The Impeachment Of Donald Trump

Bugeye

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FIFY

Where's the background information that you referred to here?
Barack Obama
The Obama administration asserted executive privilege in June 2012 in response to a House investigation of Operation Fast and Furious, a controversial “gunwalking” operation in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed the running of guns in hopes that they could be tracked to Mexican drug cartel figures.
House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) demanded documents relating to the Justice Department’s response to the operation, which Attorney General Eric Holder refused to provide.
The committee voted 23-17 to hold Holder in contempt of Congress for his failure to release the documents, with the full chamber voting in favor of contempt 255-67.
The Justice Department cited executive privilege again to decline to prosecute him on the contempt charge.
Nearly four years later, District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled against Obama’s assertion of executive privilege, writing that existing disclosures relating to the operation cast doubt on the idea that the documents at issue must remain confidential.
"The Department itself has already publicly revealed the sum and substance of the very material it is now seeking to withhold,” she wrote. “Since any harm that would flow from the disclosures sought here would be merely incremental, the records must be produced."
The administration turned over the records in April 2016.

 

Justin-case

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Barack Obama
The Obama administration asserted executive privilege in June 2012 in response to a House investigation of Operation Fast and Furious, a controversial “gunwalking” operation in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed the running of guns in hopes that they could be tracked to Mexican drug cartel figures.
House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) demanded documents relating to the Justice Department’s response to the operation, which Attorney General Eric Holder refused to provide.
The committee voted 23-17 to hold Holder in contempt of Congress for his failure to release the documents, with the full chamber voting in favor of contempt 255-67.
The Justice Department cited executive privilege again to decline to prosecute him on the contempt charge.
Nearly four years later, District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled against Obama’s assertion of executive privilege, writing that existing disclosures relating to the operation cast doubt on the idea that the documents at issue must remain confidential.
"The Department itself has already publicly revealed the sum and substance of the very material it is now seeking to withhold,” she wrote. “Since any harm that would flow from the disclosures sought here would be merely incremental, the records must be produced."
The administration turned over the records in April 2016.

Chief Justice Warren Burger wrote. “The generalized assertion of privilege must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial.”


Fisa retard, are you for congressional oversight, or not?
 

Bugeye

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They're only valid for 90 days or so, fisa tard.

Also, Carter page was working for the CIA, I think his case is unique and not fully disclosed.
Let me help you. We will go with the Uber liberal CNN.

 

Fogdog

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Barack Obama
The Obama administration asserted executive privilege in June 2012 in response to a House investigation of Operation Fast and Furious, a controversial “gunwalking” operation in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed the running of guns in hopes that they could be tracked to Mexican drug cartel figures.
House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) demanded documents relating to the Justice Department’s response to the operation, which Attorney General Eric Holder refused to provide.
The committee voted 23-17 to hold Holder in contempt of Congress for his failure to release the documents, with the full chamber voting in favor of contempt 255-67.
The Justice Department cited executive privilege again to decline to prosecute him on the contempt charge.
Nearly four years later, District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled against Obama’s assertion of executive privilege, writing that existing disclosures relating to the operation cast doubt on the idea that the documents at issue must remain confidential.
"The Department itself has already publicly revealed the sum and substance of the very material it is now seeking to withhold,” she wrote. “Since any harm that would flow from the disclosures sought here would be merely incremental, the records must be produced."
The administration turned over the records in April 2016.

None of those other fights involved a president who refused to turn over evidence lawfully demanded by an impeachment hearing due to the president soliciting a bribe for personal political gain in exchange for removing an unlawfully imposed blockage of national security funds.

What Trump is saying is that Congress may not investigate crimes he committed while in office. He can say it but that doesn't make him right.

To make your argument worse, in all those other cases, the president either lost in court or caved to demands. What a shitty argument.

You Republicans have become nothing more than gangsters trying to beat a rap by whatever means available. Your citation
 

Sir Napsalot

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hanimmal

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Barack Obama
The Obama administration asserted executive privilege in June 2012 in response to a House investigation of Operation Fast and Furious, a controversial “gunwalking” operation in which the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives allowed the running of guns in hopes that they could be tracked to Mexican drug cartel figures.
House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) demanded documents relating to the Justice Department’s response to the operation, which Attorney General Eric Holder refused to provide.
The committee voted 23-17 to hold Holder in contempt of Congress for his failure to release the documents, with the full chamber voting in favor of contempt 255-67.
The Justice Department cited executive privilege again to decline to prosecute him on the contempt charge.
Nearly four years later, District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled against Obama’s assertion of executive privilege, writing that existing disclosures relating to the operation cast doubt on the idea that the documents at issue must remain confidential.
"The Department itself has already publicly revealed the sum and substance of the very material it is now seeking to withhold,” she wrote. “Since any harm that would flow from the disclosures sought here would be merely incremental, the records must be produced."
The administration turned over the records in April 2016.

Trump has a blankey no documents/witnesses, or total obstruction of congress. Obama did not, they sent documents and witnesses and claimed executive privilege on the remainder, when the congress elevated it, they turned the rest over. The Republicans and your stance are completely disingenuous.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-18524414
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FISA warrants against Carter Page are now found to be invalid. The ones filed by the FBI, lol.
So Bill Barr is retroactively giving his online troll army some bullshit to try to take away from the fact that Trump has been breaking the law.

Shocker.

Oh wait:
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It was the last two which were under Trump's DOJ that were changed that were thrown out. It makes sense since Trump's minions wanted to get some cover he had illegal shit done to cause some smoke.

Bugeye, Brad Parscale is going to go to jail for spreading this kind of shit out through you guys trolling for Trump.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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According To Alan Dershowitz, Anything Trump Does Is Legal If It's Done In Pursuit Of His Reelect…

Donald Trump's impeachment defense attorney, Alan Dershowitz, took to the Senate lectern today with an argument reminiscent of Richard Nixon's declaration, "when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."
 
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