abandonconflict
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Bloomberg isn't as bad as Bernie.
Bloomberg to the rescue
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UncleBuck
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1) has Bloomberg ever levied a tax on the poor, or did he do the exact opposite in his 12 years as mayor?
2) Is trumps retarded and unwinnable trade war costing families like mine $1200 a year?
3) is China paying for the tariffs?
4) is Mexico paying for the wall (which blew over in the wind)
5) do you remember when you lied for years about not supporting trump, but then you gave up and supported the neo nazi praiser who is running trillion dollar deficits?
Padawanbater2
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Marching with Dr. King or implementing stop and frisk racially profiling African Americans..
Seems like something a racist might say..
Padawanbater2
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Michael Bloomberg Says “We Put All The Cops In Minority Neighborhoods Because That’s Where All The Crime Is.” [Audio]
Submitted by sandersbannes<br /><br>Posted by Thrillz
abandonconflict
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So now I'm a racist because Bernie sucks?
I thought you said your coworkers expected more of you seeing as how you're a white guy.
hanimmal
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You are saying that somehow him saying taxes on things like cigarettes, that are designed to keep people healthier and offset the eventual healthcare costs, which does take up a larger portion of someone's income when they make less money, is his supporting a regressive taxation of the poor.
This is a disingenuous stance, it is like saying the sugar subsidies are really there because the sugar lobby loves the poor and wants to help the poor communities keep more money in their pocket.
Padawanbater2
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Bloomberg said they put all the cops in minority neighborhoods because that's where all the crime is. If Trump said that, you would call him racist, but you give Bloomberg a pass. Why do you seem to give all the racist white guys you support a pass on being racist?
hanimmal
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Any 1st grader should be able to explain the concept of 'less than/greater than', but here is a video:
abandonconflict
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Paductaper isn't just any first grader. He's special.
hanimmal
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Ok, snark aside, maybe this was a legit question, and it does deserve a legit answer and not just me trolling you because you are so often disingenuous and ignore well thought out answers, or just cheery pick one small bit of it to take out of context.
So Bloomberg statement of 'putting cops in minority communities because that is where the crime is', is lacking in his understanding of the situation that 70 years of white flight, red lining, and underfunding schools & services due to the drastic decreases in tax base, has caused these communities, and led to more government sanctioned racism in the minority communities. Which he has apologized for and has explained it was an attempt to protect those communities from crime, mistaken but not out right racism.
Trump meanwhile is having his AG threaten minority communities that if they don't start bending the knee to him and being grateful for it he will take away the police force that they need. He is telling cops to bang peoples heads while arresting them, and that 5 proven innocent black people should still be in jail. And much much more can be seen as blatant racism on Trump's part.
The level of racism is not the same in the least between Trump and Bloomberg, hence why I did the greater than/less than troll on you, which I apologize for if you meant it as a legit question.
Rob Roy
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what's bloombergs sensible and pragmatic plan, Jim?..can you give me the Cliff Note version?
abandon's dulce leche- brown on the outside and white on the inside.
that was pointed out in Marxism and perpetuated now with minority populace; if they received more salary they wouldn't know how to spend or fritter it away- what do you think electoral college is all about? 1700s way to represent uneducated (and distant) farmers with their choice.
I remember stop and frisk..do you? Our next candidate will need minority populace backing..do you really think Bloomberg is that billionaire who should be telling folks of color where and when they can be?
You want this again?:
or this for your kids?:
Now that we know what Bloomberg has accomplished, here's some of Sanders':
U.S. House of Representatives
His 1990 victory was described by The Washington Post as being the “First Socialist Elected” to the United States House of Representatives in more than 40 years.
Served in the House from 1991 until the time he became a Senator in 2007. Over a span of 16 years, he continuously won re-election by large margins, with the only exception being 1994.
In his very first year in the House, he co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus. He led this group for its first eight years. Its primary devotion is to advance liberal causes and is currently the largest organization within the Democratic congressional caucus.
He sided with the minority in voting against the use of force against Iraq in 1991 and 2002. He also opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Voted against the Patriot Act despite the majority of Congress voting for it (357 to 66). He also sponsored several amendments trying to limit its effects, even getting a proposal passed through the House preventing the government from obtaining a record of the books people buy.
Was an open critic of Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan and took him head on insisting he only represented “large and wealthy corporations.” Greenspan later admitted to Congress that his economic ideology regarding risky mortgage loans was flawed.
He passed more amendments than any other member during his time in the House. It earned him the nickname “The Amendment King.” He did this despite being a “socialist” and Congress being controlled by Republicans from 1994 to 2006, in one of the most partisan right-wing Houses ever.
Passed an amendment to “require offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white collar crime to give appropriate notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”
Passed an amendment that improved Postsecondary Education. It administered a competitive grant program to institutions of higher education seeking to reduce costs through the purchase of goods and services. This saved colleges and taxpayers both money.
He amended the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003, stopping the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.”
He expanded free health care and won a $100 million increase in funding by using his amendment powers. This added community health centers that gave out a variety of free health care services.
Prevented child labor by passing an amendment to a general appropriations bill. This stated that the U.S. will not appropriate funds for the importation of goods made by the hands of minors.
Won a $22 million increase for low-income home energy assistance and a related weatherization assistance program. This helped heat homes for the poor.
Passed an amendment that formed a bipartisan coalition effectively prohibiting the Export-Import Bank from handing out loans for nuclear projects in China.
U.S. Senate
Defeated a wealthy businessman, Rich Tarrant, to win his U.S. Senate seat in 2006, in one of the most expensive campaigns in Vermont’s history.
Received the distinction of being named the third-most popular senator in the country, according to Public Policy Polling in August 2011.
Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.
Named one of the top 5 American Jews of the Forward 50 in 2015.
Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs in 2013-2014.
Became ranking minority member of the Senate Budget Committee in January 2015.
Became ranking minority member of the Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging.
Passed an amendment making sure that solar water heaters provide at least 30 percent of hot water for new federal buildings. This is forcing us to use green energy.
Made sure to it that bailout funds weren’t used to replace laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.
Helped ensure that child care was being offered to parents in the Armed Forces by requiring the Comptroller General to provide accurate reporting on what was being done.
Required a public database be made available showing the names of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors. This helped crack down on corruption.
Required that the TRICARE program provide treatment to veterans affected by certain types of autism. It wasn’t previously being done.
Won a battle requiring the Government Accountability Office to conduct an audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the part that doesn’t interfere with monetary policy). This revealed the names of the recipients of over 2,000,000,000,000 in taxpayer assistance.
Was praised by John McCain(R-AZ) and Sen. Jack Reed(D-RI) for overhauling the Veterans Administration. Was said to have done such an excellent job of bringing all parties to a deal, that it wouldn’t have gotten done without Sanders’ work.
But, most of all, what Bernie has done is inspire Americans. That’s what he’s doing in this election. His list of accomplishments doesn’t include all the times he’s stood on the Senate floor giving a passionate speech on why the “big banks need to be broken up.” No, you can’t quite quantify things like that.
STOP BEING SHALLOW AND SUPERFICIAL, MEN. Bernie Sanders is our best shot at defeating Trump* and getting ourselves back.
Bernie Sanders is a leader who's genuine and accomplished- that has to be enough for you.
You want this again?:
or this for your kids?:
Now that we know what Bloomberg has accomplished, here's some of Sanders':
U.S. House of Representatives
His 1990 victory was described by The Washington Post as being the “First Socialist Elected” to the United States House of Representatives in more than 40 years.
Served in the House from 1991 until the time he became a Senator in 2007. Over a span of 16 years, he continuously won re-election by large margins, with the only exception being 1994.
In his very first year in the House, he co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus. He led this group for its first eight years. Its primary devotion is to advance liberal causes and is currently the largest organization within the Democratic congressional caucus.
He sided with the minority in voting against the use of force against Iraq in 1991 and 2002. He also opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
Voted against the Patriot Act despite the majority of Congress voting for it (357 to 66). He also sponsored several amendments trying to limit its effects, even getting a proposal passed through the House preventing the government from obtaining a record of the books people buy.
Was an open critic of Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan and took him head on insisting he only represented “large and wealthy corporations.” Greenspan later admitted to Congress that his economic ideology regarding risky mortgage loans was flawed.
He passed more amendments than any other member during his time in the House. It earned him the nickname “The Amendment King.” He did this despite being a “socialist” and Congress being controlled by Republicans from 1994 to 2006, in one of the most partisan right-wing Houses ever.
Passed an amendment to “require offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white collar crime to give appropriate notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”
Passed an amendment that improved Postsecondary Education. It administered a competitive grant program to institutions of higher education seeking to reduce costs through the purchase of goods and services. This saved colleges and taxpayers both money.
He amended the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003, stopping the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.”
He expanded free health care and won a $100 million increase in funding by using his amendment powers. This added community health centers that gave out a variety of free health care services.
Prevented child labor by passing an amendment to a general appropriations bill. This stated that the U.S. will not appropriate funds for the importation of goods made by the hands of minors.
Won a $22 million increase for low-income home energy assistance and a related weatherization assistance program. This helped heat homes for the poor.
Passed an amendment that formed a bipartisan coalition effectively prohibiting the Export-Import Bank from handing out loans for nuclear projects in China.
U.S. Senate
Defeated a wealthy businessman, Rich Tarrant, to win his U.S. Senate seat in 2006, in one of the most expensive campaigns in Vermont’s history.
Received the distinction of being named the third-most popular senator in the country, according to Public Policy Polling in August 2011.
Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.
Named one of the top 5 American Jews of the Forward 50 in 2015.
Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs in 2013-2014.
Became ranking minority member of the Senate Budget Committee in January 2015.
Became ranking minority member of the Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging.
Passed an amendment making sure that solar water heaters provide at least 30 percent of hot water for new federal buildings. This is forcing us to use green energy.
Made sure to it that bailout funds weren’t used to replace laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.
Helped ensure that child care was being offered to parents in the Armed Forces by requiring the Comptroller General to provide accurate reporting on what was being done.
Required a public database be made available showing the names of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors. This helped crack down on corruption.
Required that the TRICARE program provide treatment to veterans affected by certain types of autism. It wasn’t previously being done.
Won a battle requiring the Government Accountability Office to conduct an audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the part that doesn’t interfere with monetary policy). This revealed the names of the recipients of over 2,000,000,000,000 in taxpayer assistance.
Was praised by John McCain(R-AZ) and Sen. Jack Reed(D-RI) for overhauling the Veterans Administration. Was said to have done such an excellent job of bringing all parties to a deal, that it wouldn’t have gotten done without Sanders’ work.
But, most of all, what Bernie has done is inspire Americans. That’s what he’s doing in this election. His list of accomplishments doesn’t include all the times he’s stood on the Senate floor giving a passionate speech on why the “big banks need to be broken up.” No, you can’t quite quantify things like that.
STOP BEING SHALLOW AND SUPERFICIAL, MEN. Bernie Sanders is our best shot at defeating Trump* and getting ourselves back.
Bernie Sanders is a leader who's genuine and accomplished- that has to be enough for you.
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Fogdog
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the DNC is not supposed to be choosing..'we the people are'.
Fogdog
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Right wing and left are piling on.
Desperate.
A supporter of a wannabe dictator and worst president of the US and a supporter of a do nothing politician running on a vague promise for free stuff are posting up pre-packaged propaganda. Both are piling on Bloomberg.
I admit to a bias against the guy but if @schuylaar and @Bugeye are cutting and pasting propaganda from pre-packaged propaganda sites bought and paid for by anti-democratic wealth, that makes two counts in favor for Bloomberg. I'll vote for him if he wins the nomination.
Fogdog
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Trump, Putin, Sanders and his supporters are doing their level best to prevent us from choosing.
Why is that?