Couch_buzz
Well-Known Member
Agree with Nick 20-24 inches away
That vipar450 draws 200 watts.
That vipar450 draws 200 watts.
What am i doing wrong
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Igrow420365
Member
It looks as if she’s stretching for light. I would suggest putting the light closer to her. Besides that she looks good. Keep it up!! Check out my seedling time lapse with a $45 600w led from amazon light 2x2x4. Check out my time lapse video.
LLanier
Active Member
This us my current situation in my closet. Will have a 2x4 tent kit with 600w kind led in a few weeks. Its ordered but they take forever getting it all put together for some reason. I'm waiting for my seedsman order as well. Hot some purple lemonade autos coming.
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Tonycannavis
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How about Adding more dirt cover her legs a little
LLanier
Active Member
I totally would but the pots they are in are pretty full already
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rodclutcher
Member
stop using only the veg switch only use both all the time. the light is pure trash and even worse when only using the blue side of the light. i have used them lights for years they are bad when use incorrectly. just my 2cents.
LLanier
Active Member
Thank you man, I will do that. The small light I started them with had red in it . Maybe the lack if red is causing it or just the fact that there is not enough power with just veg.
Anyways, thank you
LLanier
Active Member
I'll be damned, she is starting to perk up. Thank you again .
rodclutcher
Member
i have no idea if red makes any difference all i know is my plants grow better using both while in veg. yeah the vipars are pretty weak. mine is 270w from the wall and is not really good enough for a 2.5x2.5ft space in flower 2x2ft max @ 18 inches
one good thing ill say about the light is mines been running about 3 yrs with no problem. mine is retraining after this grow
i have put a little amount time training this grow but this photo is in a 2.5x2ft space @ 18 inches 18/6 lighting . 4 weeks veg but from established clones
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LLanier
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I had to buy this in the spur of the moment when I found out my kit would take so long to get to me . I just had a small light to get them to sprout and thought by the time they got bigger I'd have my tent with the 600w kind led.
This had the best reviews for the price on Amazon lol.
So I guess now I have a light to use to get clones and starts going while I wait for the flowers to be ready for harvest on the current grow
rodclutcher
Member
its a good light to learn with on the cheap personally im happy i went for a vipar over a more expensive led because light isnt everything when it comes to producing good plants. id use it a few runs before spending more money. unless you have lots of that to go around
have you already payed for the 600w kind led. if so how much was it and can you get a refund. that's old led technology you don't want it anymore. id suggest starting a post and asking what led you should pick up next. id suggest a few but i have not used them so i cant comment even if i already know they are worthy
LLanier
Active Member
It's the newer k3 series they have . It comes with my whole tent kit . Gorilla tent with light. Inline fan, ducting. Carbon filter. Etc
MrGreenFingers99
Well-Known Member
Honestly dude, cancel that order and order everything yourself, how much is that package? I bet you can get much better equipment for cheaper buying it yourself!
I just looked at the K3 Series 600xl (is this what your getting?) and it costs $595 on sale, is old tech and the actual wattage is 288, trust me you are getting ripped off but you have come to the right place for advise!
Personally I would buy a quantum board straight off the bat now to get them above your girls, send back the Vipar and get your money back, then start ordering everything else, you will end up with a great setup, if you get this bundle you are getting now you will want to upgrade pretty soon I'm sure.
Your decision though bro and not trying to sound like a dick just trying to help out a fellow grower!
MrGreenFingers99
Well-Known Member
Sorry man not trying to hijack or troll your thread but here is another option for setup which will be better and cheaper then the package you are buying, please just think about it as these guys at supercloset are really ripping you off.
You will need some cable and wago connectors for the light and although it is DIY and not plug and play a 10 year old could put one together in 20 mins.
Tent
$135
Light
horticulturelightinggroup.com
$280
Driver for Light
www.digikey.co.uk
$65
Inline extractor fan
$150
Automated Pot System
$220
Carbon Filter
$60
Total $910
Supercloset package $1295
You could also save on the autopot system if you water by hand but I just tried to match what they were offering in there overpriced package
You will need some cable and wago connectors for the light and although it is DIY and not plug and play a 10 year old could put one together in 20 mins.
Tent
$135
Light
QB288 V2 Rspec & Slate 2 Triple
Ultra High Efficiency LED Boards for DIY. QB288 has 288pcs Samsung LM301H LED. One Triple Slate 2 heatsink.
horticulturelightinggroup.com
$280
Driver for Light
HLG-320H-C1750A MEAN WELL USA Inc. | Power Supplies - External/Internal (Off-Board) | DigiKey
Order today, ships today. HLG-320H-C1750A – 1.75A 91 ~ 183V Constant Current LED Driver AC DC Converter Topology 1 Output from MEAN WELL USA Inc.. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics.
$65
Inline extractor fan
$150
Automated Pot System
Amazon.com: AutoPot Spring Pot 4 Pot XL System with 12.4 gal Tank (5 gal Spring Pots): Kitchen & Dining
Buy AutoPot Spring Pot 4 Pot XL System with 12.4 gal Tank (5 gal Spring Pots): Pots - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
www.amazon.com
$220
Carbon Filter
$60
Total $910
Supercloset package $1295
You could also save on the autopot system if you water by hand but I just tried to match what they were offering in there overpriced package
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rodclutcher
Member
i have to say it but even the new mars hydro sp lights are better then kind led or even the new spider farm lights. personally i went for them because hgl are over priced in my countrySorry man not trying to hijack or troll your thread but here is another option for setup which will be better and cheaper then the package you are buying, please just think about it as these guys at supercloset are really ripping you off.
You will need some cable and wago connectors for the light and although it is DIY and not plug and play a 10 year old could put one together in 20 mins.
Tent
$135
Light
QB288 V2 Rspec & Slate 2 Triple
Ultra High Efficiency LED Boards for DIY. QB288 has 288pcs Samsung LM301H LED. One Triple Slate 2 heatsink.
$280
Driver for Light
HLG-320H-C1750A MEAN WELL USA Inc. | Power Supplies - External/Internal (Off-Board) | DigiKey
Order today, ships today. HLG-320H-C1750A – 1.75A 91 ~ 183V Constant Current LED Driver AC DC Converter Topology 1 Output from MEAN WELL USA Inc.. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics.
$65
Inline extractor fan
$150
Automated Pot System
Amazon.com: AutoPot Spring Pot 4 Pot XL System with 12.4 gal Tank (5 gal Spring Pots): Kitchen & Dining
Buy AutoPot Spring Pot 4 Pot XL System with 12.4 gal Tank (5 gal Spring Pots): Pots - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchaseswww.amazon.com
$220
Carbon Filter
$60
Total $910
Supercloset package $1295
You could also save on the autopot system if you water by hand but I just tried to match what they were offering in there overpriced package
LLanier
Active Member
The sole reason I got a supercloset kit is because I have no idea what everything I need is.Sorry man not trying to hijack or troll your thread but here is another option for setup which will be better and cheaper then the package you are buying, please just think about it as these guys at supercloset are really ripping you off.
You will need some cable and wago connectors for the light and although it is DIY and not plug and play a 10 year old could put one together in 20 mins.
Tent
$135
Light
QB288 V2 Rspec & Slate 2 Triple
Ultra High Efficiency LED Boards for DIY. QB288 has 288pcs Samsung LM301H LED. One Triple Slate 2 heatsink.
$280
Driver for Light
HLG-320H-C1750A MEAN WELL USA Inc. | Power Supplies - External/Internal (Off-Board) | DigiKey
Order today, ships today. HLG-320H-C1750A – 1.75A 91 ~ 183V Constant Current LED Driver AC DC Converter Topology 1 Output from MEAN WELL USA Inc.. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics.
$65
Inline extractor fan
$150
Automated Pot System
Amazon.com: AutoPot Spring Pot 4 Pot XL System with 12.4 gal Tank (5 gal Spring Pots): Kitchen & Dining
Buy AutoPot Spring Pot 4 Pot XL System with 12.4 gal Tank (5 gal Spring Pots): Pots - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchaseswww.amazon.com
$220
Carbon Filter
$60
Total $910
Supercloset package $1295
You could also save on the autopot system if you water by hand but I just tried to match what they were offering in there overpriced package
Like what goes with what. What size, blah blah blah.
This eliminated all that . I know there was cheaper options, I was just being lazy lol
I'm not unhappy with my purchase.
However in the future i will more than likely upgrade.
LLanier
Active Member
I tend to buy totally the wrong things lol. So I thought maybe the kit would help eliminate some of that .Sorry man not trying to hijack or troll your thread but here is another option for setup which will be better and cheaper then the package you are buying, please just think about it as these guys at supercloset are really ripping you off.
You will need some cable and wago connectors for the light and although it is DIY and not plug and play a 10 year old could put one together in 20 mins.
Tent
$135
Light
QB288 V2 Rspec & Slate 2 Triple
Ultra High Efficiency LED Boards for DIY. QB288 has 288pcs Samsung LM301H LED. One Triple Slate 2 heatsink.
$280
Driver for Light
HLG-320H-C1750A MEAN WELL USA Inc. | Power Supplies - External/Internal (Off-Board) | DigiKey
Order today, ships today. HLG-320H-C1750A – 1.75A 91 ~ 183V Constant Current LED Driver AC DC Converter Topology 1 Output from MEAN WELL USA Inc.. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics.
$65
Inline extractor fan
$150
Automated Pot System
Amazon.com: AutoPot Spring Pot 4 Pot XL System with 12.4 gal Tank (5 gal Spring Pots): Kitchen & Dining
Buy AutoPot Spring Pot 4 Pot XL System with 12.4 gal Tank (5 gal Spring Pots): Pots - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchaseswww.amazon.com
$220
Carbon Filter
$60
Total $910
Supercloset package $1295
You could also save on the autopot system if you water by hand but I just tried to match what they were offering in there overpriced package
LLanier
Active Member
All that being said, I do realize I wasted money. However to get a jump start, I cant complain. I used a 10% code from the 1245$
I guess in a sense the only thing I really wanted was the grow tent lol. I wasent going to get one of their cabinets because they arent worth the 2k plus .
The main cost is the kind led. While it is out dated . I have read good reviews and apparently they last quite long .
On a side note, does anyone know anything about them electric sky 300s?
I guess in a sense the only thing I really wanted was the grow tent lol. I wasent going to get one of their cabinets because they arent worth the 2k plus .
The main cost is the kind led. While it is out dated . I have read good reviews and apparently they last quite long .
On a side note, does anyone know anything about them electric sky 300s?
Couch_buzz
Well-Known Member
Buy Quantum boards, an HLG light, Cobkits, RapidLED ,or a Timber light.
Electric Sky is similar to Kind LED, a ripoff for what u pay. Kind lights are using 6 yr old technology, not efficient at all.
MrGreenFingers99
Well-Known Member
I get what your saying, when your new its complicated what exactly you need so buying a complete kit seems like it makes sense, but these guys are ripping you off, seriously think about cancelling that order and getting a refund on that Vipar, you will have the tent up and everything running in a couple hours or half a day at most, here is a complete list of what you will need to make it easy for you, this setup will grow you top shelf weed if you get the right genetics plus you will likely have some change out of what you've already decided on.
Some bits you can probably find cheaper but I just quickly found shit on Amazon.
Dont regret your decision in 6 months time!
Tent
https://www.amazon.com/King-Kong-2x4-Grow-Tent/dp/B07L48R2MK/ref=mp_s_a_1_16?keywords=24+x+48+x+80+grow+tent&qid=1581607397&s=lawn-garden&sr=1-16
Light
QB288 V2 Rspec & Slate 2 Triple
Ultra High Efficiency LED Boards for DIY. QB288 has 288pcs Samsung LM301H LED
Driver for Light
HLG-320H-C1750A MEAN WELL USA Inc. | Power Supplies - External/Internal (Off-Board) | DigiKey
Order today, ships today. HLG-320H-C1750A – 1.75A 91 ~ 183V Constant Current LED Driver AC DC Converter Topology 1 Output from MEAN WELL USA Inc.. Pricing and Availability on millions of electronic components from Digi-Key Electronics.
www.digikey.co.uk
Inline extractor fan
https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-CLOUDLINE-T6-Temperature/dp/B074XBXFPD
Automated Pot System
https://www.amazon.com/AutoPot-Smart-System-12-4-Tank/dp/B07RYXHYVV/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=autopot&qid=1581608102&sprefix=autopo&sr=8-7
Carbon Filter
https://www.amazon.com/AC-Infinity-Australian-Charcoal-Hydroponics/dp/B07GSKTT86/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=carbon+filter+6in&qid=1581608178&sprefix=carbon+fil&sr=8-5
Tools
Apera Instruments AI209 Value Series PH20 Waterproof pH Tester Kit, ±0.1 pH Accuracy, 0-14.0 pH Range: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
Apera Instruments AI209 Value Series PH20 Waterproof pH Tester Kit, ±0.1 pH Accuracy, 0-14.0 pH Range: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
www.amazon.com
Bluelab TRUNCOMV2 Commercial Truncheon Nutrient Meter - Soil Testers - Amazon.com
Bluelab TRUNCOMV2 Commercial Truncheon Nutrient Meter - Soil Testers - Amazon.com
www.amazon.com
Amazon.com: Comfort Zone 6 INCH - 2 Speed - Adjustable Tilt, Whisper Quiet Operation Clip-On-Fan with 5.5 Foot Cord and Steel Safety Grill, Black: Home & Kitchen
Amazon.com: Comfort Zone 6 INCH - 2 Speed - Adjustable Tilt, Whisper Quiet Operation Clip-On-Fan with 5.5 Foot Cord and Steel Safety Grill, Black: Home & Kitchen
www.amazon.com
Can-Fan Collar 6 in - pair
Mounting is made easy with the Can-Fan® Collars. Made with galvanized sheet steel collar and the interior has a 5mm neoprene seal to make a tight fit. These fast clamps are designed for noise reduction and sealing. Two screws are used to secure the fit.