plants lookin awful weird roots

[louiedogg]

hey guys, ill post a few pics but had a few questions about what defficiency i gots. and my roots arent growing into the water their growing like outwards from the netpot. before i remember the roots just loved being in the water from.another grow.

heres some info

25 gal system rdwc

gh flora trio nutes
ro water
cal mag
bleach 10ml
water temp is 65-69f
air temp been 60f-83f

ppm is around 900 and ph was 5.3.
ive since lowered ppm to 680 and ph is now 5.8.
plants just look sad, not sure what i should do.

 

[louiedogg]

its like the roots are scared to submerge themselves

 

[Airwalker16]

Are you mixing your CaliMagic into the water very first?
Like if you're mixing 20 gals worth, you can use a 5gal jug with 2-3gals of water in it so there's room to shake. You can add the full 20gals worth(50-100ml) needed into that small 2gals of water. But calimagic has to be very first and mixed really well. Then same thing for Flora Micro, MIX, then the FloraGro, MIX, Then lastly Flora bloom, MIX.

 

[OldMedUser]

That's pretty strange alright. It's got to be some sort of root disease.

I'd get some food grade peroxide instead of bleach. At the dose of bleach you state it's pretty low. I always used 35% peroxide at 0.5ml/L twice a week for a regular dose. Bleach is only 5% so 10ml is not much.

I always added my CalMag last and never had problems but I do put it in first now. Then micro etc. If I'm using silica then that goes first, pH down then the CalMag.

 

[Airwalker16]

Silica and DWC don't mix

 

[OldMedUser]

Silica and DWC don't mix

Where'd ya hear that?

I've used it in at least the last 30 of 50 DWC tubs and I liked it. So did the plants.

 

[myke]

Water level to net pots?How does solution recirculate?

 

[louiedogg]

Water level to net pots?How does solution recirculate?

about an inch under the netpots, i have a 700 gph pump running inline pulling back into the rez

 

[fragileassassin]

Dyna-Gro Pro-Tekt is silica and its the biggest part the cloner solution I use.
Megacrop has potassium silicate.

IMO, raise the water level up to the bottom of the pots so the roots are submerged and see what happens over the next few days.

 

[louiedogg]

Dyna-Gro Pro-Tekt is silica and its the biggest part the cloner solution I use.
Megacrop has potassium silicate.

IMO, raise the water level up to the bottom of the pots so the roots are submerged and see what happens over the next few days.

ok i did the opposite lmao i lowered my water..

im gonna do a full on rez change cleaning tonight, n ill raise the water lvl

seen they got some 35% hydrogen peroxide at walmart, will swing by after work and give that a try.

 

[OldMedUser]

The roots don't have to be submerged if you have air stones under them. The popping bubbles keep the roots wet in the same way aeroponics does and that works great. Mine always ran an inch to 4" under the pots and I got lots of roots.

 

[SnidleyBluntash]

It’s the bleach. Too concentrated

 

[louiedogg]

It’s the bleach. Too concentrated

i read that bleach works good in rdwc? but i believe you are right

 

[louiedogg]

The roots don't have to be submerged if you have air stones under them. The popping bubbles keep the roots wet in the same way aeroponics does and that works great. Mine always ran an inch to 4" under the pots and I got lots of roots.

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i know ive done single stand alone buckets last year and they werent shy thy doce right in the water, these plants are 2 months old.. nothing but problems with them.

its my first rdwc run so idk new strain as well.

 

[OldMedUser]

It’s the bleach. Too concentrated

How is 10ml of 5% bleach in 25gal too concentrated? Not enough to clean your willy. Any bleach in my plants is too much tho.

 

[fragileassassin]

ok i did the opposite lmao i lowered my water..

im gonna do a full on rez change cleaning tonight, n ill raise the water lvl

seen they got some 35% hydrogen peroxide at walmart, will swing by after work and give that a try.

this isnt necessarily a solution. more of a see what happens thing. They dont seem to want to go in the water, so make them and see what happens.
100% your call though.
I also dont think your bleach is too high. I just did some looking and that appears to be a fairly common dosing range.

 

[Lpena007]

ok i did the opposite lmao i lowered my water..

im gonna do a full on rez change cleaning tonight, n ill raise the water lvl

seen they got some 35% hydrogen peroxide at walmart, will swing by after work and give that a try.

Did they have some? I need some too

 

[louiedogg]

Did they have some? I need some too

no i realized it was online only.. im in canada btw

 

[louiedogg]

this isnt necessarily a solution. more of a see what happens thing. They dont seem to want to go in the water, so make them and see what happens.
100% your call though.
I also dont think your bleach is too high. I just did some looking and that appears to be a fairly common dosing range.

ya idk i thought maybe the ph of 5.3 was too low so i raised it to 5.8.

something is up with my water, not a clue what tho.

i wonder if its my garbage can im storing my RO water in.

 

[etownpaul]

ya idk i thought maybe the ph of 5.3 was too low so i raised it to 5.8.

something is up with my water, not a clue what tho.

i wonder if its my garbage can im storing my RO water in.

Is it a metal garbage can you are storing your RO water in? RO water will leach the metals out of the can. That's why RO filters are all plastic and plastic tubing.

I ran bleach as a sterilizer in my system and never had much luck. I think cheap bleach isn't the same as the pool shock some guys run. There is probably other shit not on the label that's harmful to the plants. Once i switched to 30% peroxide things got better.