Slow bud growth

[Cannabis_king]

Need some advise I’m in week 6 of flower with my white widow photo and my buds are looking really small compared to what they should looked up online and I think I’ve put my lights to close to the top of my canopy and it’s been taking in to much light so I’m going to raise them but I’m just wondering will my buds still grow as big and will just take longer to get the outcome I want and stuff or have I stuffed it and they arnt gonna be as big as they would have any info is appreciated

 

[Cannabis_king]

I hope they will still grow big

 

[CannaCountry]

I would do three things:

1. Check your light cycle; make sure it's where you want it and that your timer is working correctly.
2. Check for light leaks and eliminate any you find.
3. Be patient...you'll have a decent enough harvest.

Good luck

 

[jdog127]

IF your plants appear happy healthy and vibrant green, and your environment is dialed in, it has to be 1 of 2.
1.) And chances are-----> You just have a very long flowering sativa that may even push into 12 weeks, it's rare but some go that long, so you may be only be half way through flowering. OR
2.) weak or bad genetics.

Though I will say at week 6, those bud SHOULD be fatter. BUUUUUTTTTT that doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong.

But in order to give you a better response, we need a little more info....well a lot actually.
what lights are you using and how many
How many plants are you growing and how big is your grow space.
what is your grow medium and size of pots using? Size of pot could be an issue. I'll just assume it's not. 3gal or over, you should be fine.
are you organic or salts?
What nutes do you use and how much per feeding (ppm) and how often
do you PH your water?
when do you water, or how often.
what are your normal running temp/humidity <---and are these numbers consistance and not jumping all over the place over a 24hr period.

 

[tslonige]

My WW usually flowers for 11 weeks. They say 9 but I have never had one finish then.

 

[Dr. Who]

I would do three things:

1. Check your light cycle; make sure it's where you want it and that your timer is working correctly.
2. Check for light leaks and eliminate any you find.
3. Be patient...you'll have a decent enough harvest.

Good luck

I agree here. The pictures tell me some lighting time may have been/is off some.

The other thing I would look at is your tent temps. Looks possibly like they are running hot.

I might ask what NPK value are you feeding right now?
What nutrient line?
How much, and how often?

White widow is so yesterday. It never did make it past testing...

 

[OldMedUser]

The plants are nice and green and healthy looking so I'm wondering what they get to eat myself. Not enough P and K during the stretch will slow bud development as will low light levels.

I've only grown WW that was crossed with Train Wreck and got big colas off her/him/it even tho it hermed on me around week 6 or 7. Took 12 weeks to finish so you may be seeing the buds start filling out in a couple more weeks with real fattening up the last couple weeks so don't crop too soon.

If you have bloom nutes or a good bloom booster some of that may help.

 

[Cannabis_king]

IF your plants appear happy healthy and vibrant green, and your environment is dialed in, it has to be 1 of 2.
1.) And chances are-----> You just have a very long flowering sativa that may even push into 12 weeks, it's rare but some go that long, so you may be only be half way through flowering. OR
2.) weak or bad genetics.

Though I will say at week 6, those bud SHOULD be fatter. BUUUUUTTTTT that doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong.

But in order to give you a better response, we need a little more info....well a lot actually.
what lights are you using and how many
How many plants are you growing and how big is your grow space.
what is your grow medium and size of pots using? Size of pot could be an issue. I'll just assume it's not. 3gal or over, you should be fine.
are you organic or salts?
What nutes do you use and how much per feeding (ppm) and how often
do you PH your water?
when do you water, or how often.
what are your normal running temp/humidity <---and are these numbers consistance and not jumping all over the place over a 24hr period.

I’m running 3 150w lights just cheap ones I got them given to me so don’t know much about them I’m growing 2 plants in a 0.8 tent it’s small but it gets the job done I’m growing with coco the lemon haze I’m growing is in a 30L pot and I’m pretty sure the white widow is in a 30 or 20L pot I’m using growth technology as my bloom nutes also using rock resanator, silica, bud burst, oxyplus, uc roots. I use about 3 to 4L per feeding every day or 2 I ph my water to 6.0 to 6.2 my temps are usually around 27 degrees and 50%rh and yeah my temps and rh are usually pretty consistent

 

[Cannabis_king]

Cheers for the help guys

 

[Cannabis_king]

The plants are nice and green and healthy looking so I'm wondering what they get to eat myself. Not enough P and K during the stretch will slow bud development as will low light levels.

I've only grown WW that was crossed with Train Wreck and got big colas off her/him/it even tho it hermed on me around week 6 or 7. Took 12 weeks to finish so you may be seeing the buds start filling out in a couple more weeks with real fattening up the last couple weeks so don't crop too soon.

If you have bloom nutes or a good bloom booster some of that may help.

Do you think it would help if I put my lights on 11/13 light schedule?

 

[Oblivi0us]

I see some nitrogen claw in there and very dark green. I’d suggest lessening the nitrogen levels some and making sure they are getting enough k and p

 

[Richard Drysift]

I’m running 3 150w lights just cheap ones I got them given to me so don’t know much about them I’m growing 2 plants in a 0.8 tent it’s small but it gets the job done I’m growing with coco the lemon haze I’m growing is in a 30L pot and I’m pretty sure the white widow is in a 30 or 20L pot I’m using growth technology as my bloom nutes also using rock resanator, silica, bud burst, oxyplus, uc roots. I use about 3 to 4L per feeding every day or 2 I ph my water to 6.0 to 6.2 my temps are usually around 27 degrees and 50%rh and yeah my temps and rh are usually pretty consistent

It doesn't matter how much or what you feed them. Wattage governs yields. You can manipulate the light cycle, LST train for yield (i.e. Super/Monster cropping), and give a good long veg but you can't grow big bud without sufficient lighting.
You still have a long way to go; these appear to be closer to week 4 than week 6 to me. But if you are still not happy with the bud mass after this harvest consider a lighting upgrade. A single source with higher wattage is much more effective than several low watt lights and more efficient in the long run.

 

[OldMedUser]

Do you think it would help if I put my lights on 11/13 light schedule?

If anything you want 13 hours of light, 11 dark. Buds need light to grow so I flip to 11/13 then after flower starts in a week or so add 15min every few days until up to 13.5 light. Or just good old 12/12. Been working forever.

What exactly are those 150s you are using? If HID/HPS exactly what type, make etc of bulb?

I'm pretty sure that is a long flowering strain so is only about half way thru flowering. Plenty of time to fatten up. If you had of kept good track of the stretch period you could calculate out a pretty good guesstimate of the total flowering time. The ratio is 40/60 with the 40 being time to stretch from the time you flipped. Pretty hard to judge exactly when the stretch is over tho.

 

[Cannabis_king]

If anything you want 13 hours of light, 11 dark. Buds need light to grow so I flip to 11/13 then after flower starts in a week or so add 15min every few days until up to 13.5 light. Or just good old 12/12. Been working forever.

What exactly are those 150s you are using? If HID/HPS exactly what type, make etc of bulb?

I'm pretty sure that is a long flowering strain so is only about half way thru flowering. Plenty of time to fatten up. If you had of kept good track of the stretch period you could calculate out a pretty good guesstimate of the total flowering time. The ratio is 40/60 with the 40 being time to stretch from the time you flipped. Pretty hard to judge exactly when the stretch is over tho.

Just led lights not sure what brand or anything like that and I wanted to upgrade to hps or any other sort of light but I can’t afford it atm do you think I’ll be fine and she will keep fattening up? And is there anything I should do I will check back in in about a week or so and hopefully she’s fattened up a bit cheers for the helps guys

 

[OldMedUser]

Just led lights not sure what brand or anything like that and I wanted to upgrade to hps or any other sort of light but I can’t afford it atm do you think I’ll be fine and she will keep fattening up? And is there anything I should do I will check back in in about a week or so and hopefully she’s fattened up a bit cheers for the helps guys

She should fatten up more. Hard to tell but it's healthy and other than seeming to be a little behind the curve it looks good.

If you had clones of her then you could grow them out with different lighting and tell for sure if it makes a real difference. You could try revegging her after you crop then grow her all over again and/or take some clones if she does switch back to veg. I always take cuttings from plants just in case one turns out to be really good then I can grow more. I had 12 different plants in my last grow and am still nursing 24 clones for the last 7 months. I took two from each plant and they all rooted. I'm keeping them under a home made LED bulb fixture I made with 11 - 9w LED bulbs with the tops popped off. Time to repot some and get them down in the main grow room flowering so I can spray some with STS and get some female pollen to make fem seeds with.



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[JohnDee]

White widow is so yesterday. It never did make it past testing...

I have to disagree, I like the Widow. But I have specific interests...Widow is the best strain there is for sex...nothing compares.

@Cannabis king You may try and reduce N...not as important in bloom and can even slow down flowering.
JD

 

[Cannabis_king]

She should fatten up more. Hard to tell but it's healthy and other than seeming to be a little behind the curve it looks good.

If you had clones of her then you could grow them out with different lighting and tell for sure if it makes a real difference. You could try revegging her after you crop then grow her all over again and/or take some clones if she does switch back to veg. I always take cuttings from plants just in case one turns out to be really good then I can grow more. I had 12 different plants in my last grow and am still nursing 24 clones for the last 7 months. I took two from each plant and they all rooted. I'm keeping them under a home made LED bulb fixture I made with 11 - 9w LED bulbs with the tops popped off. Time to repot some and get them down in the main grow room flowering so I can spray some with STS and get some female pollen to make fem seeds with.

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I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS. I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books look great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as many are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

It’s weird for some reason the top of my colas are really small but the bud sites under them are growing much more not sure what to think of this and I agree I love white widow the smell that is coming off this plant is fkn beautiful I just really hope she fattens up a whole lot more

 

[Cannabis_king]

Can only help me i wanna lower my nitrogen levels but the nitrogen is in my bloom bottle so how do I lower it should I just lower how much I put in?

 

[OldMedUser]

Can only help me i wanna lower my nitrogen levels but the nitrogen is in my bloom bottle so how do I lower it should I just lower how much I put in?

Just use Part B but twice as much as you won't have Part A. I'm not sure what bottle is in the pic. With 2-part nutes you are supposed to use equal amounts of both to feed so if not using A then you want twice as much as the amount of B. Not the maximum it says tho as in later flower plants aren't eating all that much like they were in late veg/early flower. That would give you a similar level of nutrients as using the Lucas Formula method with 3-part nutes where you drop the Grow and use half as much Micro as you do Bloom. With that you should add extra Mg and something else I can't recall atm.

If that bottle is Part B it has good levels of NPK for later flowering and most of the micro-nutrients other than Ca and Fe. Iron isn't usually a problem and most CalMag has Fe in it but most has N as well so it's puts you back to using more N than you want but at a much lower dose than if you used the Part A. A good way to get extra calcium and Mg is to add some dolomite lime to your media before using it. If you repot just before flowering adding some gypsum gives Ca and S and with some dolomite you have all that covered with zero added N. I have both and it pellitized so I'll put a Tbsp/5gal of media into my mortar and pestle and pound it down to a finer grind before mixing it in. It breaks down slowly compared to what you get in bottles. People should use it in coco and peat based media to keep the pH nicely balanced plus supply needed Ca, Mg and S.

It’s weird for some reason the top of my colas are really small but the bud sites under them are growing much more not sure what to think of this and I agree I love white widow the smell that is coming off this plant is fkn beautiful I just really hope she fattens up a whole lot more

Sativas dominants always have spiky tops but can fatten up huge! My fave sativa I grew for years was Kali Mist. The high was so intense I would have anxiety attacks if I just hit a little too much in the pipe. I'm talking 2 one hit tokes in a small pipe. If the chunks were just a little oversize it was nasty for 15-20 minutes then settled down and my depression was gone! I crossed it with NL#5 and the right pheno does a great job of clearing my depression for a few hours with one or two hits and never a hint of anxiety. That is one cross I want to cross with a couple of the hi-CBD strains I have. I think I have a few Kali seeds left so I can try crossing that with CBD if they still sprout.

A pic of Baby Sally 10 years ago. Straight Kali Mist from Marc Emery's old seed bank c.2000. Note how pointy the tops are. Still a couple weeks to go out of a 14 week flower. Long time to wait but well worth it. My NL#5 is from the same time.

 

[Dr. Who]

I have to disagree, I like the Widow. But I have specific interests...Widow is the best strain there is for sex...nothing compares.

@Cannabis king You may try and reduce N...not as important in bloom and can even slow down flowering.
JD

We all have our druthers. It just never did anything for me...
The "sex" thing is reported but, sex is good period. Don't need a mind altering substance make it better! In fact, I find it better without....Rather focus on the work at hand. Makes her happier, and that equals more repeat performances..