Live soil / super soil in oregon

[SuBlimE420]

Greetings all,

Up in NW oregon, looking to switch to all organic / water only grow that i can transplant clones into.

Any recommendations on blends I can buy via amazon or locally? I dont currently have the space to compost or mix a large batch

Thanks~~

 

[Go go n chill]

I use Down To Earth’s product line of meals. Been using them for 3 years now. Cheap too. It works for me. No fancy box or bottle.

 

[TerrapinBlazin]

I build my own recycled organic living soil. There’s a sticky thread in the organics forum that discusses it in great detail.

Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

After several years and countless dollars wasted on chemical nutes and never recycling my soil I have learned the true way of gardening thanks to a great thread on ICMag. ALL CREDIT TO: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=241964 Living organic soil from start through recycling. Special...

www.rollitup.org

As I mentioned in that thread I absolutely despise the term “super soil”. It sets the bar for what is considered good soil really low if only properly made, composted, organic soil is “super soil”. There is nothing super about setting up a microbial ecosystem in your soil. It happens on its own in nature and I doubt anyone would call the dirt in their backyard super. Living soil is my preferred term because it’s the most accurate. There are a million ways to get it started. I mix all my ingredients together and compost them in a bin next to my grow tent. I got all my soil ingredients from Lowe’s except for the leached horse manure which I can get for free. I use Jobe’s all purpose organic plant food granules to start the compost because it’s got a really good blend of soil microbes and makes a great inoculant. Although the horse manure has actinomyces (firefang) in it, trichoderma (fuzzy white mold with bright green spores) is the microbe that does the most work. Anaerobic bacteria such as bacillus play a huge role too. I got deep into mycology and microbiology when I was growing shrooms and I’m glad some of what I learned translated to cannabis.

 

[SuBlimE420]

I use Down To Earth’s product line of meals. Been using them for 3 years now. Cheap too. It works for me. No fancy box or bottle.View attachment 4445288

Thanks
What are your ratios for the products??

I build my own recycled organic living soil. There’s a sticky thread in the organics forum that discusses it in great detail.

Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

After several years and countless dollars wasted on chemical nutes and never recycling my soil I have learned the true way of gardening thanks to a great thread on ICMag. ALL CREDIT TO: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=241964 Living organic soil from start through recycling. Special...

www.rollitup.org

As I mentioned in that thread I absolutely despise the term “super soil”. It sets the bar for what is considered good soil really low if only properly made, composted, organic soil is “super soil”. There is nothing super about setting up a microbial ecosystem in your soil. It happens on its own in nature and I doubt anyone would call the dirt in their backyard super. Living soil is my preferred term because it’s the most accurate. There are a million ways to get it started. I mix all my ingredients together and compost them in a bin next to my grow tent. I got all my soil ingredients from Lowe’s except for the leached horse manure which I can get for free. I use Jobe’s all purpose organic plant food granules to start the compost because it’s got a really good blend of soil microbes and makes a great inoculant. Although the horse manure has actinomyces (firefang) in it, trichoderma (fuzzy white mold with bright green spores) is the microbe that does the most work. Anaerobic bacteria such as bacillus play a huge role too. I got deep into mycology and microbiology when I was growing shrooms and I’m glad some of what I learned translated to cannabis.

Would love to compost my own but no space atm,
Thanks for the info on the firefang/trichoderna


Since I'm super limited on space, I'm really looking for something that's "plug n play" "buy n go"!

Thanks

 

[TerrapinBlazin]

That’s cool. No problem there. I hear a lot of good stuff about fox farm ocean forest. Here’s a pic of my soil bin next to my veg tent. It doesn’t take up that much space. Soil goes straight from the compost bin into pots. If you plan to recycle it you’ll need a compost bin to break down any pieces of old roots and whatnot.

 

[SuBlimE420]

That’s cool. No problem there. I hear a lot of good stuff about fox farm ocean forest. Here’s a pic of my soil bin next to my veg tent. It doesn’t take up that much space. Soil goes straight from the compost bin into pots. If you plan to recycle it you’ll need a compost bin to break down any pieces of old roots and whatnot.
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Nice! What size tent/pots do you have?

I've been thinkinby about doing equal parts ocean forest / happy frog and some kelp meal / guano to sprinkle in or top dress with

 

[Go go n chill]

I build my own recycled organic living soil. There’s a sticky thread in the organics forum that discusses it in great detail.

Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

After several years and countless dollars wasted on chemical nutes and never recycling my soil I have learned the true way of gardening thanks to a great thread on ICMag. ALL CREDIT TO: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=241964 Living organic soil from start through recycling. Special...

www.rollitup.org

As I mentioned in that thread I absolutely despise the term “super soil”. It sets the bar for what is considered good soil really low if only properly made, composted, organic soil is “super soil”. There is nothing super about setting up a microbial ecosystem in your soil. It happens on its own in nature and I doubt anyone would call the dirt in their backyard super. Living soil is my preferred term because it’s the most accurate. There are a million ways to get it started. I mix all my ingredients together and compost them in a bin next to my grow tent. I got all my soil ingredients from Lowe’s except for the leached horse manure which I can get for free. I use Jobe’s all purpose organic plant food granules to start the compost because it’s got a really good blend of soil microbes and makes a great inoculant. Although the horse manure has actinomyces (firefang) in it, trichoderma (fuzzy white mold with bright green spores) is the microbe that does the most work. Anaerobic bacteria such as bacillus play a huge role too. I got deep into mycology and microbiology when I was growing shrooms and I’m glad some of what I learned translated to cannabis.

Can you explain leached manure

 

[TerrapinBlazin]

Can you explain leached manure

Leached horse manure is also known as field aged horse manure. It’s basically stuff that’s been sitting outside for a long time so that all of the hot chemicals are rinsed out and some beneficial bacteria has had time to colonize it.

 

[Go go n chill]

Leached horse manure is also known as field aged horse manure. It’s basically stuff that’s been sitting outside for a long time so that all of the hot chemicals are rinsed out and some beneficial bacteria has had time to colonize it.

I grow in soil with FFOF that has been recycled. I have access to manure but I’m afraid that it would bring unwanted pests into my indoor garden. Aren’t you man? I love the taste of my organic, soil grown bud.

 

[TerrapinBlazin]

If you’re really worried about it bringing in pests then you can always pasteurize it first and re-inoculate it. Pasteurizing kills bugs and mold but not the good bacteria. I do this when prepping mushroom substrates because thermophilic bacteria is good and mold isn’t for mushrooms, but the same trichoderma that is every mushroom cultivator’s worst enemy is great for plants. The field aged leached manure is so dry by the time it’s ready, plus I run it through a wood chipper, so the only thing that really gets through is an unwanted seed. I don’t use a whole lot of it, and it’s more to feed the compost than the plants.

 

[SuBlimE420]

If you’re really worried about it bringing in pests then you can always pasteurize it first and re-inoculate it. Pasteurizing kills bugs and mold but not the good bacteria. I do this when prepping mushroom substrates because thermophilic bacteria is good and mold isn’t for mushrooms, but the same trichoderma that is every mushroom cultivator’s worst enemy is great for plants. The field aged leached manure is so dry by the time it’s ready, plus I run it through a wood chipper, so the only thing that really gets through is an unwanted seed. I don’t use a whole lot of it, and it’s more to feed the compost than the plants.

Great stuff, never thought about pasteurizing!!