Padawanbater2
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Under the leadership of Tom Perez, this is the list;
The DNC is stacking delegates incase we go to a brokered convention
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abandonconflict
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Bernie should run as an independent. He's not a democrat, why would the DNC nominate him? He's only running in order to throw this to Trump. He probably won't even be alive long enough to serve a first term. Bernie doesn't want to be president, he wants to throw the election.
LOL you're already prepping yourself for his loss and setting up the "Bernie woulda won" copout.
LOL you're already prepping yourself for his loss and setting up the "Bernie woulda won" copout.
Padawanbater2
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Why doesn't DNC leadership publicly say they oppose Sanders because he's an Independent instead of pretending like they will support the person who wins the majority of the votes in the Democratic primary? Why does the DNC continue to pretend like they support all the candidates equally when the leadership appoints nothing but establishment and Clinton surrogates to the panel incase Sanders wins a plurality?
They're there to ensure he doesn't win the nomination at all costs. If he garners a plurality and the DNC gives it to Biden anyway, Trump wins.
Sanders doesn't run as an Independent for president because it's impossible for an Independent to win
Take a second, is that really too difficult for you to understand? Nobody could run as an Independent in the political system we have and win, nobody.
You use the "he's not even a Democrat" bad faith argument because you know he's the most popular politician running, and him running as an Independent twists your panties because he doesn't kowtow to the corporate interests that have your prefered candidates by the balls.
They're there to ensure he doesn't win the nomination at all costs. If he garners a plurality and the DNC gives it to Biden anyway, Trump wins.
Sanders doesn't run as an Independent for president because it's impossible for an Independent to win
Take a second, is that really too difficult for you to understand? Nobody could run as an Independent in the political system we have and win, nobody.
You use the "he's not even a Democrat" bad faith argument because you know he's the most popular politician running, and him running as an Independent twists your panties because he doesn't kowtow to the corporate interests that have your prefered candidates by the balls.
abandonconflict
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So there has never been a third party president, ever?
Protip: It's happened at least twice.
I thought Bernie was the most popular politician ever according to some poll you posted...
Padawanbater2
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You want Sanders to run Independent because you don't want him to win
It's a bullshit argument from the start
Sanders appeal stems from him being Independent. Being Independent when two right wing parties control the narrative means he's the only progressive in congress. That's why so many people support him.
abandonconflict
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No. You clearly don't understand politics. If Sanders is as popular as you say, running as an independent would almost certainly give him the EC, just like it did for Lincoln and Roosevelt. Conversely, running in the DNC has completely blocked him from getting anywhere because most democrats don't support him. All it has achieved was to fracture the party and give the government to the GOP.
Padawanbater2
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When have I ever said Sanders was popular enough to win the EC running as an Independent?
Sanders is the most popular politician in the country based on evidence, data. That doesn't mean he would win an Independent run, or even a Democratic run in places like Mississippi or Alabama
If he ran as an Independent, he would lose, the Democratic candidate would lose, because Sanders would receive more votes from Democrats than Republicans, and the Republican would win. You would complain Sanders ran as an Independent and split the vote and gave it to the Republican, and without him running as an Independent, some generic Democrat nobody actually supports would have won.
Padawanbater2
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Look at the list, nothing but establishment shills, lobbyists, and Clinton surrogates
It's clear Tom Perez supports the Democratic establishment
The worst case scenario for the democratic establishment is Sanders receiving a plurality of votes outside the margin of error
It's clear Tom Perez supports the Democratic establishment
The worst case scenario for the democratic establishment is Sanders receiving a plurality of votes outside the margin of error
abandonconflict
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So he won the 2016 primary against Clinton?
Padawanbater2
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So why did Tom Perez appoint all these Clinton surrogates and Sanders haters to the convention committee? John Podesta, Barney Frank.. Go down the list. 90% of them supported Clinton in the last primary and have publicly stated opposition towards Sanders and his policy positions
Gee, that seems fair and equal, and not like they're trying to guarantee that if Sanders doesn't win 50.1%, they're not there to give it to Biden or the establishment shill who comes in 2nd, not at all
Gee, that seems fair and equal, and not like they're trying to guarantee that if Sanders doesn't win 50.1%, they're not there to give it to Biden or the establishment shill who comes in 2nd, not at all
Padawanbater2
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You do that and shill it to someone else, that's the end of the Democratic party as you know it, and you guarantee a Trump reelection
Unclebaldrick
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RIGGED!
Unclebaldrick
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First the establishment shills stage this impeachment hoax to keep Bernie out of Iowa and now they are appointing DEMOCRATS as delegates!
Shame!
Lol.
Shame!
Lol.
Unclebaldrick
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Yeah, because your political acumen is amazing. Tell us again how much Nancy owes all those Republicans who voted for her.
You are a joke.
Padawanbater2
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They're appointing corporate, Democratic establishment shills who happen to be Democrats. The only argument you can foster against Sanders is that he doesn't campaign as a Democrat, even though he caucuses with them, because the Democratic party is a center right party, and he's an actual progressive. He's the most popular politician in the country for a reason, while the rest of congress, except for AOC, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and the other actual progressives within the party, while blue dogs and third way coalitions are fading into obscurity.
They can't win if the terms are fair, they know it, you know it
They can't win if the terms are fair, they know it, you know it
Unclebaldrick
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You can tell that the list is racist too, because it has no Nina Turner's on it.
Stop your fucking whining. If Bernie is the so popular, he will have no problem securing the nomination.
Padawanbater2
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If the moderate centrism you support were so popular, the neoliberals wouldn't need to stack the deck against progressives, even if the alternative is fascism under Donald Trump
hanimmal
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Maybe the DNC is just not a fan of another Russian pushed candidate that will lose them the House and Senate to the Russian funded Republicans in 2020?
Unclebaldrick
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I support the Democratic nominee, unlike you.
abandonconflict
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I support stacking delegates against Bernie.