Tangerine_
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I gotta give second thumbs up for Regalia. I use it for dunking clones and as part of my IPM. Its pricey but effective.
The problem is PM acts systemic, so you kind of need to approach as if it is.All I know is the pm is like an unwanted house guest, and is really getting to be a huge pain in my arse!!
What do you recommend for daily treatment, when in flower? The Regalia, like the Exile, says to only use once a week. I was using Hydrogen peroxide diluted in between Exile treatments. but wondering if there is something different / better than the peroxide? Have you ever used the GH Exile? Seems good and isn't nearly as expensive as the Regalia.
And yes, I cleaned everything I could, and then blasted my rooms with a ozone generator, and it still came back after 3+ weeks. It is impossible to clean everything though....the spores are microscopic and are everywhere I'm sure! (which is why I used the ozone) I think my problem is coming from my super soil. I used a different bat guano in my mix this time and I think it was untreated. My girls are in 10g bags, and there's 10 of them, so quite a bit of soil. I even saturated the soil with a peroxide mix back in grow a few times when I first noticed the pm. But my previous grow in the same batch of super soil was fantastic so IDK. But that's just a hunch.
And yes it spread to my germination / cloning area and now noting wants to grow correctly...I was thinking my beans were old or had bad genetics, but now I'm pretty sure it's the fungus.
Another problem for me is temps...I cut my operation way back, and the temps are cooler now with way less lighting...Been running about 75 degrees F days and 65F nights, RH 45-50.
I've got fresh beans on the way and don't even dare start them here...
Personally if it's like less then 50 plants spray em down with coco wet and water...hell neem will.coat the leaf tissue and ward off new transmission as well as some inhibition to the pathogens sporulatingAll I know is the pm is like an unwanted house guest, and is really getting to be a huge pain in my arse!!
What do you recommend for daily treatment, when in flower? The Regalia, like the Exile, says to only use once a week. I was using Hydrogen peroxide diluted in between Exile treatments. but wondering if there is something different / better than the peroxide? Have you ever used the GH Exile? Seems good and isn't nearly as expensive as the Regalia.
And yes, I cleaned everything I could, and then blasted my rooms with a ozone generator, and it still came back after 3+ weeks. It is impossible to clean everything though....the spores are microscopic and are everywhere I'm sure! (which is why I used the ozone) I think my problem is coming from my super soil. I used a different bat guano in my mix this time and I think it was untreated. My girls are in 10g bags, and there's 10 of them, so quite a bit of soil. I even saturated the soil with a peroxide mix back in grow a few times when I first noticed the pm. But my previous grow in the same batch of super soil was fantastic so IDK. But that's just a hunch.
And yes it spread to my germination / cloning area and now noting wants to grow correctly...I was thinking my beans were old or had bad genetics, but now I'm pretty sure it's the fungus.
Another problem for me is temps...I cut my operation way back, and the temps are cooler now with way less lighting...Been running about 75 degrees F days and 65F nights, RH 45-50.
I've got fresh beans on the way and don't even dare start them here...
I am growing organically in super soil! I was actually going to fire up my aeroponic nutriculture, but my clones didn't take because of the pm I assume.It’s easy to eliminate in cannabis. Amino acids, calmag then what ever else you put in your res.
Creates Pectin so no water for PM tap root to thrive, thus no pm even 85degrees 70% humidity.
All sprays are just bandaids
My IPM for my bloom and veg room is pretty basic.Soul crushing is spot on!!
I really appreciate all the recommendations!
Regarding the Regalia...I see it has nothing but 5 star ratings on Amazon...About to order a quart to try, but I see there is a regular version and a Regalia CG... Any preference? Both have the same active ingredient, and not sure what the difference is.
Definitely time for me to start an IPM !
Tangerine, I'd love to hear about your "use it for dunking clones and as part of my IPM ".... If you are willing to share your secrets!!
What amazes me, is I thought I caught this very early...There were only a few small white spots, but it moved from room to room quickly, and has really effected ALL of my mj plants, and the ability to start new ones be it from clone or seed.
Thanks again for the help, and my crushed soul thanks you even more!!
I'm in the Mojave Desert. My humidity is usually between 10% and 15% I had PM that I could not kill until Regalia. It got me to harvest. I can't recommend it highly enough. As for Fungus Gnats I used a root drench of 36% Permethrin. They were dead in 2 treatments and I gave them a third to be sure.From. What I learned powers mildew likes hot humid environments. How I combat it is just keep a clean area. Temperature and humidity at the right level. When I add my second light in my tent is overheata and drive my temp/humidity all crazy. I got a handle on it now. I started growing at night to work with the decreasing temps and not against them
This definitely helps...I had never heard of Hops Latent Virus (HpLV) or "dudding". I'd love to read your other info when you have time to post it....Thank you!!If I had to pick just two for my IPM, it would be Regalia and Botanigard. The Botanigard is to kill any nasties in the substrate, particularly root aphids, which have become a plague of sorts within the cannabis community and is said to be responsible for vectoring Hops Latent Virus (HpLV) or "dudding".
I have some links saved on my laptop I'll post for ya when I get home.
Hope this helps some.
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GH was a Monsanto’s company, now Bayer owns all Monsanto’s companies.This definitely helps...I had never heard of Hops Latent Virus (HpLV) or "dudding". I'd love to read your other info when you have time to post it....Thank you!!
I am thinking there's something more than just powdery mildew going on...The case of PM I have seems so minor compared to pics I have seen, but the plants growth, and more so my younger plants / clones stunted growth tells me something is up.
Thing is, I have not brought anything new into my grow areas...Other than a new batch of super soil that I used raw bat guano in instead of the usual Happy Frog brand. But no new clones, etc....I've ran the 3 same strains indoors for years now.
And ironically, I did have an issue with fungus nats about 2 years ago, but it wasn't severe and got through. Haven't seen one since.
Venerate, regalia, grandevo, and Botaniguard 22WP and M-Pede all sound like great products...Definitely going to order some Regalia and Botaniguard 22WP today for starters. The GH Exile seems to work great for pm too, but they recommend not using it more than 3 consecutive weeks, but perhaps I'll keep that in the mix too. GH has some other IPM products but they are just as expensive as the and Marrone Bio products, and since you all recommend them so strongly that's where I'm headed!!
PM does seem to flourish when the leaves get too dry from extremely low humidity.I'm in the Mojave Desert. My humidity is usually between 10% and 15% I had PM that I could not kill until Regalia. It got me to harvest. I can't recommend it highly enough. As for Fungus Gnats I used a root drench of 36% Permethrin. They were dead in 2 treatments and I gave them a third to be sure.
This is one of the earlier threads with some of the first reports of "dudding". There are reports that pre-date this, but these reports are unique because they came in so rapidly from growers all over the country.This definitely helps...I had never heard of Hops Latent Virus (HpLV) or "dudding". I'd love to read your other info when you have time to post it....Thank you!!
I am thinking there's something more than just powdery mildew going on...The case of PM I have seems so minor compared to pics I have seen, but the plants growth, and more so my younger plants / clones stunted growth tells me something is up.
Thing is, I have not brought anything new into my grow areas...Other than a new batch of super soil that I used raw bat guano in instead of the usual Happy Frog brand. But no new clones, etc....I've ran the 3 same strains indoors for years now.
And ironically, I did have an issue with fungus nats about 2 years ago, but it wasn't severe and got through. Haven't seen one since.
Venerate, regalia, grandevo, and Botaniguard 22WP and M-Pede all sound like great products...Definitely going to order some Regalia and Botaniguard 22WP today for starters. The GH Exile seems to work great for pm too, but they recommend not using it more than 3 consecutive weeks, but perhaps I'll keep that in the mix too. GH has some other IPM products but they are just as expensive as the and Marrone Bio products, and since you all recommend them so strongly that's where I'm headed!!
You are right! I forgot that Bayer bought them out. The GH Exile I commented about is certified OMRI though, cheap, and seems to work well to control pm...and i will say that Bayer makes the best bedbug insecticide out there, Temprid SC, but yes it is some toxic stuff and banned in CA. and not allowed for outdoor use in N.Y.!!GH was a Monsanto’s company, now Bayer owns all Monsanto’s companies.
Strait crooks. Fucking up our health giving us cancers and you guys are stuck in the tit
GH was a Monsanto’s company, now Bayer owns all Monsanto’s companies.
Strait crooks. Fucking up our health giving us cancers and you guys are stuck in the tit
Don't be a tool. Providing growers with info to implement an effective IPM isn't a Band-Aid.It’s easy to eliminate in cannabis. Amino acids, calmag then what ever else you put in your res.
Creates Pectin so no water for PM tap root to thrive, thus no pm even 85degrees 70% humidity.
All sprays are just bandaids
You should see his post's in support LOLDon't be a tool. Providing growers with info to implement an effective IPM isn't a Band-Aid.
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"