printer
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Weeks?
Bigger isn’t better: The case for growing small marijuana plants..indoors anyway
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printer
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You have as many rights as someone will stick up for you.
ilovereggae
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I think we just will need to agree to disagree. There always has to be someone willing to take the first step. If someone didn't risk breaking the rules, and had other people stuck up for them and won in a court of law, we wouldn't even be at this level of legalization.
Curious, did you grow cannabis before it was legal to do so? If the laws were changed and it was made illegal again in Canada would you respect those laws? Why or why not?
Many, compared to two max...
printer
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I said it tongue in cheek.
printer
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I got my grow certificate before I ordered seeds. I have another privilege allowed by our government that I did not want to jeopardize with growing illegal pot. I am hoping to get an insurance plan to pay for my CBD, if that comes through I would have little reason to keep growing. If they did make it illegal again (won't happen, the Supreme Court ruled on that before pot was made legal) I would probably buy it rather than grow.
ilovereggae
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Sorry if I was at all offensive or came off the wrong way in earlier posts. I appreciate your honesty. I think our views are starting from different places, so we are going to look at this differently no matter what. Only thing I would add is, keep growing your own
printer
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I used to post in a trade site which had a forum and in it an odd little section that discussed religion, politics and other hot button topics. I got in there because of misrepresentations of the Canadian medical system. As you can imagine the discussions could get a little heated. I stayed on giving a different viewpoint. After a year I was asked to become one of the moderators. The ones they had were of a certain slant and they thought I could give a little left bias. Also with all the insults and digs I never attacked back but answered with respect to the poster and then went on to explain he was full of crap. Nicely. I ended up being a mod for about a year.Sorry if I was at all offensive or came off the wrong way in earlier posts. I appreciate your honesty. I think our views are starting from different places, so we are going to look at this differently no matter what. Only thing I would add is, keep growing your own
Offensive? Never noticed it. I doubt we are that far apart, you are talking about events in a reasonably running society, I am coming at it as an absolute. Strip away the limits of society (almost a wild west scenario, a bad off middle eastern country, bad part of town) and there would be no right you are entitled to unless. Because of the talks in the forum I mentioned earlier I found some posters thought that their right were almost absolute and they did not have a good understanding where those rights came from. And while they seemed rock solid that can all go away. So I do not disagree but just was showing a different angle starting from a different reference point. I should have said, yes for 99.9% of the time but...
Even if I could get supplied by a licensed producer I would still want to grow a few plants just for fun. I just don't like to tied down to growing, I can't just take off for weeks at a time on the fly. I am retired and if opportunities to experience different things come up I would like to go for it. Hard to do with a grow going.
..this kinda deal is what bugs me.
To have someone PAY for something that costs stupid amounts. For no other reason that to PROFIT FROM THE SICK
Not many people have the opportunity to have things like this paid for. Seeing people talk about it when other CANT EVER get this as well is where things go right out the window.
Growing your own and knowing what you need is Key here. Not making greedy assholes rich
medical folks have fought hard for this and the LP"s and Feds And Government , wont have it our WAY even though we are the ones who made this all possible..
Its a fucking joke beyond jokes.
PAYING FOR THINGS ANYONE CAN GROW FOR PENNIES IS BEYOND ignorant.
Having someone else pay for that when it can be done simply and easily?....
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ilovereggae
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Navigating this mess on the US side for my son's medical needs is maddening to be honest Also paying full retail for "organic" meds to make FECO will deplete your emergency funds real quick...this kinda deal is what bugs me.
To have someone PAY for something that costs stupid amounts. For no other reason that to PROFIT FROM THE SICK
Not many people have the opportunity to have things like this paid for. Seeing people talk about it when other CANT EVER get this as well is where things go right out the window.
Growing your own and knowing what you need is Key here. Not making greedy assholes rich
medical folks have fought hard for this and the LP"s and Feds And Government , wont have it our WAY even though we are the ones who made this all possible..
Its a fucking joke beyond jokes.
PAYING FOR THINGS ANYONE CAN GROW FOR PENNIES IS BEYOND ignorant.
Having someone else pay for that when it can be done simply and easily....
On one hand I think it could be good, because as of now in the US at least, the entire market is based around commercial rec grows.. so we are in danger of losing the variety in strains, and strains that are specifically helpful to medical patients. Maybe if there is now $$$$ moving through the system bc insurance is paying for meds, then companies will actually consider these peoples needs.
I think the only real answer is teaching people to be self reliant and self sufficient. Its the only real way to know what you are getting anyway.
On the other hand, fuck the system. I want the best of both worlds. I want to grow my own for my son, and make the government let me write off all my growing eqpt, electric, and time. Not holding my breath on that tho lol.
Ya got Trump beat
ilovereggae
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I guess it is the part of US history like I explained before, to recognize that we have rights we are born with.... or the Rasta way of thinking... but to put it in the words of O.M. Robert Nesta Marley "Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, None but ourselves can free our minds..."
Once you accept and realize that we have always had the right to grow herb, until some people decided to deny that right.. in very recent history... then you will see where I am coming from that those peoples claims are invalid. And back to the original point of the thread, and my initial response... those same people have no right to tell me how many plants I should grow or how I should grow them.
The fact is that SCROG and vegging huge plants is less efficient and more time intensive than SOG. I would even go so far as to say this is oppressive against poor people who will have to spend more $ and time to get the same yield, with higher risks. It is also not as environmentally friendly since it uses more resources. If everyone accepted this, and started growing this way, the plant limits become unenforceable.
Ive grown herb on and off for 30 years since I was a teenager in high school. Im in my mid 40s now. I never respected the laws because they were wrong then, and they are wrong now. You better believe that regardless of legality in the future I will continue to grow now that it is not only for myself, but also directly impacts my sons health.
Peace
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Freedom seed
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Long time lurker here.
Printer above does not speak for all Canadians. Read section 26 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Any Right that was ever had is had today. The Supreme Court “affirmed” that. No Right is/was ever given.
Legislation can be against your rights for sure. The Cannabis Act is a great example. Our elected representatives should get to work and fix it too, doing their real job as it should be done! Representing us, and our rights.
No personal dig but I just don’t want my American brothers and sisters to think that we have lost our way. Your freedom depends on your world view.
I grew a CBD plant this year. It was actually a pheno I got from a 1:1 plant. Zero buzz. My friends all laughed at me, however it turned out to be the most valuable plant in my medicine cabinet. When mixed with something strong (Jack Herer) it brings the colour back into the buzz. Reminds me of what some of the brickweed used to do. So I tend to mix it in my meds at a 1:1 ratio and for some reason it works well.
I’m not interested in the cbd extract crystals that these products either I prefer my meds to have very little processing. Unfortunately the market has failed at that aspect so I just make it myself, coco butter, alcohol extract, etc. I would never buy factory weed I just could not trust it. Have they shown good intentions or bad? Then that is how they will be judged.
I prefer to have all the bullshit restriction gone so I can grow whatever amount of medicine I see fit.
Printer above does not speak for all Canadians. Read section 26 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Any Right that was ever had is had today. The Supreme Court “affirmed” that. No Right is/was ever given.
Legislation can be against your rights for sure. The Cannabis Act is a great example. Our elected representatives should get to work and fix it too, doing their real job as it should be done! Representing us, and our rights.
No personal dig but I just don’t want my American brothers and sisters to think that we have lost our way. Your freedom depends on your world view.
I grew a CBD plant this year. It was actually a pheno I got from a 1:1 plant. Zero buzz. My friends all laughed at me, however it turned out to be the most valuable plant in my medicine cabinet. When mixed with something strong (Jack Herer) it brings the colour back into the buzz. Reminds me of what some of the brickweed used to do. So I tend to mix it in my meds at a 1:1 ratio and for some reason it works well.
I’m not interested in the cbd extract crystals that these products either I prefer my meds to have very little processing. Unfortunately the market has failed at that aspect so I just make it myself, coco butter, alcohol extract, etc. I would never buy factory weed I just could not trust it. Have they shown good intentions or bad? Then that is how they will be judged.
I prefer to have all the bullshit restriction gone so I can grow whatever amount of medicine I see fit.
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where there is a will there is always a way..or you find that way...
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