Knowurhyphae
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Anyone out there with banked pollen from studs or reversed plants? How come websites don't sell it? It's not like there is anything active in it.
Banked pollen
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Father Ramirez
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I’ve successfully pollinated girls with freshly collected dust from males, but every attempt to store and use it later has failed to be viable. I think I may have been putting it up too moist.
Knowurhyphae
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I did google search and found one place that said they sold it but everything was out of stock.
It could be cheaper to grow out a regular seeds and run a random male but not all males are studs.
I would have to grow out 25-50 seeds to find the male i wanted and even if the seeds were free that is a lot of time and real estate.
Such a huge market it surprising to me that no one is tapping it.
Im positive people would buy reversed pollen to make their own feminized seeds.
It could be cheaper to grow out a regular seeds and run a random male but not all males are studs.
I would have to grow out 25-50 seeds to find the male i wanted and even if the seeds were free that is a lot of time and real estate.
Such a huge market it surprising to me that no one is tapping it.
Im positive people would buy reversed pollen to make their own feminized seeds.
conor c
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Holyseedbank sells pollen mainly fem stuff tho its sold in 0.1 n 0.5 of a gram increments aint cheap would be cheaper to reverse your own but if u dont have time or space i can see people using it i think the main reason most dont sell pollen is cos same reason many dont release there parental stock thats there tools hence its hoarded
Pollen denatures easily with water (whether you can see the water or not). That's why I don't bother to store any.
conor c
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Yeah i can imagine it being a pain to store for any length of time possible but not the easiest
It would be a nice service to have available if you could trust the source.
conor c
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Agreed i cant vouch for there stuff personally yet i aint tried em would be good if its up to scratch and run right tho
xtsho
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Best thing to do is just buy some regular seeds for some males or reverse a female using STS. I prefer making regular seeds I don't have any need for feminized seed. However, I do occasionally make feminized seeds to give to friends that grow. Either way is easy and will produce more pollen than most people will need. If stored properly it can be kept for over a year in the freezer. Now if you can freeze it quick enough and store it below -50° C then it could last for decades. But You'll need something like a low temp laboratory freezer to maintain that temperature. Home freezers only cool to around -20°C. But you'll also need a reliable generator in case the power goes out. You could also spend $25K on a cryogenic storage unit and deal with liquid nitrogen like they use for storing sperm and embryos.
The easiest and most reliable method of obtaining pollen is to just make it yourself.
The easiest and most reliable method of obtaining pollen is to just make it yourself.
That's served me well.Best thing to do is just buy some regular seeds for some males or reverse a female using STS. I prefer making regular seeds I don't have any need for feminized seed. However, I do occasionally make feminized seeds to give to friends that grow. Either way is easy and will produce more pollen than most people will need. If stored properly it can be kept for over a year in the freezer. Now if you can freeze it quick enough and store it below -50° C then it could last for decades. But You'll need something like a low temp laboratory freezer to maintain that temperature. Home freezers only cool to around -20°C. But you'll also need a reliable generator in case the power goes out. You could also spend $25K on a cryogenic storage unit and deal with liquid nitrogen like they use for storing sperm and embryos.
The easiest and most reliable method of obtaining pollen is to just make it yourself.
Knowurhyphae
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Just wanted to throw out there from what i read pollen can be diluted upwards of 30% with corn starch. Its helps spread it around the plant quicker and helps with the shelf life.
Stickyfingerz5
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I’ve also been looking and have had no luck. I remember seeing some in a dispensary in Colorado but had never heard of the strain. Still wish I would have gotten some.
Dr. Who
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Other half of the story...Best thing to do is just buy some regular seeds for some males or reverse a female using STS. I prefer making regular seeds I don't have any need for feminized seed. However, I do occasionally make feminized seeds to give to friends that grow. Either way is easy and will produce more pollen than most people will need. If stored properly it can be kept for over a year in the freezer. Now if you can freeze it quick enough and store it below -50° C then it could last for decades. But You'll need something like a low temp laboratory freezer to maintain that temperature. Home freezers only cool to around -20°C. But you'll also need a reliable generator in case the power goes out. You could also spend $25K on a cryogenic storage unit and deal with liquid nitrogen like they use for storing sperm and embryos.
The easiest and most reliable method of obtaining pollen is to just make it yourself.
A year is really the upper limit.
Most only keep it around for 6 months. It degrades after that, on a sliding scale.
The biggest issue to home keepers is moisture! PERIOD!!
There are no working "home made fix's" that are effective enough, in keeping the stored pollen dry (crackers, rice etc. Those are mostly myth or low in effectiveness.
The real problem comes up in defrosting it without condensation....
The only real successful thing I've tried? Use a commercial desiccant - in with the pollen. Another bag with more desiccant and then vac seal.
Never just take it from the freezer and throw it on the counter.. Defrost in steps and the same to bring it to room tamp afterwords.
Nuke it = equals coked it dead....
xtsho
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Interesting because that's basically what I do. I have a few different sizes of small plastic tubes that have airtight tops. I store my pollen in them along with some of those silica gel desiccant balls. That container then gets vacuum packed with several desiccant packs and then vacuum packed again for a double bag. That then goes into an airtight container with more desiccant packs and into the chest freezer.
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I use 2/3 dry baking flour to 1/3 pollen, and store it in the cold cellar in my basement along with my seed collection. The flour binds to the pollen and minimizes its ability to float around everywhere when I'm applying it.
I've successfully stored pollen for a year and used it successfully. I have pollen stored from five years ago that I just pollenated a plant with yesterday, so I'm yet unaware whether it's viable.
Just three days ago, I stared a colloidal silver regime on a Blueberry x Afghani #1 strain I created a few years ago for pollen that I'll apply to a female of the same strain for more of that strain's fem seeds.
Father Ramirez
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I can’t speak to the science of this claim about extended shelf life, but it rings true, as my difficulty has always been excess moisture carried into storage.
When pollinating female flowers, I have sometimes shaken an entire male, but more frequently use a Qtip to surgically pollinate selective flowers, and then cover those colas in cheesecloth until harvest.
A curious topic has been stirred; perhaps there is a market for reliable, viable pollen
@Knowurhyphae, thanks for bringing this up
I'll be curious to hear about the 5 y/o pollens efficacy.
Tangerine_
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I cant recall which member is was but they took a large batch of pollen and separated it into several folded envelopes. I really like this idea because it allows you to pull out one "pack" at a time for use, decreasing the chance of condensation
I'll search and see if I can find the pic.
Edit. Found it. Full credit goes to @Sour Wreck for great a storage tech.
I'll search and see if I can find the pic.
Edit. Found it. Full credit goes to @Sour Wreck for great a storage tech.
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