Drooping, Dark Green Leaves?

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TopherJames

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Hello,

I have been attempting to grow my first plant, Chocolope Strain. I have been learning; however, there are a lot of things I do not know. One of my current issues is that the leaves on my plant are dark green and drooping downward. At first I thought it was due to overwatering, so I left it without water for 24<32 hours. I also invested in a hydrometer to monitor the soils moisture. I am unfortunately using Miracle Grow. I am not sure what is going on or how to fix it. I do not know the pH either. I am waiting on a pH meter to arrive. What should I do?
 

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I’m no expert, but I’m thinking it’s had too much water. Let the soil dry out more before you water again. Try picking up your pot to see how heavy it is when the soil dries out, so you can gage the next time she needs a drink. I’m almost 5 weeks since the light flip and I’ve noticed she hasn’t been drying out as fast as she was so I’ve dropped from 1litre 3x’s a week, to when my pot is light when I pick it up. I also grabbed a water globe thing to watch.
 

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Papa_Bear_Blunt78 said:
I’m no expert, but I’m thinking it’s had too much water. Let the soil dry out more before you water again. Try picking up your pot to see how heavy it is when the soil dries out, so you can gage the next time she needs a drink. I’m almost 5 weeks since the light flip and I’ve noticed she hasn’t been drying out as fast as she was so I’ve dropped from 1litre 3x’s a week, to when my pot is light when I pick it up. I also grabbed a water globe thing to watch.
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Alright! I took it away from its light for a night to let it get more air. The pot did feel a bit heavy, but my hydrometer is saying the soil is dry. I'm letting it dry up a little more before I asked another solution. Everything I've read referenced this issue to overwatering or under watering. Due to the moisture of the leaves, I'm assuming it's over watering. This morning when I looked at the plant, it looked a bit better, but not much!

Those pictures help out a lot too! I appreciate being able to see someone elses product progression!
 
curious2garden

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TopherJames said:
Yes. I drilled 8 ~1cm holes in the bottom. Is there a possibility that that isn't enough or large enough holes?
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You're putting the hygrometer in from the top right? Try it at the bottom and see what it registers there. If you are in a non airy substrate, say compacted soil a lot of water can be stored on the bottom with some blocking of drainage holes etc...
 
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curious2garden said:
You're putting the hygrometer in from the top right? Try it at the bottom and see what it registers there. If you are in a non airy substrate, say compacted soil a lot of water can be stored on the bottom with some blocking of drainage holes etc...
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I didn't think of that! I'll check that when I get home and give an update!
 
farmingfisherman

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Hey newbie here but it looks like you have lots of Nitrogen available to the plant and likely the plant isn't needing it now that the stretch has happened. Have you flushed the plants? My 2 cents. Possible to get anything other that MG?
 
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farmingfisherman said:
Hey newbie here but it looks like you have lots of Nitrogen available to the plant and likely the plant isn't needing it now that the stretch has happened. Have you flushed the plants? My 2 cents. Possible to get anything other that MG?
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So, I've read about too much nitrogen being the problem; however, I do not know the proper way to flush a plant. I don't want to harm the plant by doing it wrong.
 
curious2garden

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TopherJames said:
So, I've read about too much nitrogen being the problem; however, I do not know the proper way to flush a plant. I don't want to harm the plant by doing it wrong.
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You are in MG so every single time you give it water you release nutrients. Therefore you must run very dry. I would not have put her in that deep bucket with few holes and I would have tried cutting the MG with 50% perlite but I grow soilless. So that's why I am postulating retained moisture (dark green and slumping). She's over fed and not getting much oxygen at her roots..
 
Couch_Lock

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A good way to improve root health is this:

Add 30 millileters (one fluid oz) of 3% hydrogen peroxide to a GALLON of tap water ph'd to about 6.5

Use this to water..........water till u see it begin to drip thru the bottom.......Wait at least 48 hours to water again.......when that pot container is light, but not BEFORE 48 hours

Hopefully you are using a fabric pot, so roots can breath......If not drill 4 or 5 holes in the sides of those containers.......make sure you have a low fan and a high fan running in that tent or grow space.

You will see improvement. Thank me later.
 
LobstaPiinch

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Are you watering on a schedule? Or are you relying on your plants to tell you when they need water? I never water on a schedule, every plant is different every single day of it’s life cycle, if I grow in soil I always use my hands to feel the dirt and I lift the pot to check the weight. I know what a dry pot feels like and I know what a wet pot feels like. In time, you will learn too! Good luck!
 
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curious2garden said:
You are in MG so every single time you give it water you release nutrients. Therefore you must run very dry. I would not have put her in that deep bucket with few holes and I would have tried cutting the MG with 50% perlite but I grow soilless. So that's why I am postulating retained moisture (dark green and slumping). She's over fed and not getting much oxygen at her roots..
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Unfortunately when I first planted my seed, I was excited and bought MG without doing my research! My future plants will have better quality materials to ensure this doesn't happen again!
 
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Couch_Lock said:
A good way to improve root health is this:

Add 30 millileters (one fluid oz) of 3% hydrogen peroxide to a GALLON of tap water ph'd to about 6.5

Use this to water..........water till u see it begin to drip thru the bottom.......Wait at least 48 hours to water again.......when that pot container is light, but not BEFORE 48 hours

Hopefully you are using a fabric pot, so roots can breath......If not drill 4 or 5 holes in the sides of those containers.......make sure you have a low fan and a high fan running in that tent or grow space.

You will see improvement. Thank me later.
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Very good information! I'll see to make these moves when I get back to my plant! I appreciate the information!
 
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LobstaPiinch said:
Are you watering on a schedule? Or are you relying on your plants to tell you when they need water? I never water on a schedule, every plant is different every single day of it’s life cycle, if I grow in soil I always use my hands to feel the dirt and I lift the pot to check the weight. I know what a dry pot feels like and I know what a wet pot feels like. In time, you will learn too! Good luck!
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I am not on a watering schedule. I usually water my plant when the soil is dry; however, I am new to monitoring moisture under the surface, so I may have been misjudging my watering amounts a bit.
 
curious2garden

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TopherJames said:
Unfortunately when I first planted my seed, I was excited and bought MG without doing my research! My future plants will have better quality materials to ensure this doesn't happen again!
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I know other people who have successfully grown very nice plants in MG. But you have to be very very careful about having a pot you won't overwater yet holds enough wetness you can go awhile between watering. When you get home check wetness from the bottom, if she's still wet let her dry out before adding more water. If you open more holes in the pot which you may need to do, be aware you will have to water more which means more nutrient release so it's a balance.

If you choose to add holes start conservatively.
 
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