Hi all! Thank you for the forum!
First to introduce myself, I have been a lifelong hash-smoker, but gave that up many years ago... So smoking isn't why I found my way here.
I live in Norway where insight about cannabis is about zero, and people still think its mostly the same as Heroin… (Thank you UN…)
Here we are not even allowed to grow industrial Hemp, and people are still held in the dark about what happened in the US in the early 1900's, and the REAL benefit of this plant and its estimated 50 000 different uses...
Due to changes with cannabis laws elsewhere in the world, and that the enormous CBD-business have even reached our borders, it IS getting a bit more "possible" to talk about cannabis though! YEY! As it seems to be everywhere, it is still all about medical use though, and our government seems completely in the leash of the pharmaceutical industry, but still a step in the right direction!
-For myself and my closest surrounding, the big thing is this CBD-boom has led to that I can finally talk with my family about this amazing plant! and I have high hopes this could actually help my loved ones with serious medical problems!!
Their interest for cannabis as medical drug has certainly gain interest due to the talk about those "close to legal" CBD products from hemp! And I am eager to follow up on this with "the real deal"!
I still now little about medical use, as I said I have only been a "recreational smoker" all my life, but lately I have been reading about it quite a lot, and I understand that "modern science" insight about our endocannabinoid system is actually quite new knowledge.
Reading about it, it seems quite clear that it is the complete interaction of ALL parts of the plant that makes miracles though. And even if science cannot explain it all, it seems quite clear that its this ENTOURAGE-EFFECT we want to grasp for medical use!
To me this also makes sense in the matter of it all being "an act of balancing"!...
So, I have been seeing this Canadian guy Rick Simpson doing an amazing job fighting community with what I understand only small amounts of knowledge, but with believes and proof that people really can get amazing results just by ingesting raw oil! With cannabis probably being around for the life of all mankind, of course this guy does not provide us with any big news, but I understand the main point of his, is to proof that it IS available for everyone. (Also Canada for a fact actually have changed their laws lately!..)
Trying to find extracted oil, and to get a better understanding of extraction methods pros and cons, I find it hard to grasp what really is the best way to extract cannabis for medical use?… Most all information is all about cannabis as a recreational drug and extraction is meant for smoking and vaping, and then is of course all about flavours, taste and function.
And when the big companies talk about their medical drugs it all seems to be about extracting clean components, and then putting a few of those components together in exact measurements in a lab…
This seem quite poor when we know that the plant produces way over 100 different cannabinoids! Plus all other components (that I neither know nothing about….)
I like that RSO in the matter of taking the plant for what it is! And when it comes to eating half a grain oil three times a day, I really do not care about neither what it tastes or how I looks!!... But of course, I am not into digesting naphtha! And I do not want to lose important ingredients due to shortcuts! So when people tells this is really not a good way of extraction, I want to learn more about other ways!
So I read that another way better method is this simple QWISO method, that with a much more clean approach collect more or less the same amount of trichomes! -But then this also seem to be the ONLY purpose with QWISO? Or am I wrong?..
I did find an article with the interesting olive oil extraction method, that seem to be very gentle and might give exactly what we are looking for to be a medical decoction?. But then again it might not be much of an extraction?...
I am also thinking It might be beneficial to combine different methods. E.g. extracting (or buying) "pure" THC oil for example with the qwiso method, and mixing it with "pure" CBD oil from hemp, with all the other cannabinoids and stuff?
Also, I understand decarbing does cost the loss of terpenes, so I am thinking you could also get that part back in the game by combining two ore more kind of oils?...
As you understand I am a complete noob about this, so any help about what the recommended approach for making oil for pure medical use is very appreciated!
I am quite convinced we should NOT look away from the ENTOURAGE-EFFECT though!...
I'll try to add an interesting lab-test .pdf article I have found comparing extraction methods.
Any comments are appreciated.
Thank you!
/Orre
Ps. As a noob I found most links in the newbie 101 are dead...
Edited some bad English spelling and such...
First to introduce myself, I have been a lifelong hash-smoker, but gave that up many years ago... So smoking isn't why I found my way here.
I live in Norway where insight about cannabis is about zero, and people still think its mostly the same as Heroin… (Thank you UN…)
Here we are not even allowed to grow industrial Hemp, and people are still held in the dark about what happened in the US in the early 1900's, and the REAL benefit of this plant and its estimated 50 000 different uses...
Due to changes with cannabis laws elsewhere in the world, and that the enormous CBD-business have even reached our borders, it IS getting a bit more "possible" to talk about cannabis though! YEY! As it seems to be everywhere, it is still all about medical use though, and our government seems completely in the leash of the pharmaceutical industry, but still a step in the right direction!
-For myself and my closest surrounding, the big thing is this CBD-boom has led to that I can finally talk with my family about this amazing plant! and I have high hopes this could actually help my loved ones with serious medical problems!!
Their interest for cannabis as medical drug has certainly gain interest due to the talk about those "close to legal" CBD products from hemp! And I am eager to follow up on this with "the real deal"!
I still now little about medical use, as I said I have only been a "recreational smoker" all my life, but lately I have been reading about it quite a lot, and I understand that "modern science" insight about our endocannabinoid system is actually quite new knowledge.
Reading about it, it seems quite clear that it is the complete interaction of ALL parts of the plant that makes miracles though. And even if science cannot explain it all, it seems quite clear that its this ENTOURAGE-EFFECT we want to grasp for medical use!
To me this also makes sense in the matter of it all being "an act of balancing"!...
So, I have been seeing this Canadian guy Rick Simpson doing an amazing job fighting community with what I understand only small amounts of knowledge, but with believes and proof that people really can get amazing results just by ingesting raw oil! With cannabis probably being around for the life of all mankind, of course this guy does not provide us with any big news, but I understand the main point of his, is to proof that it IS available for everyone. (Also Canada for a fact actually have changed their laws lately!..)
Trying to find extracted oil, and to get a better understanding of extraction methods pros and cons, I find it hard to grasp what really is the best way to extract cannabis for medical use?… Most all information is all about cannabis as a recreational drug and extraction is meant for smoking and vaping, and then is of course all about flavours, taste and function.
And when the big companies talk about their medical drugs it all seems to be about extracting clean components, and then putting a few of those components together in exact measurements in a lab…
This seem quite poor when we know that the plant produces way over 100 different cannabinoids! Plus all other components (that I neither know nothing about….)
I like that RSO in the matter of taking the plant for what it is! And when it comes to eating half a grain oil three times a day, I really do not care about neither what it tastes or how I looks!!... But of course, I am not into digesting naphtha! And I do not want to lose important ingredients due to shortcuts! So when people tells this is really not a good way of extraction, I want to learn more about other ways!
So I read that another way better method is this simple QWISO method, that with a much more clean approach collect more or less the same amount of trichomes! -But then this also seem to be the ONLY purpose with QWISO? Or am I wrong?..
I did find an article with the interesting olive oil extraction method, that seem to be very gentle and might give exactly what we are looking for to be a medical decoction?. But then again it might not be much of an extraction?...
I am also thinking It might be beneficial to combine different methods. E.g. extracting (or buying) "pure" THC oil for example with the qwiso method, and mixing it with "pure" CBD oil from hemp, with all the other cannabinoids and stuff?
Also, I understand decarbing does cost the loss of terpenes, so I am thinking you could also get that part back in the game by combining two ore more kind of oils?...
As you understand I am a complete noob about this, so any help about what the recommended approach for making oil for pure medical use is very appreciated!
I am quite convinced we should NOT look away from the ENTOURAGE-EFFECT though!...
I'll try to add an interesting lab-test .pdf article I have found comparing extraction methods.
Any comments are appreciated.
Thank you!
/Orre
Ps. As a noob I found most links in the newbie 101 are dead...
Edited some bad English spelling and such...
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