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T macc

T macc

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mawasmada said:
I've looked at Swami, The Landrace Team, Underground Seed Collective, Landrace Preservation Company.
Source is new to me. I'm still doing my homework.
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The male(s) they use is a "Pure" Thai x Friendship OG. I dont know how "Pure" the Thai is, or what region it comes from. Out of 6 females in my Colombian Neck Tie, none look like an OG so far. I'm on week 4 of 12/12 and they've barely started flowering. Going to be a while to to finish these I think. They claim 13 weeks on it.

Its (Columbian Red x (Thai x Friendship OG)) I have a big pollen chick project going.
 
skuba

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T macc said:
The male(s) they use is a "Pure" Thai x Friendship OG. I dont know how "Pure" the Thai is, or what region it comes from. Out of 6 females in my Colombian Neck Tie, none look like an OG so far. I'm on week 4 of 12/12 and they've barely started flowering. Going to be a while to to finish these I think. They claim 13 weeks on it.

Its (Columbian Red x (Thai x Friendship OG)) I have a big pollen chick project going.
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I have a pack of those Colombian Neck Tie, really interested to see how yours turn out. I’m hoping for psychedelic weed
 
T macc

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skuba said:
I have a pack of those Colombian Neck Tie, really interested to see how yours turn out. I’m hoping for psychedelic weed
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I'm going to be happy to have a stash again lol. But me too. Theres not much word on Columbian Red. Haven't ran it yet myself, but there's also Brothers Love from the source. Got them for a far future run.

I have Haze leaning male and female from 2 different strains. Once that's done, and given a thumbs up, I'm going to chuck with some Columbian Thai
 
mawasmada

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T macc said:
The male(s) they use is a "Pure" Thai x Friendship OG. I dont know how "Pure" the Thai is, or what region it comes from. Out of 6 females in my Colombian Neck Tie, none look like an OG so far. I'm on week 4 of 12/12 and they've barely started flowering. Going to be a while to to finish these I think. They claim 13 weeks on it.

Its (Columbian Red x (Thai x Friendship OG)) I have a big pollen chick project going.
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They have some stuff that looks fun to smoke, but not really what I'm looking for.
 
Nutbag Poster

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phantumstranga said:
Beware of brothers grim. Their recent seed history is in shambles.they are marketing things falsely and using different genetics and passing them off as what used to be. I would never support them after the fiascoes I witnessed go down.
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Aw crap... that's a bummer. Is there a bunch of forum chat about this downfall... I hadn't heard of this. I heard Duke Diamond left, but I figured he just wanted to do his own thing. Maybe more stuff was wrong, huh. No need to be too specific but what sort of fiascoes did you witness? Runs of their seeds that didn't turn out right? Not questioning you, just curious about more details. I thought they were one of the good ones and I have a few seeds that I bought a year or two ago.
 
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phantumstranga

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Aw crap... that's a bummer. Is there a bunch of forum chat about this downfall... I hadn't heard of this. I heard Duke Diamond left, but I figured he just wanted to do his own thing. Maybe more stuff was wrong, huh. No need to be too specific but what sort of fiascoes did you witness? Runs of their seeds that didn't turn out right? Not questioning you, just curious about more details. I thought they were one of the good ones and I have a few seeds that I bought a year or two ago.
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Well when bg started selling beans again a few years back they claimed they reobtained the genetics from friends etc.... Years later after not a single person found real c99 they came into the public eye and stated they used a brother to the male used in original c99. However they also went on to state they were trying to make more stable genetics etc ... The question then becomes how does a brother to the original male make the line more stable and not yield similar results? Hmmmm ... I know multiple people who spent $$$$$'s trying to find a original c99 from all vendor stock out there and only came up with one from fuerdemal. C99 had very specific traits and bg only hit a few of them on the head. You don't stabilize genetics using a brother to the original male and no they nor anyone has the original. You stabilize by cubing and c99 never took too well to that approach . Fact of the matter is there are at least 3-4 banks producing better c99 than its own creators. I can message you the forums and videos if needed. I would never trust them again. Used to find a keeper out of 20-30 beans. Now I have witnessed no keepers found out of over 220 beans used.. Some ok plants were found with cool smells and ok highs but no real c99 descriptive keepers were found. C99 had huge yield for a vvery short flowering time with racey headed highs that lasted long lengths of time between smokes and a terp profile of pineapple/rottenpineapple/fruit bouqyet/or grapefruit phenom which were then and are bow most prevalent in everyone's stock. Finding the pineapple and the other quality traits are near impossible for that single strain alone. Something tells me their practices of quality are long gone and they are cashing in on the stability of every seed making a identical copy of each other for the low budget growers who don't know anything which also erases all practicality of using a strain like that for breeding because variation and potency were murdered
 
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Nutbag Poster

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phantumstranga said:
Well when big started selling beans again a few years back they claimed they reobtained the genetics from friends etc.... Years later after not a single person found real c99 they came into the public eye and stated they used a brother to the male used in original c99. However they also went on to state they were trying to male more stable genetics etc ... The question then becomes how does a brother to the original male make the line more stable and not yield similar results? Hmmmm ... I know multiple people who spent $$$$$'s trying to find a original c99 from all vendor stock out there and only came up with one from fuerdemal. C99 had very specific traits and bg only hit a few of them on the head. You don't stabilize genetics using a brother to the original male and no they nor anyone has the original. Fact of the matter is there are at least 3-4 banks producing better c99 than its own creators. I can message you the forums and videos if needed. I would never trust them again. Used to find a keeper out of 20-30 beans. Now I have witnessed no keepers found out of over 220 beans used.. Some ok plants were found with cool smells and ok highs but no real c99 descriptive keepers were found. C99 had huge yield for a vertimeirt flowering time with scary Tracey headed highs that lasted long lengths of time between smokes and a terp profile of pineapple/rottenpineapple/fruit bouqyet/or grapefruit phenom which were then and are bow most prevalent in everyone's stock. Finding the pineapple and the other quality traits are near impossible for that single strain alone. Something tells me their practices of quality are long gone and they are cashing in on the stability of every seed making a ifebtical copy of eachother for the low budget rowers who don't know anything which also erases all practicality of using a strain like that for breeding
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Thanks for taking the time to fill me in. Do you think they lied about still having Princess and Genius? That's the big one for me. I know they had to find some new males and the fem donors are new. Things don't always turn out the same with a seemingly similar male. Sometimes it's a one-in-a-million male that makes the magic. Maybe the new C99 is a bust but if Genius and Princess are alive they ought to be able to find some new males that work with them... maybe a different variety of theirs might be the one to get with the new BroG. But if they're lying about their two famous moms, that's f'ed up... I want seeds off the true moms if I'm buying from them. No point otherwise.
 
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phantumstranga

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The moms are the same but they lost all of their males. Everything is new from them. They lost their partnership years ago and the other counterpart was responsible for their toxicity and reputation. Notice in the video he even says rosette stone is a new version. How can you call something's its not the same thing? He made fun of someone calling him out that his c99 wasn't real because of double leaf serration.. And then said he used a different male... Not all plants from the same seed batch have the same codominant or recessive genetics. He is a straight up dirty con man. Original c99 had Dbl leaf serrations, more toxicity etc... New male used didn't leave dbl leaf serration. Ultimate proof that you cannot call their new seeds the same name. All factors have changed.. They offer very few strains because they have nothing to work with except for the females. And the original male was why c99 was so good. Don't give their females too much credit. I would dodge them harder than an exgf. Spend your well earned money elsewhere unfortunately.
 
Nutbag Poster

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phantumstranga said:
The moms are the same but they lost all of their males. Everything is new from them. They lost their partnership years ago and the other counterpart was responsible for their toxicity and reputation. Notice in the video he even says rosette stone is a new version. How can you call something's its not the same thing? He made fun of someone calling him out that his c99 wasn't real because of double leaf serration.. And then said he used a different male... Not all plants from the same seed batch have the same codominant or recessive genetics. He is a straight up dirty con man. Original c99 had Dbl leaf serrations, more toxicity etc... New male used didn't leave dbl leaf serration. Ultimate proof that you cannot call their new seeds the same name. All factors have changed.. They offer very few strains because they have nothing to work with except for the females. And the original male was why c99 was so good. Don't give their females too much credit. I would dodge them harder than an exgf. Spend your well earned money elsewhere unfortunately.
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I have no idea why they recycled the Rosetta Stone name with completely different parent lines... that definitely seemed dumb unless maybe they thought the end smoke was "identical" to what the original was. They should have used a new name though...I agree. Maybe they came out of the gate with bogus stories but by the time I noticed they were back (a couple of years ago), the seed listings seemed pretty transparent about the fact that they didn't have the exact same parents anymore and they were recreating the old lines and that RStone had a new mother. That doesn't excuse putting out seeds that suck but poor results are different than total lies. I don't know...I appreciate the heads up though... probably wise to check out other's results before buying any particular variety from them at the least.
 
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phantumstranga

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Anything they ever had is better from someone else if you dig through whom actually had originals from bg. At least the lineage will be 50% better making it a real 100% product
 
Nutbag Poster

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The other breeders have been working with c99 for a long time now...lots of inbreeding for certain traits. It's like a lot of strains....do you want the F1s from the original clone-only mom or do you want heavily selected and inbred F4s. There are reasons you might want one or the other. It's like Mr. Nice's Black Widow vs. a heavily bred White Widow.... people get pissed that Black Widows don't all turn out like the White Widow they expect but others like the full spectrum of the original genes for breeding and pheno hunting.

I bet with a few generations of inbreeding you could turn the new C99 into seeds that give you what you expect. Maybe not though...I don't know.

I've kinda hijacked the thread and steered it way off course...time to move on I suppose. Brothers Grimm's Crystal Blue may or may not be a good pick for capturing some MSS and may or may not be available anymore. So we've established that. :)
 
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phantumstranga

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And if other breeders were working with it its because they found keepers in the original gear. The new gear yields no equal keepers. No sense in revisiting different stock to work harder for nothing
 
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He has 6 crosses of Super Skunk

Melvanetics... Great Lakes Genetics.
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