Powdery Mildew !!!

[Samwell Seed Well]

So did they go back to using the Regalia?? Sounds like the same environment I currently have!!

Question....I ordered the Regalia SC (suspension concentrate) and Venerate SC. Are the regular versions a powder? If not whats the difference, and did I order the right stuff?

Can I use these 2 together, or should I stagger?

And i wasn't aware i could use the Regalia as a root drench...Although there's plenty I'm not aware of, lol... and I still think my pm came from this latest batch of super soil, but of course I will never know for sure.

I'm going to go research on how to properly do a root drench too...like i said, plenty I don't know!!

Yes within the last month and a half and our yeilds are up 15% and our bud in bag yields is up 20%

But hey, im treated their like im treated here

A mouth piece...oh well...(not wallowing just reality, this site has ups and downs)

 

[manfredo]

So did they go back to using the Regalia?? Sounds like the same environment I currently have!!

Question....I ordered the Regalia SC (suspension concentrate) and Venerate SC. Are the regular versions a powder? If not whats the difference, and did I order the right stuff?

Can I use these 2 together, or should I stagger?

And i wasn't aware i could use the Regalia as a root drench...Although there's plenty I'm not aware of, lol... and I still think my pm came from this latest batch of super soil, but of course I will never know for sure.

I'm going to go research on how to properly do a root drench too...like i said, plenty I don't know!!

Sorry for the confusion.

I ordered the Regalia CG and Venerate CG , not SC as i posted above...Just researching them more again now!

 

[manfredo]

I also have another thought on where my pm came from....seasoned Firewood. I heat my home primarily with firewood. I start burning wood about the end of October, and that's about when my pm surfaced. That's probably a more likely source than my super soil, I believe....and unfortunately there's another 3 months minimum of heating season here ....I sooo need to retire and move somewhere warmer!!

Yes within the last month and a half and our yeilds are up 15% and our bud in bag yields is up 20%

But hey, im treated their like im treated here

A mouth piece...oh well...(not wallowing just reality, this site has ups and downs)

I'm certainly listening to your advice, and if I need a smack upside my head, smack away!!

 

[manfredo]

Spraying in flower can be tricky, but I think you'd be OK.
Bulking hasn't started yet and with good air flow you don't have that risk of trapped moisture deep within the buds. It "might" change the color of the pistils though.

For edible crops, Regalia has a PHI (Pre-Harvest Interval) of zero days with the recommended dilution rate of 0.5-1% concentration.
I have my dilution written on a dry erase board as 60ml/per gallon but I should probably recheck my mix rate.

@curious2garden @Samwell Seed Well
Could you please list the correct mix rates for Regalia. My label doesnt have a smaller dilution listed so I just went by the 1% dilution rate for edible crops.

You are 100% correct

https://marronebio.com/cg/cannabis/

AM I ABLE TO APPLY THESE PRODUCTS INTO THE FLOWERING STAGE?
Yes*
Venerate CG and Grandevo CG can be applied into the flowering stage and it is important to note that neither product contain live bacteria that can show up later during harvest when the commodity may be checked for microbial content. Both Grandevo CG and Venerate CG are exempt for having a tolerance for residues and have not been known to have any impact on the flowers and final commodity. This applies to Regalia CG as well.
Our products have been used in this industry since cannabis became legal in CO & WA. The last 3 years they have been used throughout the industry all the way up to harvest with companies taking the flowers grown to make concentrates & edibles. No issue has been reported about negatively effecting the flower in any way as far as smell, taste, smoke, etc . No residues in testing have come up either.

 

[JesusFreakier]

I also have another thought on where my pm came from....seasoned Firewood. I heat my home primarily with firewood. I start burning wood about the end of October, and that's about when my pm surfaced. That's probably a more likely source than my super soil, I believe....and unfortunately there's another 3 months minimum of heating season here ....I sooo need to retire and move somewhere warmer!!




I'm certainly listening to your advice, and if I need a smack upside my head, smack away!!

Hi All, I suffered from White Powder Mold and discovered a large patch of it on the neighbor's lawn outside my building. Yes some strains are prone to it 10X, and some resist it well. H2O2, not the best choice. The absolute cure is Mite Massacre at 1/2 strength. WARNING, this stuff is absolutely worthless for Spider Mites, yet it is the absolute cure for White Powder Mold. Use 3/4 tsp per Quart of water. Spray bottoms and tops of leaves and every stem and branch. Spray the soil too, the pots, and walls and ceiling. Will not hurt the leaves. WARNING, if you mix as instructed for Spider Mites, it will trash every leaf and you will be so sorry they even sell this stuff as Spider Mite control. For spider mites during veg, use Pyrethrins such as Mighty Might Control. You can make it stronger with a few drops of 35% Pyrethrins. Unless you smoe the veg, no issues doing this. No leaf harm or any ill effect.

 

[manfredo]

Gonna be mixing up a batch of Reglia here shortly...My lights come on at 7 pm so some time before that!

In all my reading, I believe they said you shouldn't use Botaniguard 22WP along with pesticides as they could kill the live active cultures/bacteria in the Botaniguard. Any help on this?

What I am planning, if this sounds feasible, is spraying everything tonight with Regalia, and doing root drenches / dips with it on my plants in veg. My flowering plants are all in 10g bags but I could do root drenches.

And should I add Venerate into the mix? If so to both the roots and spray?? I was going to leave the Botaniguard alone til I read up more on it, plus I don't think I have any bugs now anyhow...Haven't even seen a housefly since i ozoned the place, lol.

Happy Monday all!! Sorry for so many questions!

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

BT 22WP and regalia fight different things so space the applications out for a better effect.

if they had a synergistic effect together you would want to use them together. For example a contact killer and a feeding blocker work well together because the feeding blocker forces the bugs to move around in search of food coming into more contact with said contact killer chemical(toxicity is dosage more dosage higher toxicity this does not mean spray higher concentrations ever...follow label rates always)

alternating applications is fine...

what is the BT for?

 

[manfredo]

what is the BT for?

Thanks!! I really don't need the BT at this time. I just bought it to have on hand and maybe incorporate as part of my new IPM, at your recommendation....but now I see it has a short shelf life...I only bought a 1 lb. bag, although as you know it's not cheap.

And I did go back and check...I can combine the Regalia and Venterate, but I'm undecided on that...Unless someone says different, at this time I'll probably just use the Regalia.

I am going to hit the vegging plants hard and see if I can save them. Maybe I'll take a few pics of the flowering plants with the pm to show you guys, and then see what they look like after a dose or 2 of Regalia.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Thanks!! I really don't need the BT at this time. I just bought it to have on hand and maybe incorporate as part of my new IPM, at your recommendation....but now I see it has a short shelf life...I only bought a 1 lb. bag, although as you know it's not cheap.

And I did go back and check...I can combine the Regalia and Venterate, but I'm undecided on that...Unless someone says different, at this time I'll probably just use the Regalia.

I am going to hit the vegging plants hard and see if I can save them. Maybe I'll take a few pics of the flowering plants with the pm to show you guys, and then see what they look like after a dose or 2 of Regalia.

1.5oz/Gallon Venerate + 1oz/Gallon of Regalia , you good all day(once or twice a week)

Grandevo is the other miticide Birrone makes I still highly recommend

BT is more everything else protection. I would use it between seasonal changes both indoors or as a perimeter spray on your domicile(if you have a perimeter).

Also it will last forever, put it in the fridge( don't let it get wet or hot..i know no fun)

I really only recommend it for plant intake dips, seedling dips and or treatment for aphids or whiteflies, caterpillers, leafhoppers , which you will probably encounter at some piont, should last 2 years easy in a fridge...my bad...

 

[manfredo]

1.5oz/Gallon Venerate + 1oz/Gallon of Regalia , you good all day(once or twice a week)

Grandevo is the other miticide Birrone makes I still highly recommend

BT is more everything else protection. I would use it between seasonal changes both indoors or as a perimeter spray on your domicile(if you have a perimeter).

Also it will last forever, put it in the fridge( don't let it get wet or hot..i know no fun)

I really only recommend it for plant intake dips, seedling dips and or treatment for aphids or whiteflies, caterpillers, leafhoppers , which you will probably encounter at some piont, should last 2 years easy in a fridge...my bad...

The BT will come in handy and be good to have on hand. Thanks for the refridge tip! I heard the Grandevo was great to alternate off with the Venerate so I shall pickup some of that, and I think the 3 Barrone Products will be my weekly regular treatments. Bug season is right arond the corner and I'll be prepared. Hydrobuilder had best price on that stuff that I could find. And I will alternate a few other things in there as well

The BT will also be a lot less toxic than the Bayer product I have been using for a perimeter spray.... so it will get used.

Just need to shake the pm!!

Playing with the $20 1000x zoom microscope I got from Amazon tonight...Best $20 purchase in a while. Fresh bubble hash looks amazing magnified. All the different shades of amber and nothing but tightly packed trichomes, just amazingly beautiful!! Had to sample some after that of course And now, it's lala land....

 

[manfredo]

 

[manfredo]

So as sickly as these things look, you should have seen them 6 weeks ago. I seriously burned them with some concoction of soap and i don't even remember what else now. They lost about 60-70% of their leaves. ALL the big fan leaves were gone! So these poor stressed over fed things have had a brutally rough life. These pics were just before I sprayed with Regalia. Thats actually not pm on the buds...it is sugary trichomes, and you can see the PM spots on leaves are small. Actually the Regalia did nothing...spots are still there!! Def not bulking right, beginning of week 5. But I shall hit them 2 x a week with the Regalia and venerate and hope for some magic.

I did a root drench on my other plants in veg tonight, and dipped the smaller ones in Regalia. And mixed up a fresh batch of super soil today so I'll have something good to put them in, in a month.

And now the girls are thirsty...my work is never done!

 

[Fiete]

Hi,

I have a problem with PM.... I make a huge mistake and not throw my first plants out where i have seen this first after 15 days later on nothink helps no Peroxide no ph water over 8.0 it always comes back! My problem are now my new plants 1 from 6 showing little PM signs a friend told me to throw she away and i will do that but what is when she infested the other 5 new plants

 

[manfredo]

Hi,

I have a problem with PM.... I make a huge mistake and not throw my first plants out where i have seen this first after 15 days later on nothink helps no Peroxide no ph water over 8.0 it always comes back! My problem are now my new plants 1 from 6 showing little PM signs a friend told me to throw she away and i will do that but what is when she infested the other 5 new plants

I think it's safe to say, if one plants has it, they all do. If they are seedlings, I'd throw them all away....or at the very least, if they are something special, buy a quart of Regalia and dip them, cups and all, and then spray them after that weekly or bi-weekly. I did this with a few small clones of a special breed I wanna keep, and so far they have really perked up.

Read this entire thread, and you will get some treatment ideas....but honestly if you don't want to spend the money on the Regalia and they are young, start over after some intensive cleaning. Those spores are probably through your entire home now, so you almost are going to have to do something drastic. I feel your pain!!

 

[Fiete]

I think it's safe to say, if one plants has it, they all do. If they are seedlings, I'd throw them all away....or at the very least, if they are something special, buy a quart of Regalia and dip them, cups and all, and then spray them after that weekly or bi-weekly. I did this with a few small clones of a special breed I wanna keep, and so far they have really perked up.

Read this entire thread, and you will get some treatment ideas....but honestly if you don't want to spend the money on the Regalia and they are young, start over after some intensive cleaning. Those spores are probably through your entire home now, so you almost are going to have to do something drastic. I feel your pain!!

That's Horrific!!! How is the chance the other are not considered?? It's Fucks my Brain! I thought it is Easy to fight PM but it's comes back.

 

[manfredo]

It sucks bigtime!! The battle is still on for me and I feel like I have a long ways to go!!

 

[Fiete]

It sucks bigtime!! The battle is still on for me and I feel like I have a long ways to go!!

I research a little and a friend give me a huge info. I do not spray ever with water again... He sayd and a YouTube guy also that the PM Lowes Humidity for Germination! So if i don't have sprayed maybe never PM are in my Room... So, i removed 1 weak plant with PM and the rest has a great airflow and the Humidity are always 45-60% so that the spores are not germinated. I will see it it helps. The Milk stuff much people say 9:1 ratio are also a very very good thing for controlling the PM.

 

[manfredo]

I research a little and a friend give me a huge info. I do not spray ever with water again... He sayd and a YouTube guy also that the PM Lowes Humidity for Germination! So if i don't have sprayed maybe never PM are in my Room... So, i removed 1 weak plant with PM and the rest has a great airflow and the Humidity are always 45-60% so that the spores are not germinated. I will see it it helps. The Milk stuff much people say 9:1 ratio are also a very very good thing for controlling the PM.

I wish you luck...It's probably smart for you to be pro-active with something since you know it's lurking in the background. And being in veg stage you have a lot of options. Many people and products claim to have a "cure" for it. I'm in the same boat as you...I have a few started in veg that have been exposed, and I am hoping they will be ok.

I sprayed mine tonight with Regalia again...and found a place to buy it cheaper too, so it's really very economical, and people here swear by it, so we shall see.

I may have to become an outdoor grower again....yikes!

 

[Fiete]

And another infested Plant

 

[manfredo]

Yep, that's what I expected. How far along are these plants? Just out of curiosity, was this fresh soil, or re-used soil? i only ask because I suspect in some cases the soil may be where it comes from.

An update on my girls...I have been using the Regalia. I have not seen (yet) any signs of pm on my plants in veg, but I have sprayed my plants in flower (week 5) twice and it is still spreading. I went through every plant last night and cut any fan leaves that had any signs of pm.