Aussie Growers Thread

DustyDuke

DustyDuke

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reza92 said:
That’s just blatantly not true. You actually base soil temps off water temps at the same depth because water is both and insulator and a conductor. Go relearn some physics. It’s why caves are a constant temp, if they have water the cave will be the same temp as the water.
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What’s not true you been right?
Yes and if the water is cold the cave is cold then?
That’s what I said cold water, cold ground. I don’t get what you are arguing.
Insulation gets the tick from me :peace:
 
bursto

bursto

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Rewerb said:
My fingers can't remember where to go any more.:cry:
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we can fix that

still got the gear if r you in WA think about it im down a bass player, and you'll like my mates half of them r poms? but no bass players

they'll like having you arround

we will get you up to speed again after a while
 
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reza92

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DustyDuke said:
What’s not true you been right?
Yes and if the water is cold the cave is cold then?
That’s what I said cold water, cold ground. I don’t get what you are arguing.
Insulation gets the tick from me :peace:
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That’s not what I said. If it’s 20 degrees at day and 0 degrees at night the temp will never hit 0. It’s called a thermal mass. The cave temp is based on the water temp, if the waters 30 degrees the cave is 30 degrees. Water temp also changes in relation to depth. Go scuba diving and tell me how warm the water is at 2-3m depth compared to surface temp.
 
Rewerb

Rewerb

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bursto said:
you had to say the magic word

Motorhead

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Forgive me if I come across as a bit patronising here, but No, I'm talking Motorhead. The musicians (lovely blokes, btw). The gigs. The drugs. The UNBELIEVEABLY, INCREDIBLY PHENOMINAL volume levels when there was no such thing as noise pollution or time curfews in the UK in the early '80's.

Being saturated in sweat in the middle of winter.

Walking out of the gig & having your sweat freeze on your clothes.

Walking out of the gig with your ears ringing for days & not being able to hear anything (I'm partially deaf because of it).

NOT video's or hairspray.
 
Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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reza92 said:
That’s not what I said. If it’s 20 degrees at day and 0 degrees at night the temp will never hit 0. It’s called a thermal mass. The cave temp is based on the water temp, if the waters 30 degrees the cave is 30 degrees. Water temp also changes in relation to depth. Go scuba diving and tell me how warm the water is at 2-3m depth compared to surface temp.
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I agree with the water temp stuff.

I'm not sure about the cave analogy though. Because the cave has it's own thermal mass, which the water will acclimatize to.
Wouldn't this be true, because of the density of the earth in the cave, being much higher than the density of water?

Edit: what I'm trying to suggest, is the earth is the insulator, not the water.
 
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bursto

bursto

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Rewerb said:
Forgive me if I come across as a bit patronising here, but No, I'm talking Motorhead. The musicians (lovely blokes, btw). The gigs. The drugs. The UNBELIEVEABLY, INCREDIBLY PHENOMINAL volume levels when there was no such thing as noise pollution or time curfews in the UK in the early '80's.

Being saturated in sweat in the middle of winter.

Walking out of the gig & having your sweat freeze on your clothes.

Walking out of the gig with your ears ringing for days & not being able to hear anything (I'm partially deaf because of it).

NOT video's or hairspray.
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yes so true live over canned

i get it, no need to preach to the converted
 
Rewerb

Rewerb

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Lucky Luke said:
speaking of hair, people forget how big Rose Tattoo was in England and Europe. If it wasnt for some bad luck and timing they could of made it in America.

You have to turn that one way up and listen to the story.
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You're right. I knew about Rose Tattoo before I left the UK. They could've been HUGE!
 
reza92

reza92

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Aussieaceae said:
I agree with the water, temp stuff.

I'm not sure about the cave analogy though. Because the cave has it's own thermal mass, which the water will acclimatize to.
Wouldn't this be true, because of the density of the earth in the cave, being much higher than the density of water?
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It’s the caves air temp that will equalise to the water temp. Not the surrounding ground so much. Small amounts of water (from say a steam) don’t have thermal mass so day/night temps would vary the cave temp if the water flows from outside, if the water source originates in the cave then the cave will remain at a constant temp.

Have a little read of this if your interested. https://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Cooling/EarthTemperatures.htm

There’s be better data out there but I’m on my phone and googling academic literature is a pain on phone browsers.
 
DustyDuke

DustyDuke

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reza92 said:
That’s not what I said. If it’s 20 degrees at day and 0 degrees at night the temp will never hit 0. It’s called a thermal mass. The cave temp is based on the water temp, if the waters 30 degrees the cave is 30 degrees. Water temp also changes in relation to depth. Go scuba diving and tell me how warm the water is at 2-3m depth compared to surface temp.
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Insulation gets the tick from me :peace:
 
Rewerb

Rewerb

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bursto said:
yeah i know

revoke his aussie thread visa then

if he thinks those tracks refer to being a rampant poo shooter

im sure i started off this morning with, no hidden meanings just rock

ive been posting weed n booty vids for days, his arse is safe

cant he read the queens english

sepo's are useless....???? they just dont get it unless they been here a few times


sepitc tank= yank
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You just lost my respect in one fell swoop with that post.
 
bursto

bursto

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Rewerb said:
You just lost my respect in one fell swoop with that post.
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it was a joke

i though Americans had the loudest voice out there

let him talk for him self im still waiting for his response

i pressume musically speaking that he was refering to the judas priest post

there's no visa
 
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Aussieaceae

Aussieaceae

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reza92 said:
It’s the caves air temp that will equalise to the water temp. Not the surrounding ground so much. Small amounts of water (from say a steam) don’t have thermal mass so day/night temps would vary the cave temp if the water flows from outside, if the water source originates in the cave then the cave will remain at a constant temp.

Have a little read of this if your interested. https://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Cooling/EarthTemperatures.htm

There’s be better data out there but I’m on my phone and googling academic literature is a pain on phone browsers.
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Under the Soil Temperature heading, i'm fairly sure it backs up what I suggested. By stating the ground deeper down, fluctuates much less and holds it's temperature a lot longer.

They're suggesting it's an insulator.
 
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