Bernie Sanders 2020

Fogdog

Fogdog

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BurtMaklin said:
As I have been called a racist, a homosexual (faxxot) as an insult, had my words twisted to suit agendas and told to "go kill myself" by the self professed, liberal elite here, you'll have to excuse me while I hold up a mirror to the collective, bigoted hypocrisy in the room.

I wouldn't exactly call myself a "Bernie Bro", but I do like some of the things he proposes. I like the M4A and the idea of subsidized (low or no cost), post secondary education and a minimum, basic income (more of a Yang thing than a Bernie thing, but a good idea nontheless), regardless of the cost.Those are very important social equalizers that are good for minorities and marginalized peoples, including poor whites. Social programs that equalize the upward mobility and security for those affected by the rampant corruption of the very institutions that were sworn to protect them should be top of mind. I believe that every person should have the right to an equal shot at a dignified life, and the continued stacking of the deck against them is unacceptable. The farther the moderate, white Dem majority kick that ball down the road, the more unaffordable it will become. Obama dropped the ball, time to pick it back up.

I'm kinda on the fence between Bernie, Yang and Warren. Biden is a no sale, he's been part of the problem for far too long to be any sort of solution. I will be truly disappointed with America if you end up with Biden, much more disappointed than if you ended up with Bernie.

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Get over it, Burt. White men like you simply can't get over their sense of entitlement and hate being type-cast. Your kind does that to everybody. You are a Bernie Bro.

Warren and Bernie have similar social policies to the point that their differences in policy are not significant. The reason why Warren would make a good president and Bernie would not is due to the differences in education, attention to details and demonstrated ability to work well with others. At all of those attributes, Bernie sucks while Warren excels.

Bernie Bros are stuck in the past when it comes to their attitudes toward women, especially independent women who aren't compliant to the demands of your kind of guy. I support Warren who happens to be a woman but that's not a factor.
 
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BurtMaklin

BurtMaklin

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Fogdog said:
Get over it, Burt. White men like you simply can't get over their sense of entitlement and hate being type-cast. Your kind does that to everybody. You are a Bernie Bro.
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Seriously? You're the one that doesn't want to give up your privileged, private healthcare because you would have to pay it's true cost, and I'm the one who's entitled? You've spent the last 3 years being triggered by your own entitlement/privilege, yammering on about you this or you that and projecting on anyone that thinks differently or calls you out on it. I already pay for all the things you supposedly can't afford, and I advocate for more. My conscience is clear.

Just what is 78 year old Bernie's long con? He's already got a senators pension, he could live the rest of his, what, 10 years (?) in relative comfort. Do you even listen to yourself?

Lol, "He makes my skin crawl" . You sound ridiculous.

Good luck with your one vote, same as the crackhead down the street. You're not special.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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BurtMaklin said:
Seriously? You're the one that doesn't want to give up your privileged, private healthcare because you would have to pay it's true cost, and I'm the one who's entitled? You've spent the last 3 years being triggered by your own entitlement/privilege, yammering on about you this or you that and projecting on anyone that thinks differently or calls you out on it. I already pay for all the things you supposedly can't afford, and I advocate for more. My conscience is clear.

Just what is 78 year old Bernie's long con? He's already got a senators pension, he could live the rest of his, what, 10 years (?) in relative comfort. Do you even listen to yourself?

Lol, "He makes my skin crawl" . You sound ridiculous.

Good luck with your one vote, same as the crackhead down the street. You're not special.
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What are you talking about "my privilege"? Makes no sense.

Your kind hate being labeled like you do to everybody else. Bernie Bro.

Never said Bernie was a con, I said he's not a good candidate for prez because he has no ability to actually lead. He's a great social activist, though. He should stop moonlighting as one and leave the Senate so that he can go out and make a lot of noise without having to do any real work. He should leave that to Warren. Warren's plans to introduce Medicare for all make sense.
 
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schuylaar

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Rob Roy said:
Just read a headline where Obama might rebuke Bernie. Not surprised.

While I don't agree with Bernie on several things, I think his mentioning ending military aggression will have the bought and paid for military industrial complex democrats like Hillary, Obama, Biden etc. closing rank to make sure he doesn't get in.

I'd like to hear more from Bernie about ending foreign wars, and sincerely hope he changes his attitude about using guns to force people to bend to his idiotic domestic platform.
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he's our best chance by far.

Sanders is accomplished, genuine and experienced with a platform that moves us in the right direction.

He won't be the cure though, that's up to us and a democratic senate..
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Maybe one of the Democratic party loyalists can answer this

Your political strategy is to vote for someone you believe can switch Obama-Trump voters back to the Democratic party

The progressive political strategy is to offer new voters something they want so they have incentive to get involved in the political process, in other words, it's to increase voter turnout and overwhelm the amount of Republicans voting for Trump also having a secondary effect of potentially winning Republican held seats in the Senate

If your strategy wins, how will a moderate like Biden or Buttigieg get anything done with a Republican held Senate? And why would you support a moderate candidate when a progressive like Sanders out raises Joe Biden in Obama-Trump swing counties?
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Maybe a real ass hole can answer this.

You only shower once a week.

Bla Bla Bla some diatribe about how great people that aren't you conduct themselves...

If taking a shower once a week is better than this, you've played along with a leading question set within made up parameters.
 
Shua1991

Shua1991

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He's now leading in Iowa and New Hampshire, if he wins enough delegates in both, he starts the race off with an extreme advantage.


This is getting really exciting to see my predictions coming true. He will surge right before the start and carry that momentum to the general.
 
Shua1991

Shua1991

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abandonconflict said:
He's 78 and recently had a heart attack. Predicting his imminent death isn't related to mental illness, it's sound.

You're dumb. That correlates with supporting Sanders.
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You're clearly mentally ill, but that's beside the point. He's Jewish, Jews live longer than most. Ginsberg is still kicking.
 
blu3bird

blu3bird

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Padawanbater2 said:
Maybe one of the Democratic party loyalists can answer this

Your political strategy is to vote for someone you believe can switch Obama-Trump voters back to the Democratic party

The progressive political strategy is to offer new voters something they want so they have incentive to get involved in the political process, in other words, it's to increase voter turnout and overwhelm the amount of Republicans voting for Trump also having a secondary effect of potentially winning Republican held seats in the Senate

If your strategy wins, how will a moderate like Biden or Buttigieg get anything done with a Republican held Senate? And why would you support a moderate candidate when a progressive like Sanders out raises Joe Biden in Obama-Trump swing counties?
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I didn't vote for Trump last time and definitely won't do it this time, he'll be in jail anyways

So you're going to "completely overwhelm Republicans"? Well that's nice and all, but it seems like you're overlooking a key block of voters, a MAJORITY of voters known as moderates. Your oversight is going to cost you the election.

People want a moderate candidate because people want balance, you should be able to understand that. You're so far left that you've fallen of the he cliff, you're really no different than the far right.

Majority of Americans see right through the "free shit" and know better, you should too.

If you think a moderate won't get anything done, how the hell is a radical leftist going to?
 
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