Leaf diagnosis request - burn or deficiency?

[DaFreak]

Not sure how much it matters but the GH feeding chart has an order to add your nutrients and supplements. Look on the lower left of their charts and they have a couple of blurbs about the sequence. It's been two years since I've used GH but I believe it's Silica, Cal-mag then Micro. Just a little piece of the puzzle to be aware of.

There used to be this guy, friend of Hempy, who had a video on YouTube showing him mixing nutes. He poured all the nutes into an empty bucket....and then added water. According to everything we “know” all sorts of bad shit should have happened but it didn’t, he got great results. Point is it doesn’t really matter.

 

[DaFreak]

I felt you over did it on the chemicals and the plants look pretty good so far. I figured plain water, clean them out, let them die, harvest the yield, and be grateful. Do what you want, but time after time, I see people on here killing plants because they want to pump too much stuff in. You end up being a victim of advertising. I don't recall anyone using so much stuff and coming here and saying "I've got the best grow ever." It's always "here's the stuff I'm using and my plants looks bad." That's what I notice and I've been here for years. good luck with it.

Dude you advise sucked, sorry but it did, don’t back peddle now. Victim of advertising? Get over yourself.

 

[polishpollack]

"You can lead a horse to water, but...." I can't teach those that won't be taught. Using all those chemicals isn't necessary and a good example of what not to do. But like I said, you're not the first one here to do that and it will happen again. If you consume those plants, there's no telling what you're putting in yourself. Run just water, then let them die, then harvest. You came here looking for help. I probably didn't bother reading the whole thread because I've seen this kind of thing so many times. Once I see all those chemicals in the grow, I know that's the issue.
It isn't worth arguing over. You'll just start again later, no matter what happens. FWIW, I grew plants to 6 feet just using a one-part fert, Dynagro 7-9-5. So knowing that, maybe you can see why I say using all those bottles isn't a good idea. If used, they need to be used in such small amounts, and it's not even really necessary to buy them. So that's why I say you become a victim of advertising. Any time we buy something we don't want or need... how else do you explain it? Lots of cool looking bottles being sold and before you know it, you've spent $100 or more on fert when you didn't need to. Someone wins in this, but it won't be the grower.

 

[DaFreak]

"You can lead a horse to water, but...." I can't teach those that won't be taught. Using all those chemicals isn't necessary and a good example of what not to do. But like I said, you're not the first one here to do that and it will happen again. If you consume those plants, there's no telling what you're putting in yourself. Run just water, then let them die, then harvest. You came here looking for help. I probably didn't bother reading the whole thread because I've seen this kind of thing so many times. Once I see all those chemicals in the grow, I know that's the issue.
It isn't worth arguing over. You'll just start again later, no matter what happens. FWIW, I grew plants to 6 feet just using a one-part fert, Dynagro 7-9-5. So knowing that, maybe you can see why I say using all those bottles isn't a good idea. If used, they need to be used in such small amounts, and it's not even really necessary to buy them. So that's why I say you become a victim of advertising. Any time we buy something we don't want or need... how else do you explain it? Lots of cool looking bottles being sold and before you know it, you've spent $100 or more on fert when you didn't need to. Someone wins in this, but it won't be the grower.

what 100% complete nonsense. You like your Nute selection, big deal guy. Buy whatever you want. People have great success with the stuff he is using. People have shitty results with the stuff you are using. It doesn't make a difference. I've seen people grow with commercial grade nutrients they buy for pennies per pound. I guess that makes you an idiot going by your logic. Oh damn, you believed the jive and bought "Dynagro" for hundreds of dollars instead of 10 bucks. Black Pot Kettle and too thick to know.

 

[DaFreak]

So, very defensive and nothing useful. Sounds like you are mad other people can afford things?

Go google how much his dynagrow costs. lol, it's not cheap.

 

[sandman83]

Go google how much his dynagrow costs. lol, it's not cheap.

So, are people thinking that the black market stuff available in my local is all perfectly organically grown buds like they get in cali? Some of us are pretty limited in what is available, I can smell the bud rot and chemicals on some of the batches and turn it back, we get mostly medical grade rejected shit here. So yeah, I'm trying to grow my own now and actually "know" what was sprayed on my buds. At least i can guarantee there were no PGR, Avid, Eagle20, etc on my grows.

 

[DaFreak]

I mean one can debate if they want to if salts end up in buds. I'm on the side that says that's nonsense.

 

[polishpollack]

So, are people thinking that the black market stuff available in my local is all perfectly organically grown buds like they get in cali? Some of us are pretty limited in what is available, I can smell the bud rot and chemicals on some of the batches and turn it back, we get mostly medical grade rejected shit here. So yeah, I'm trying to grow my own now and actually "know" what was sprayed on my buds. At least i can guarantee there were no PGR, Avid, Eagle20, etc on my grows.

I'd say that's a step in the right direction.

 

[polishpollack]

Go google how much his dynagrow costs. lol, it's not cheap.

Is it cheaper to buy many bottles?

 

[polishpollack]

what 100% complete nonsense. You like your Nute selection, big deal guy. Buy whatever you want. People have great success with the stuff he is using. People have shitty results with the stuff you are using. It doesn't make a difference. I've seen people grow with commercial grade nutrients they buy for pennies per pound. I guess that makes you an idiot going by your logic. Oh damn, you believed the jive and bought "Dynagro" for hundreds of dollars instead of 10 bucks. Black Pot Kettle and too thick to know.

I bought the Dynagro back in 2003. I paid $11.00 for it.
You can get one quart these days for 20.00 off amazon. Hydro growers should buy the quart bottle rather the 8 oz. bottle because you use a lot more in a hydro grow.

Amazon.com : dynagrow 7-9-5

 

[sandman83]

I'd say that's a step in the right direction.

truce? I've got no beef with you man, I'm not really concerned with the price of my grow or equipment either though.

I'm well aware my 2nd and 3rd run will turn out better as I figure things out and remember old lessons.

 

[sandman83]

Go google how much his dynagrow costs. lol, it's not cheap.

I haven't actually found there to be a corresponding difference in growth of plants and price of the fertilizers. It's why i stayed with the GH 3 part and was trying out the lucas formula. If I understand correctly it is basically the same as the dry ferts maxigrow/bloom that I would like to eventually switch to for cost savings. I don't understand the appeal of mailing colored water around the country when i could mix it myself. Now that I've run into issues I'm going to leave well enough alone until i can read the plants better myself.

 

[polishpollack]

truce? I've got no beef with you man, I'm not really concerned with the price of my grow or equipment either though.

I'm well aware my 2nd and 3rd run will turn out better as I figure things out and remember old lessons.

You should be concerned about the price of what you put into it. No need for truce because I was trying explain something to you, not argue with you. Consider what I said about Dynagro. Read labels, follow their directions. Go easy at first when plants are small, then raise fert level as stated on directions. Stop feeding at least one week before harvest time, to rid the plants of nutrients.

 

[sandman83]

You should be concerned about the price of what you put into it. No need for truce because I was trying explain something to you, not argue with you. Consider what I said about Dynagro. Read labels, follow their directions. Go easy at first when plants are small, then raise fert level as stated on directions. Stop feeding at least one week before harvest time, to rid the plants of nutrients.

Honestly the price of equipment and electricity far out weight a handful of bottles of ferts. Let alone renovations and getting the grow room prepared. I understand what you mean about wasting the ferts though and adding in the total cost of the grow.

 

[DaFreak]

I bought the Dynagro back in 2003. I paid $11.00 for it.
You can get one quart these days for 20.00 off amazon. Hydro growers should buy the quart bottle rather the 8 oz. bottle because you use a lot more in a hydro grow.

Amazon.com : dynagrow 7-9-5

The point is...even at $20 it's a lot more then dry ferts so you are the pot in this equation. But I do find it odd that you haven't bought ferts since 2003. You must not grow much?

 

[sandman83]

The point is...even at $20 it's a lot more then dry ferts so you are the pot in this equation. But I do find it odd that you haven't bought ferts since 2003. You must not grow much?

Shrug, maybe he's doing the amended super soil or notill or something that doesn't need bottle ferts. I'm more a math and numbers guys so I like measuring and quantifying things.

 

[DaFreak]

You should be concerned about the price of what you put into it. No need for truce because I was trying explain something to you, not argue with you. Consider what I said about Dynagro. Read labels, follow their directions. Go easy at first when plants are small, then raise fert level as stated on directions. Stop feeding at least one week before harvest time, to rid the plants of nutrients.

lol, oh my god, no, you said, "Just use water." and now you are back peddling because you know that was poor advice. Guy I don't know what your thing is, but everything you have said in this thread is pure nonsense. But it's great that you have come around to the consensus and are now saying back off the ppms a little.

 

[DaFreak]

Shrug, maybe he's doing the amended super soil or notill or something that doesn't need bottle ferts. I'm more a math and numbers guys so I like measuring and quantifying things.

Doesn't matter. What we pay to produce bud is nothing, zilch. People spend more on their morning coffee. And yhim suggesting that you bought the hype just eats me a little the wrong way from a dude who is buying shit called Dynagrow.

 

[sandman83]

Doesn't matter. What we pay to produce bud is nothing, zilch. People spend more on their morning coffee. And yhim suggesting that you bought the hype just eats me a little the wrong way from a dude who is buying shit called Dynagrow.

meh we can move on with life. Hope these plants do the same and something gets out of it. Will follow up in a few weeks so yall can see for good or ill what happened.

At least i know the only thing sprayed on these was neem before they went to the flower room .

 

[DaFreak]

And by the looks of it, a shit load of weed that looks good to me. It's like whoever it was who said, "they aren't growing leafs, they are growing weed."