Low Pressure Aero build...it has begun!

myke

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ive been mixing everyday for 18 months, im over it. If theres no issue with mixing a big batch and only having to check PH , i want to do it lol
lol!ya it can get old,when im in a hurry i just take a gallon from my hydro res.
 

2com

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I have a 50g tote i want to use for a res, ...
Wait, hold up. Just incase you hadn't considered this, and by tote, you mean the totes we all get at "home improvement" stores, 40G of water is over 330lbs. I feel concerned even putting 20G in a 27G tote, so I don't go over 18, and the sides are slightly bowed. Just looking out for ya.
 

diggs99

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Wait, hold up. Just incase you hadn't considered this, and by tote, you mean the totes we all get at "home improvement" stores, 40G of water is over 330lbs. I feel concerned even putting 20G in a 27G tote, so I don't go over 18, and the sides are slightly bowed. Just looking out for ya.
Thanks bud,


Ya i thought of that earlier too, im not gonna fill it with 40gs, prob 20gs max for the reasons you mentioned lol....20gallons is more than enough, every week i can toss another 5-10g in there and bring it back up

just in case lol
 

Keesje

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Had a question regarding a res for my COCO girls. I have a 50g tote i want to use for a res, if i place a pump and waterfall in the res for aeration, how long could i expect the nute mix to stay viable?
A pump and waterfall for the purpose of aeration is useless (in your set up)
But for keeping your nutes mixed up it is good.

This set up is run to waste, right?
 

diggs99

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A pump and waterfall for the purpose of aeration is useless (in your set up)
But for keeping your nutes mixed up it is good.

This set up is run to waste, right?

No the pump and waterfall is for a separate res for my plants that are in coco, im tired of mixing 2-3 gallons of nutes daily, so gonna give them their own res.


My aero system is recirculating
 

diggs99

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Haven’t updated in a minute. For good reason. It’s been quite the hectic couple weeks for me. The system is back together and running properly.

they are finally back in the big tote, 2 totes per res, runoff flowing back into res.

tomorrow I’ll start training them , give them a week or two to acclimate and then I’m flipping the room.
 

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Keesje

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If you have a separate res (no matter for what system) you never need to aerate it.
In coco the roots get their O2 in the 'normal' way, like plants in soil.
O2 in gaseous state, which is way more effective then DO.
Except when you drown your roots 2/7 of course.
 

diggs99

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If you have a separate res (no matter for what system) you never need to aerate it.
In coco the roots get their O2 in the 'normal' way, like plants in soil.
O2 in gaseous state, which is way more effective then DO.
Except when you drown your roots 2/7 of course.
So nutrients can just sit in a tote for long periods of time without aeration and won't go stagnant?

I was under the impression that bad shit happens when water sits still?
 

diggs99

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It is not the aeration, it is mixing.
That the water gets also aerated is a side effect :)
Ok so I called it aeration, it's actually mixing. My bad.

The waterfall will keep the nutes mixing in the Rez Make sense now? Lol

Still think it isn't needed or was that because I called it by wrong term?
 

Keesje

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Of course it doesn't matter how you call it.
I just nitpicked because some people are under the impression that the aeration does also benefit the roots because there is more DO in the water.
And that this is needed.
But that is not the case.

If it would be my rez I would stir it up/mix it/aerate it on a timer. So not 24/7.
As long as there is a nice, even mix and that no residu or anything else stays at the bottom or that you can see (by the color for example) that it is not mixed well.
 

diggs99

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Of course it doesn't matter how you call it.
I just nitpicked because some people are under the impression that the aeration does also benefit the roots because there is more DO in the water.
And that this is needed.
But that is not the case.

If it would be my rez I would stir it up/mix it/aerate it on a timer. So not 24/7.
As long as there is a nice, even mix and that no residu or anything else stays at the bottom or that you can see (by the color for example) that it is not mixed well.
Ya , I'm gonna run it on a 1/15 or 1/20 timer or something similar.

Just to keep things moving
 

fragileassassin

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I have one of the 55 gallon HDX totes as my outside res. I played with it some before I built the system. I filled it to and inch from the top and it was rather sketchy without the lid on. 3/4 full or less seemed like no problem. 1/2 full is barely noticeable flex.

Im sure you know about my barrel with how much I talk about it lmao...
I run a big pump with 1" hose for 15 mins every 2 hours and it keeps it mixed up pretty well. I give it a good stir every few days just to be safe.
I adjusted the system volume down slightly to match the barrel earlier today. So now I have a holding tank thats full system volume. Nice and easy. When it drinks the barrel, change the water.
I can actually do it all in the barrel now. I closed the valve and prepared a full barrel at my mix. I use a 1400gph mixing pump so once the system is drained I just swap that hose over to the main res and drain the barrel into it. Then I fill the barrel up and do the exact same mix again for top off.


Why premix so much?Ive just been mixing every day.
Because less work is more better! and lazy AF. Once it stabilizes I can pretty much forget about it for 2 weeks until they really start drinking.
 

diggs99

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They would be ok for veg, not so good for flower tho.


I have one of the 55 gallon HDX totes as my outside res. I played with it some before I built the system. I filled it to and inch from the top and it was rather sketchy without the lid on. 3/4 full or less seemed like no problem. 1/2 full is barely noticeable flex.

Im sure you know about my barrel with how much I talk about it lmao...
I run a big pump with 1" hose for 15 mins every 2 hours and it keeps it mixed up pretty well. I give it a good stir every few days just to be safe.
I adjusted the system volume down slightly to match the barrel earlier today. So now I have a holding tank thats full system volume. Nice and easy. When it drinks the barrel, change the water.
I can actually do it all in the barrel now. I closed the valve and prepared a full barrel at my mix. I use a 1400gph mixing pump so once the system is drained I just swap that hose over to the main res and drain the barrel into it. Then I fill the barrel up and do the exact same mix again for top off.



Because less work is more better! and lazy AF. Once it stabilizes I can pretty much forget about it for 2 weeks until they really start drinking.
Thats a slick setup bud, love the efficiency of it all lol.

Ive been hand watering my coco plants daily and mixing anywhere from 2-5 gallons of nutes daily for the past year. Im over it lol

Loving the aero now that its running properly, its easy labor. The coco gals tho, they are still work, now that they are maxed out in the 2g pots, they can be watered 3 times daily without issue. So having a good size res will be very nice lol
 
They would be ok for veg, not so good for flower tho.




Thats a slick setup bud, love the efficiency of it all lol.

Ive been hand watering my coco plants daily and mixing anywhere from 2-5 gallons of nutes daily for the past year. Im over it lol

Loving the aero now that its running properly, its easy labor. The coco gals tho, they are still work, now that they are maxed out in the 2g pots, they can be watered 3 times daily without issue. So having a good size res will be very nice lol
Why not set up a top feed drip for the coco girls? Especially if they’re in 2 gallon pots. I’ve seen people watering with top feed drip on timers every 1.5-2 hours during peak flower. They say that’s how they get their massive yields.

Pure Coco is the 1 style I have yet to try, so I can’t comment from personal experience.
But I’ve run drain to waste top feed drip before. I built it myself for cheap.

I got a couple pallets, bought a piece of that wavy plastic (corrugated) roofing and mounted it on the pallets on a slight angle (so the water runs to 1 side) and then I used a piece of gutter underneath the edge of the corrugated roofing to catch all the run-off, then ran a piece of garden hose from the end of the gutter to where I drained the waste water.
 

myke

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When feeding multiple feeds per day are they all to runoff? Or is just say once a day to runoff and the rest are just a watering? Thx
 

diggs99

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When feeding multiple feeds per day are they all to runoff? Or is just say once a day to runoff and the rest are just a watering? Thx
Honestly, most times no runoff at all. i keep my coco pretty moist once the root ball fills the small 2g pots. Every few days i will totally drench the pots tho and see lots of runoff, washing away any salt buildup.

Last run i was watering 5 times daily ala DJM , so far this bunch are taking water 3 times daily.
 

TintEastwood

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Ive been hand watering my coco plants daily and mixing anywhere from 2-5 gallons of nutes daily for the past year. Im over it lol
Memberberries. lol Like many of us farmers, you loved that hand spank watering in the beginning. (And it is of great value for new coco'ers IMO.)
Gotta guess....you been too busy building lights/aero and lovin life!!!
But mang oh mang I thought you automated that already. Too easy - git-r done. :peace:

My next grow system - High Pressure Aero Octopots FTW! :dunce:
 
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diggs99

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Memberberries. lol Like many of us farmers, you loved that hand spank watering in the beginning. (And it is of great value for new coco'ers IMO.)
Gotta guess....you been too busy building lights/aero and lovin life!!!
But mang oh mang I thought you automated that already. Too easy - git-r done. :peace:

My next grow system - High Pressure Aero Octopots FTW! :dunce:
Hahaha ya, i was gonna automate everything a bunch of times, something always came up and i just kept on hand watering....Mixing 2-5gs every day

I have all the lines and manifolds and pumps to run drip,
 
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