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[TintEastwood]

What type of deficiencies have you had (if you were able to diagnose them) so far using Jacks? If anything, do you think it was pH related or something else? Are you feeding "full strength Jacks" ratio, and what's the EC?

Thanks.

I had mild cal / mag defs after the first couple weeks of veg.
I ramped up nute ec from 1.2 to 1.6. And upped the calmag ppms.
The one wedding cake continued to show mild cal defs. Has to be different I guess. Lol


I have since lowered the ca a bit.

 

[Flatrate]

Looking good Tint! 14 sisters this run, loading up before the break?

 

[TintEastwood]

Looking good Tint! 14 sisters this run, loading up before the break?

F. Yeah. Lol. And it better be Dank McKill - for my vacation pleasure!

All Darlins net....except
1 wedding cake
2 tahoe og
The tahoe og are constricted in silly plastic pots maybe 1gallon.

That way I'll have a little variety, even before I do a few OZ swaps.

I'm considering some solo cross country this spring!!! Hit some of the Diners Drive-Ins and Dives along the way.

 

[Flatrate]

God I love solo road trips, have done a few in my time. Not cross country but Michigan to Oklahoma and Georgia many times, as well to certain other destinations. Crank up some Bob Seger Live albums and smash the gas, wait till your in the zone with no one around and have some fun. I am a car guy.

Hell yea there is some good food out there. I am a foodie too. If you happen to find yourself around Southern Michigan let me know I would be happy to host you, my passion is cooking. Add garages after Dives, in mine I got my grill, smoker, flat top, 3 basket deep fryer, even got a pizza oven, and I can hold my own in the kitchen.

 

[TintEastwood]

God I love solo road trips, have done a few in my time. Not cross country but Michigan to Oklahoma and Georgia many times, as well to certain other destinations. Crank up some Bob Seger Live albums and smash the gas, wait till your in the zone with no one around and have some fun. I am a car guy.

Hell yea there is some good food out there. I am a foodie too. If you happen to find yourself around Southern Michigan let me know I would be happy to host you, my passion is cooking. Add garages after Dives, in mine I got my grill, smoker, flat top, 3 basket deep fryer, even got a pizza oven, and I can hold my own in the kitchen.

I year ya! Drove from Cali to SC last year, dropped off 4runner for son, then flew home. That was my first road trip since the 80's.
Lived in Valdosta for 3 yrs, nice country. Flippin humid! lol
Dang - 3 basket fryer! Not since Valdosta!

Satellite view

 

[TintEastwood]

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[Flatrate]

Hot damn Tint, looks like some fire for your time off!

 

[TintEastwood]

Hot damn Tint, looks like some fire for your time off!

Just trying to keep up with you! Lol

This run. Unsealed. No AC, with Co2, venting intake/exhaust via fan controller to maintain temp. Dehuey handles RH.

I'm also doing more venting @ and during lights out/on.

Bad!
I'm exhausting precious Co2 and RH stable air! Makes my dehuey work harder, and I go thru more Co2.

Good!
The plants are growing larger, and faster than summer runs when I run sealed with AC....and not enough venting.

Learning as I grow!

 

[2com]

Hey dude, looking good man.

Mind if I ask a Jacks related question here. Flushing, or "tapering off". Do you do some version of this at all, in preparation for harvest? You kinda manipulate and alter your feed throughout flower, so maybe it's a bit complicated. I duno if tapering down two weeks out, or cutting by half, and then to almost nothing would be advisable. Rockwool, not coco though.

I can't find the "Tips from Jacks" page that used to have all the info on mixing order and elemental ppm based off 'x' amount per gallon, as shown in one of @Greengenes707 Jacks videos. I found a tips from jacks page, but not the same one. Only @'d you (gene) in case you have a quick answer, I can't remember what you do, but know that you don't "flush" per say...

Thanks.

 

[2com]

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[TintEastwood]

Hey dude, looking good man.

Mind if I ask a Jacks related question here. Flushing, or "tapering off". Do you do some version of this at all, in preparation for harvest? You kinda manipulate and alter your feed throughout flower, so maybe it's a bit complicated. I duno if tapering down two weeks out, or cutting by half, and then to almost nothing would be advisable. Rockwool, not coco though.

I can't find the "Tips from Jacks" page that used to have all the info on mixing order and elemental ppm based off 'x' amount per gallon, as shown in one of @Greengenes707 Jacks videos. I found a tips from jacks page, but not the same one. Only @'d you (gene) in case you have a quick answer, I can't remember what you do, but know that you don't "flush" per say...

Thanks.

Thanks 2com. I have tried both, flushing and not flushing. I'm more of a taper off guy than flush. I toss my coco, so I don't care about it. lol
And man...I've burned and effed up some plants getting all Bloomy and Boosty during flower on some early runs.

From what I see on the Jacks 321 feed chart, all they do is taper off on the PPM/EC strength for the last 2 weeks. They keep the ratios the same.
That's kinda my plan, with may be a few other adjustments to PK levels. Must resist the urge to get all jiggy! lol
This is my second, and from what I can tell, best run with Jacks.

I need to check out your grow.

 

[2com]

Thanks 2com. I have tried both, flushing and not flushing. I'm more of a taper off guy than flush. I toss my coco, so I don't care about it. lol
And man...I've burned and effed up some plants getting all Bloomy and Boosty during flower on some early runs.

From what I see on the Jacks 321 feed chart, all they do is taper off on the PPM/EC strength for the last 2 weeks. They keep the ratios the same.
That's kinda my plan, with may be a few other adjustments to PK levels. Must resist the urge to get all jiggy! lol
This is my second, and from what I can tell, best run with Jacks.

I need to check out your grow.

Getting bloomy, boosty and jiggy, haha.
Ok, so you taper it off. Is your goal to be at very low to no ppm by a certain week/day? Like two weeks before you expect to finish. Or, do you start your taper at that point? Say like two weeks of tapering and maybe by a few days before harvest you're down to zero?
I've heard a flush is even more important if the plants had been "pushed" (or overfed/burnt tips/similar) during the cycle.

Yea, I wouldn't wanna mess too much with ratios until I had an idea of what "stock" formula does, haha. And keeping ratios, and levels especially of the actual Part A (where all the p, k, and micros are) within reason.
I searched "Jacks 321 feed chart", now I'm finding some stuff. Cool.
Jacks seems great so far.

Hopefully I have something to share in the near future.

 

[2com]

There this: https://www.jacksnutrients.com/growschedules

But then I got to poking around this website. I went to the FAQ and after reading the first three or four I'm asking myself "Ok. So there is a difference in the "Jack's 3-2-1" (the "original" I'll say) and this "new" "Jack's Nutrients" they're talking about? It sure sounds like these products are different from this FAQ page.

FAQs | jrpeters12345

www.jacksnutrients.com

A little bit confused now. This makes it sound like the "Jacks Nutrients" is a reformulated line, for cannabis, and different than the "Jacks Professional" stuff. Now I must know.

I'll have to look into it further (I did before and thought I'd found that it's just new packaging).
Anybody know, please share.
Thanks.

 

[TintEastwood]

There this: https://www.jacksnutrients.com/growschedules

But then I got to poking around this website. I went to the FAQ and after reading the first three or four I'm asking myself "Ok. So there is a difference in the "Jack's 3-2-1" (the "original" I'll say) and this "new" "Jack's Nutrients" they're talking about? It sure sounds like these products are different from this FAQ page.

FAQs | jrpeters12345

www.jacksnutrients.com

A little bit confused now. This makes it sound like the "Jacks Nutrients" is a reformulated line, for cannabis, and different than the "Jacks Professional" stuff. Now I must know.
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I'll have to look into it further (I did before and thought I'd found that it's just new packaging).
Anybody know, please share.
Thanks.

I was wrong about the lowering of PPM on the Jacks chart. They have a bagged finish formula they recommend for the last 2-weeks on the Jacks 321 chart. That PPM is lower. It has some crazy PK numbers at the 5grams they specify! lol



I think they might have changed just the packaging - bag material and colors.
Unlike Megacrop, they don't change the formula every 6 months from what I see.

Some charts here...

Clowning with Jacks 321

Data Documentation Journal. Jack’s 321 is a tried and true two-part fertilizer program. It consists of Jack’s Nutrients Part A 5-12-26, Jack’s Nutrients Part B 15-0-0 and Epsom Salts. 321 is the abbreviated amount (ratio) of each fertilizer in grams per gallon.

www.rollitup.org

 

[2com]

Hope you don't mind if I post what I found here, re: Jacks.

There are two different websites, jrpeters.com, and jacksnutrients.com, the second being the new(er) one.

Here's an article from a link at jacksnutrients.com that kinda explains this "new line", "Jack's Nutrients". The last three paragraphs. https://www.cannabizjournal.com/cannabiz-journal-october-2017/2017/10/2/jr-peters-launches-exclusive-cannabis-nutrition-line-jacks-nutrients

On the jacknutrients.com homepage, scroll down past the cannabis image, the link to above article, to the bottom; you can see the "new line" of products (Jack's Nutrients line). On the right is the 5-12-26 (Part A) and the 15-0-0 (Part B, Cal-Nit). On the left, looks like some of those at least are "new formulations"; 7-15-30 sounds pretty similar to 5-12-26. (Edit: Durp. Didn't see the 7-15-30 in your calculator there).

What my main question is, is has the actual 5-12-26 (Part A) formula/ratios/etc. changed at all? Some of the things I read make it sound like they have changed it a little (or "improved" it a little or something?).

At the jrpeters.com homepage, it now has four "categories"; "Controlled Environment" used to be the one that contained "Jacks Hydroponic 5-12-26" if I remember right. But now, if you go to "Controlled Environment" there's a blurb and a "link" (click the image) and you're taken to "jacksnutrients.com", lol. The "Jack's Professional" category has about sixty different products - all of them in the "old"(?) Jacks/JR Peters packaging - yet not one of them is the 5-12-26... Weird.
The only way I could find "5-12-26" on the jrpeters.com website was to use the search function. Top result (note, it's in new jacks nutrients line packaging): https://www.jrpeters.com/product_/t31652/t19712-5-12-26-hydroponic---part-a

I couldn't find any pictures of the old package label % numbers that weren't blurry to compare with new packaging, hah.
Haven't looked at the charts yet.

I think they might have changed just the packaging - bag material and colors.

That's what I'd have thought. It would be odd to have two "5-12-26" formulas with just slightly different micro ratio or something, from a companies viewpoint, wouldn't it? But "stores"/resellers of it should run out of the "older packaging" at some point...

Unlike Megacrop, they don't change the formula every 6 months from what I see.

"Jacks V2 - CannaSpec" is what they shoulda called this, make it real clear. Lol.

 

[2com]

It has some crazy PK numbers at the 5grams they specify! lol

Wow, that's probably enough potassium I think.

 

[TintEastwood]

Hope you don't mind if I post what I found here, re: Jacks.

There are two different websites, jrpeters.com, and jacksnutrients.com, the second being the new(er) one.

Here's an article from a link at jacksnutrients.com that kinda explains this "new line", "Jack's Nutrients". The last three paragraphs. https://www.cannabizjournal.com/cannabiz-journal-october-2017/2017/10/2/jr-peters-launches-exclusive-cannabis-nutrition-line-jacks-nutrients

On the jacknutrients.com homepage, scroll down past the cannabis image, the link to above article, to the bottom; you can see the "new line" of products (Jack's Nutrients line). On the right is the 5-12-26 (Part A) and the 15-0-0 (Part B, Cal-Nit). On the left, looks like some of those at least are "new formulations"; 7-15-30 sounds pretty similar to 5-12-26. (Edit: Durp. Didn't see the 7-15-30 in your calculator there).

What my main question is, is has the actual 5-12-26 (Part A) formula/ratios/etc. changed at all? Some of the things I read make it sound like they have changed it a little (or "improved" it a little or something?).

At the jrpeters.com homepage, it now has four "categories"; "Controlled Environment" used to be the one that contained "Jacks Hydroponic 5-12-26" if I remember right. But now, if you go to "Controlled Environment" there's a blurb and a "link" (click the image) and you're taken to "jacksnutrients.com", lol. The "Jack's Professional" category has about sixty different products - all of them in the "old"(?) Jacks/JR Peters packaging - yet not one of them is the 5-12-26... Weird.
The only way I could find "5-12-26" on the jrpeters.com website was to use the search function. Top result (note, it's in new jacks nutrients line packaging): https://www.jrpeters.com/product_/t31652/t19712-5-12-26-hydroponic---part-a

I couldn't find any pictures of the old package label % numbers that weren't blurry to compare with new packaging, hah.
Haven't looked at the charts yet.

That's what I'd have thought. It would be odd to have two "5-12-26" formulas with just slightly different micro ratio or something, from a companies viewpoint, wouldn't it? But "stores"/resellers of it should run out of the "older packaging" at some point...

"Jacks V2 - CannaSpec" is what they shoulda called this, make it real clear. Lol.

Good find. That article is from Oct 2017 and seems they might have changed the formulation at that point in time....but it's vague. 2018 forward should all be the same....until they change it again.

With the massive cannabis industry on the rise.....Smart for them to carve out a weed nute lineup.

 

[TintEastwood]

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Wedding Cake


Darlins Net


Tahoe OG

 

[Bobby2times]

Tahoe OG
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Looking good Tint. I have some seedlings going, "Key Master" by Lost River which is Master Widow x Tahoe OG.

Excited to see Tahoe OG in action.

Love Vegas...I like betting sports every now and again, but the food is what gets me. Every big name Chef has a place in Vegas it seems. So much to do. Have fun.

 

[Flatrate]

Awesome as always Tint, you truly grow some nice stuff.