just have to monitor and keep the lights close.
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Okay I will definitely be lowering it now will my light be enough to get them to the veg. Stage and the get a bigger light for the flowering or will I be fine with this through the whole grow.
Okay good to know just answered my last question lolSomething like this is what I like for seedlings/early veg. Low power use, low heat, just have to monitor and keep the lights close.
HTG 2 Foot 4 Lamp High Output T5 Fixture | HTG Supply
2 Foot 4 Lamp T5 High Output Fluorescent Fixture with four specialty T5 bulbs included with the option to choose your own spectrum. High Output 8,000 lumens! 10' Grounded Power Cord - plugs into a standard household outlet and operates on standard household current Chrome V Hangers included...
sandman83
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Dunno if you have more beans or not, but a proper start with close lights will outperform a stunted one just from my experience. You can try to fix the environment and limp them along but you may not be happy with the end results for the amount of time invested. I am kinda ruthless and cull a lot. If it were me, I'd start some new genetics in solo cups with the lights down close from the start.
To me, trying to get something small and sickly back to health for 2 weeks when i could just start fresh and have a bigger plant in the same time frame seems to be a waste of time. I understand some people are attached to the plants and want to save certain genetics but, sometimes it just doesn't work out and we have to start again.
again, not trying to be rude, but stated from your OP.
at 10 weeks, they should have been in flower @ 16-20" a month ago and fully bushed out unless you were doing some advanced training.
That's what I was thinking of doing maybe keeping one of these. Thank you definitely for the input on everything. I was thinking that as well because I do have more beans so I figured might as well start over.
sandman83
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no worries man we've all been there. I tried to limp along with spidermites once and learned my lesson. I always try to look at growing as a return on time invested. No harm done here, you learned about the watering and growth, just need more lights to get em growing better. The runts could always surprise you and take off like a rocket. But, just in my experience, a runt is a runt.
That's exactly what I thought as well so this must have been a lighting issue from the begging of it all
Not rude at all thank you for the honesty. Really I'm new to the whole pot growing. So no offense is taking I'm here to learn
Yeah see I'm just experimenting with these so I figured my first set would be a ring and I'd have to re start. That why I came here lol.