Bloomberg to the rescue

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Here are some screenshots for clarity. First of all this is what sparked the convo 4 months ago..

View attachment 4486462

Here is some more context, along with my correcting the error you pointed out, yet still you quote me with the incorrect info, because you choose disinformation over truth. Yes I did make a mistake with the 4%, and yes it's closer to 18%, as I stated to you months ago, but like a pit bull you can't let it go.

View attachment 4486463
This is typical of your posts. Just a bunch of red herrings that you drop to cover the fact that you are a fake identity and instead are a right wing troll.

Your replies to my queries regarding the meaning of your post were dismissed as if they were taken out of context, which they certainly were not. It's too late now. You had your chance back then but refused. Now that you realize people are paying attention, you concoct some bullshit story,

In any case, you still haven't explained yourself. There is no connection between the race of truck drivers and their immigrant status. Why you had to include skin color as if skin color were an indication of immigration status or ability to secure work in a truck is also not explained. None of what you claim is explained by anything in that thread. But you know that. The difference is, people aren't buying your BS. Yet you stick around, flailing away. Must be awful having to explain this to your paymaster. It's all so ridiculous.
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
This is typical of your posts. Just a bunch of red herrings that you drop to cover the fact that you are a fake identity and instead are a right wing troll.

Your replies to my queries regarding the meaning of your post were dismissed as if they were taken out of context, which they certainly were not. It's too late now. You had your chance back then but refused. Now that you realize people are paying attention, you concoct some bullshit story,

In any case, you still haven't explained yourself. There is no connection between the race of truck drivers and their immigrant status. Why you had to include skin color as if skin color were an indication of immigration status or ability to secure work in a truck is also not explained. None of what you claim is explained by anything in that thread. But you know that. The difference is, people aren't buying your BS. Yet you stick around, flailing away. Must be awful having to explain this to your paymaster. It's all so ridiculous.
I'm clearly much more liberal than you are. Have never voted right wing in my life, and support open immigration. I've studied and support social justice, and condemn racism in all forms. If you misunderstood my original point regardless of my attempts at offering explanations, I am left to only assume that you don't want to understand. You preach against sewing division, but you constantly sew division here yourself.

If my original statement seemed to somehow have racist undertones to you, all I can do is say that perhaps I should have communicated differently, and that it was not my intent. I support people of all colors to have equal opportunities and fair treatment.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
I'm clearly much more liberal than you are. Have never voted right wing in my life, and support open immigration. I've studied and support social justice, and condemn racism in all forms. If you misunderstood my original point regardless of my attempts at offering explanations, I am left to only assume that you don't want to understand. You preach against sewing division, but you constantly sew division here yourself.

If my original statement seemed to somehow have racist undertones to you, all I can do is say that perhaps I should have communicated differently, and that it was not my intent. I support people of all colors to have equal opportunities and fair treatment.
You know, I've never posted white supremacist lies and then tried to make the other person out to be the racist. So, I'm curious.

Why?
 

Couch_Lock

Well-Known Member
"“If Biden, Buttigieg and Klobuchar remain in the race despite having no path to appreciably collecting delegates on Super Tuesday and beyond, they will propel Sanders to a seemingly insurmountable delegate lead by siphoning votes away from Mike Bloomberg,” Bloomberg campaign advisers Kevin Sheekey and Howard Wolfson wrote this week."
Agree, with most of that. Biden + Klobachar are toast, wasting donor money and drawing votes away from others.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Agree, with most of that. Biden + Klobachar are toast, wasting donor money and drawing votes away from others.
Not if one believes that a Sanders nominee can't beat Trump. Sanders will have a plurality of something like 25% of delegates going in to the convention. The objective is to keep him from gaining the nomination by gaming the system, even if we have to game the system to stop him.

I support Warren's continued push for the nomination even though I believe she can't win it. I think her opposition to Sanders sends an important message to others about Bernie's fake credentials as a Progressive leader.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Not if one believes that a Sanders nominee can't beat Trump. Sanders will have a plurality of something like 25% of delegates going in to the convention. The objective is to keep him from gaining the nomination by gaming the system, even if we have to game the system to stop him.

I support Warren's continued push for the nomination even though I believe she can't win it. I think her opposition to Sanders sends an important message to others about Bernie's fake credentials as a Progressive leader.
Where did you get that 25% number from ?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Where did you get that 25% number from ?
Are you pulling my leg? If so, I'm laughing because pad and pj have both asked that and I've answered both.

NH and Iowa polling data. Bernie got 25%-26% of the vote in both of those contests. This is actual primary election polling data, not opinion polls. Those states are in Bernies demographic wheelhouse. Yet 75% of Democrats voted for somebody else. All the hype about Bernie is just that.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
Are you pulling my leg? If so, I'm laughing because pad and pj have both asked that and I've answered both.

NH and Iowa polling data. Bernie got 25%-26% of the vote in both of those contests. This is actual primary election polling data, not opinion polls. Those states are in Bernies demographic wheelhouse. Yet 75% of Democrats voted for somebody else. All the hype about Bernie is just that.
are we now adding Nevada ? We still have a lot of states to finish , so how can you say 25% going into the convention? We have no idea what the percentage will be...that is why I asked
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
The intent behind repeating white supremacist lies is easily understood.
why are you still even trying?
Well, I'm sorry that I didn't express myself in a way you could relate to. #truthmatters

I believe that you would both also agree that if the only immigration which was allowed was that of white immigrants, then it would be a racist immigration policy. This is why race matters when it comes to immigration. Unfortunately immigrants from many countries of predominantly non-white citizens are discriminated against in Trump's current immigration policies. I believe discrimination such as that is wrong, and my guess if that you do too.

At the end of the day I'm opposed to racial discrimination, and you say that you are as well, so what's the point of this division you are attempting to create anyway? You might want to instead choose a target who supports racial discrimination.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Well, I'm sorry that I didn't express myself in a way you could relate to. #truthmatters

I believe that you would both also agree that if the only immigration which was allowed was that of white immigrants, then it would be a racist immigration policy. This is why race matters when it comes to immigration. Unfortunately immigrants from many countries of predominantly non-white citizens are discriminated against in Trump's current immigration policies. I believe discrimination such as that is wrong, and my guess if that you do too.

At the end of the day I'm opposed to racial discrimination, and you say that you are as well, so what's the point of this division you are attempting to create anyway? You might want to instead choose a target who supports racial discrimination.
It's too late, dude.

You were given the opportunity to explain yourself then. And you just said "out of context, blah, blah" also "show me where I said that". The second bit of bullshit is especially obnoxious because it's an obvious troll-trick that requires work on the part of the accuser. Yet, I prevailed, found the bullshit quotes, showed it wasn't taken out of context and you disappeared for a while. I liked that. Months later you come back with some story about how you explained yourself when you in fact you did not.

Quit lying and give up already.
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
It's too late, dude.

You were given the opportunity to explain yourself then. And you just said "out of context, blah, blah" also "show me where I said that". The second bit of bullshit is especially obnoxious because it's an obvious troll-trick that requires work on the part of the accuser. Yet, I prevailed, found the bullshit quotes, showed it wasn't taken out of context and you disappeared for a while. I liked that. Months later you come back with some story about how you explained yourself when you in fact you did not.

Quit lying and give up already.
Why would I lie? I did explain myself initially, and have several times since. You don't get it because you don't want to get it. You'd rather sew division.

You seem to target me because I am a liberal and you are a slightly left-leaning moderate. Weird since we are both still left of center, and both speak against racism. You might be better off spending your energy on actual racists instead of liberals you disagree with.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Why would I lie? I did explain myself initially, and have several times since. You don't get it because you don't want to get it. You'd rather sew division.

You seem to target me because I am a liberal and you are a slightly left-leaning moderate. Weird since we are both still left of center, and both speak against racism. You might be better off spending your energy on actual racists instead of liberals you disagree with.
I'm just showing your lies to others. Your reason for lying is yours explain.

I've consistently explained my objections to your divisive and false posts. Don't ask me why you continue. I'd have stopped a long time ago.
 

PJ Diaz

Well-Known Member
I'm just showing your lies to others. Your reason for lying is yours explain.

I've consistently explained my objections to your divisive and false posts. Don't ask me why you continue. I'd have stopped a long time ago.
Your misunderstanding does not equal me lying. I continue defending myself because you continue to attack me. If you want me to stop defending myself, then stop your attacks. You sound like a broken record anyway.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Your misunderstanding does not equal me lying. I continue defending myself because you continue to attack me. If you want me to stop defending myself, then stop your attacks. You sound like a broken record anyway.
no one is attacking you, racist
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Your misunderstanding does not equal me lying. I continue defending myself because you continue to attack me. If you want me to stop defending myself, then stop your attacks. You sound like a broken record anyway.
You asked ME why you lied. Retorting back that I'm in no position to explain YOUR thoughts is not an attack on you. Your hurt feelz aren't my concern either.
 
Top