Novel coronavirus introduced to humans in exotic animal meat market.

DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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abandonconflict said:
It's fairly well cornered down to a bat at this point but there are a few things researchers are having some difficulty fitting into the picture.

One is that men have a greater chance catching 2019nCoV and of experiencing the very serious complication called ARDS. It seems that the spike proteins bind more readily with an enzyme in the cell membrane which is more likely in men. This came from a study with a small test group.

Another thing is the R0. It's been hard to estimate, not only because of the quickly changing picture and CCP cover-up, but also because there seem to be "super-spreaders". Apparently there are some people who spread the disease much more than others.
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I'm sure data will become available now that it's broken out of China, we have an international Lab in Winnipeg that deals with that, they recently developed a vaccine for ebola, I'm sure it's at the top of their list right now. If it's like other corna viruses it can mutate tough, cold viruses do, a lot.
We will know more as information develops in open societies, China is concerned lest it inhibit or stop trade and that is about their only concern, maybe they will learn, this shit could kill them and theirs too, everybody is vulnerable at this point. Even Trump could catch it from one of his undocumented workers at Mar Lago (no healthcare or leave) and die, problem solved, or at least a lot of them!
 
abandonconflict

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That death in the Philippines was an HIV complication. They weren't going to include it but a few people raised their voices. He was 44 and had apparently recovered, was no longer showing symptoms, then he got the ARDS to go with his AIDS.
 
abandonconflict

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Aside from the Florida sized piece of ice about to fall into the sea, not much to fear in the world. It still isn't known how China introduced this virus to people, but it had nothing to do with a snake. It could have been a lab accident or it could have come straight from a bat.
Concerns about the institute predate this outbreak. Nature ran a story in 2017 about it building a new biosafety level 4 lab and included molecular biologist Richard Ebright of Rutgers University, Piscataway, expressing concerns about accidental infections, which he noted repeatedly happened with lab workers handling SARS in Beijing. Ebright, who has a long history of raising red flags about studies with dangerous pathogens, also in 2015 criticized an experiment in which modifications were made to a SARS-like virus circulating in Chinese bats to see whether it had the potential to cause disease in humans. Earlier this week, Ebright questioned the accuracy of Bedford’s calculation that there are at least 25 years of evolutionary distance between RaTG13—the virus held in the Wuhan virology institute—and 2019-nCoV, arguing that the mutation rate may have been different as it passed through different hosts before humans. Ebright tells ScienceInsider that the 2019-nCoV data are “consistent with entry into the human population as either a natural accident or a laboratory accident.”
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Budley Doright

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Canadians coming home :). Bringing them to Trenton military base for 14 day quarantine. 30 miles to the west of me, wonder why the flight halfway across the country though?
 
abandonconflict

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Budley Doright said:
Canadians coming home :). Bringing them to Trenton military base for 14 day quarantine. 30 miles to the west of me, wonder why the flight halfway across the country though?
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The fear is dying down somewhat. The woman from Wuhan who brought the virus to the Philippines transferred at the airport in Cebu City and then stayed at a resort near Dumaguete for four days. She was identified and quarantined a few days ago. Her partner died of it, first 2019ncov death outside China. I live in Siquijor. So if there's an outbreak in Dumaguete, I'll probably be sick in a couple weeks. I'm going to get a nitrox tank and keep it at my place and stock up on nsaids.

Other than that, I'm going to keep diving until I have symptoms.
 
Budley Doright

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abandonconflict said:
The fear is dying down somewhat. The woman from Wuhan who brought the virus to the Philippines transferred at the airport in Cebu City and then stayed at a resort near Dumaguete for four days. She was identified and quarantined a few days ago. Her partner died of it, first 2019ncov death outside China. I live in Siquijor. So if there's an outbreak in Dumaguete, I'll probably be sick in a couple weeks. I'm going to get a nitrox tank and keep it at my place and stock up on nsaids.

Other than that, I'm going to keep diving until I have symptoms.
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I would have thought you would be using nitrox a lot now. I’ve pretty much stopped diving since the heart thing :(. Now I limit myself to shallow dives at 30 feet and above, more to see and hunt here ;)
 
abandonconflict

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Budley Doright said:
I would have thought you would be using nitrox a lot now. I’ve pretty much stopped diving since the heart thing :(. Now I limit myself to shallow dives at 30 feet and above, more to see and hunt here ;)
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Oh yeah lots of nitrox diving, but I'm now going to keep a tank in my home, in case anyone has a lung issue from 2019ncov.
 
abandonconflict

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Deadliest day yet. There are now over 20k confirmed cases and 427 deaths confirmed to be caused by the virus.

The numbers are increasing geometrically and the cases outside of China are almost reaching the end of incubation. It's about to become much worse.
 
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