Help StarDawg White spots, droopy, curly

[GodFather777]

Hey Merry Christmas everyone!
My Stardog is in vegatative stage which comes to flowering now but cant do that because of this problem. There apears white spots on lower leafs, leafes are curly, plants consuming water harder than they should and they look droopy, tried to look at deficiencies by leaves but cant find anything. I washed roots after then plants were looking better but still curly, and watered today with nutes and they are droopy again.. 5 smaler plants repoted them 2 days ago, and theyr leaves are turning more and more lighter than they should be. I'll post a few photos. Dont know what to do how to act in this situation. The last 4 photos are my smallest stardogs with lighter leaves.

 

[Medicated Bonsai]

Whats the climate like in your grow area? Some of those leafs look crispy and dry. I would also inspect the leafs with the white dots a little closer, I think it could be thrips so check the under sides as well. The pictures with yellowing leafs looks like a magnesium deficiency to me. Those are my opinions, I would wait for someone else to chime in and verify or give their own opinions. Either way, good luck.

 

[Gond00s]

I have some gelat.og and they are the biggest mag whores I have grown but they like stressing so much some plants do that but I grew it good once wow the bud is topshelf love it she would taco real bad and they only yellow like this pic doesnt burn at all just yellows i upped the pk a little but more phospor

 

[GodFather777]

Whats the climate like in your grow area? Some of those leafs look crispy and dry. I would also inspect the leafs with the white dots a little closer, I think it could be thrips so check the under sides as well. The pictures with yellowing leafs looks like a magnesium deficiency to me. Those are my opinions, I would wait for someone else to chime in and verify or give their own opinions. Either way, good luck.

Temperature is 27c and 40% humidity, until yesterday i sprayed them every 2 3 hours so theres enough water for them. Checked yesterday for mites and other living organisms underneath found only few egs of mites but not them selves, so i thought maybe its some disease those white dots. Can they be so droopy and curly because of Magnesium deficiencie?

 

[GodFather777]

I have some gelat.og and they are the biggest mag whores I have grown but they like stressing so much some plants do that but I grew it good once wow the bud is topshelf love it she would taco real bad and they only yellow like this pic doesnt burn at all just yellows i upped the pk a little but more phospor
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So you mean it could be because of Phosphorus deficiencie? And i have Grapefruit small plants they grow with 3 leaves not 5 as it should be, but climate and nutrients im giving them ar the same as stardog, they look happy but with 3 leaves and stardog is droopy and curly. Im using CocoCoir with PH 6.0 maybe i should make it higher? Like 6.2?

 

[Gond00s]

Not sure let them go and see if they get worse

 

[GodFather777]

Not sure let them go and see if they get worse

Haha dont have much time for that i need to get on flowering stage now, and cant stress them because they already not looking good :/ Aftaid to kill them with stressing

 

[evergreengardener]

can you get some pics without the hps light on??

did you say you found mite eggs? but not mites? if so you def will have living mites they can take time to find

 

[GodFather777]

can you get some pics without the hps light on??

did you say you found mite eggs? but not mites? if so you def will have living mites they can take time to find

Yeah i have mites but now theres verry small population of them i can find only eggs but not mites, waiting for predators to solve this problem. The main problem is why theyre are si droopy and curling, what do they need. So heres some photos witouth lights

 

[Tkm953]

There is no such thing as (just a small colony of mites)What kinda predators are you hoping will eradicate what's left?The spots are probably mite damage,Also those older leaves look awfully dark,and shiny,How much nitrogen are you giving?

 

[OGBudz]

^Agreed, the mite issue probably just started. Looks like more than 1 issue going on and I'm pretty sure spider mites is one of them. Ladybugs will take care the mites

 

[boybelue]

Have you ck'd your runoff pH, some of those pics with the twisted distorted leaves look very similar to a pH problem. Definitely spider mites on the speckles.

 

[GodFather777]

I'm gonna try Phytoseiulus persimilis a lot of people says ladybugs wont do the job. I always check pH before watering, tried to stick to 6.0 with CocoCoir but now thinking to make it to 6.2. And how do i calculate nitrogen level? I can post a few photos of nutrients with percentage if it helps

 

[boybelue]

Keeping your pH meter calibrated?

 

[GodFather777]

Keeping your pH meter calibrated?

Yes

 

[boybelue]

You haven't watered with straight tap water have you? Without letting the chlorine dissipate out first?

 

[GodFather777]

You haven't watered with straight tap water have you? Without letting the chlorine dissipate out first?

Hahaha no i didnt i have 100liter tanks, that water could sit before i use it on plants ))

 

[CannaCountry]

If you're in coco, and you think there's an issue with your 6.0 pH...lower it, don't raise it.

You have pests and it's not a little infestation. Every pic, has either damage or you can see the mites. If you're not in flower, I'd look at a spray alternative to get a hold of your problem. Then turn the predatory bugs loose.

Some of your leaves show that you're short on Mg.

Some of your leaves suggest either high values of N or P...which may be locking out your Mg

The twisted leaves could note a pH issue. Are you 100% sure your pen is reading right? Are you sure of the pH you're putting into the plant? What are you feeding? And while I don't practice testing my run off...you may want to do that if you can.

Good luck friend.

 

[boybelue]

Hahaha no i didnt i have 100liter tanks, that water could sit before i use it on plants ))

Idk man, that twisted distorted look in that first pic is always a tale tale sign for me my pH is off. I hardly ever ck mine just watch for that twist. One of those pics looks like calcium which can look like other early symptoms. LEDs and coco are both bad for calcium defiencies which run hand and hand with iron and manganese. Overwatering usually leads to droopy plants but it's almost impossible to over water coco. They dont look that bad though and may finish just fine.

 

[CannaCountry]

"watering every 2 or 3 days about 400~500ml per 17L of soil. Any ideas? Maybe they need something? Im using now Superthrive, Formulex, Silicone, GreenCoir, Rhizotonic, Canazym, Calmag. But i had the same nutrients with my last StarDog and it was alright. But back then i was using 20ml each of Superthrive, Silicone and Formulex and now its 40ml each."

^This is what you said in your other post... 500ml in a 17L pot, every 2 or 3 days...in coco, and all the different things you're feeding are not helping you.