Russia is supporting Bernie Sanders as well as Trump again in 2020.

[Fogdog]

But people saying they are not going to vote for Bernie means you don't mind Trump.

Not vote for Bernie in the fall if he wins the nomination? Who in this board are saying that?

You have people complaining about Bernie taxes when they not even making over 60,000 a year.. hell some not even 40,000. Ask them about Bernie tax plan and they are clueless. People bitching about Health care for all, but could not get insurance before ACC. Some don't even have health care still. good luck with that.

It's not the taxes that I hear people complaining about, it's promises for free stuff without any idea how much it will cost or how it will be paid for.

Bernie has not laid out how he will pay for his health care plan. The Congressional Office of Management and Budget came out with a report that covered the subject but couldn't come up with a price tag for Bernie's plan. It's all just smoke and mirrors from a Senator who hasn't done anything of note in his time as one, 12+ years. Not only that but his one clear statement is that everybody who has a healthcare plan and likes it will have it stripped from them. That's a huge number. More than a hundred million people. In a close election, those people matter.

He doesn't work well with others, rides on working law makers' coat tails by claiming some sort of prize when he votes for them, if he shows up to vote at all, which happens 40% of the time. He has a history of turning on Democrats when convenient. What makes you think he can get any of his promises passed through a divided congress, even if Democrats by some miracle win a majority in the senate?

For those reasons, I can't support him during this primary. Beyond that, just look at his recent results in primaries. He's getting dismal results. 25% in Iowa, 26% in NH and 46% in Nevada. He can't even pull a majority of votes from Democrats. What makes you think he can draw votes from more centrist or moderate conservatives in order to win in a close election? What makes you think Bernie can win in the fall?

You claim to stick to facts. What in my statement can you say is untrue?

 

[UncleBuck]

are you denying your comment on your New York trip ?

so you’re saying that I had a sock puppet for a day or two about 5-6 years ago?

Top notch research!

 

[UncleBuck]

Math must not have been your strong suit. How many candidates were running is a factor you must use. Landslide

the landslide is for anyone but Bernie, mathematically

 

[londonfog]

so you’re saying that I had a sock puppet for a day or two about 5-6 years ago?

Top notch research!

Who said you kept them for a day a two. I said you needed to set them up using different ip's. Once set up and verified email you can keep them forever using a vpn. in which you did . Why the need to set up puppets when others can not

 

[londonfog]

the landslide is for anyone but Bernie, mathematically

does math hurt you? how many were running in 2016 ? two Hillary and Bernie...we can say 3 if you count uncommitted. 47.03 was his percentage then
How many running in 2020 caucus ? We will say 6 ...7 if we include noncommitted. 46.04 equals landslide.

 

[londonfog]

Not vote for Bernie in the fall if he wins the nomination? Who in this board are saying that?

Abandonconflict

 

[hanimmal]

does math hurt you? how many were running in 2016 ? two Hillary and Bernie...we can say 3 if you count uncommitted. 47.03 was his percentage then
How many running in 2020 caucus ? We will say 6 ...7 if we include noncommitted. 46.04 equals landslide.

I guess that is what happens when you have a 4 year head stanton cheating in the elections.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Abandonconflict

I believe abandon said on one of the threads he would bite the bullet and vote for Bernie, but only at the point of a gun!

 

[londonfog]

For those reasons, I can't support him during this primary. Beyond that, just look at his recent results in primaries. He's getting dismal results. 25% in Iowa, 26% in NH and 46% in Nevada. He can't even pull a majority of votes from Democrats. What makes you think he can draw votes from more centrist or moderate conservatives in order to win in a close election? What makes you think Bernie can win in the fall?

You claim to stick to facts. What in my statement can you say is untrue?

you using the word dismal in a field of 6-8 running. Rather dishonest or you are very bad with math. Take NH for instance, and say it was a pizza. You got a quarter of the pizza while 10 others split the rest...who eating good. Moving to Nevada same pizza you getting 46 percent of that pizza while 6 others get the rest ? How the fuck is that dismal ? Either you are dishonest or very bad in math. You choose

 

[Padawanbater2]

does math hurt you? how many were running in 2016 ? two Hillary and Bernie...we can say 3 if you count uncommitted. 47.03 was his percentage then
How many running in 2020 caucus ? We will say 6 ...7 if we include noncommitted. 46.04 equals landslide.

When he won Iowa and New Hampshire, the talking point was "but he lost all of his support from last time!", now when he dominates Nevada and pulls in the same amount of support as last time with 7 more candidates running against him, they go back to the same fallacious argument as before..

I wonder what the talking point will be when he wins South Carolina and marches to the nomination after sweeping up on Super Tuesday

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Bernie came on board immediately and urged his supporters to do so, those democrats who oppose him should show similar grace and wisdom if he wins.
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Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton (Entire speech)

Sen. Bernie Sanders officially endorsed presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton at a rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

Bernie Sanders surprises crowd, moves to nominate Clinton by voice vote at the 2016 DNC

 

[Padawanbater2]

Bernie came on board immediately and urged his supporters to do so, those democrats who oppose him should show similar grace and wisdom if he wins.
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Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton (Entire speech)

Sen. Bernie Sanders officially endorsed presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton at a rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

Bernie Sanders surprises crowd, moves to nominate Clinton by voice vote at the 2016 DNC

The funny thing is he still gets shit from people for doing that

Some people believe Sanders should have never endorsed Clinton and still refuse to support him today, other people believe he should have endorsed her after Super Tuesday, even though he was garnering leverage to push the party in a more progressive direction. Both camps attempt to weaponize Sanders' endorsement in 2016 against him, there is literally no position he could have taken that would not be wrong in the eyes of the people who will always be against him regardless.

Whatever the case, it's clear at this point he made the right call back then, seeing as he's the clear frontrunner in this election

 

[hanimmal]

Bernie came on board immediately and urged his supporters to do so, those democrats who oppose him should show similar grace and wisdom if he wins.
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Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton (Entire speech)

Sen. Bernie Sanders officially endorsed presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton at a rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

Bernie Sanders surprises crowd, moves to nominate Clinton by voice vote at the 2016 DNC

He dragged it out until July. Giving Trump an extra month of running and forcing Clinton into being a month behind Trump's campaigning.

 

[londonfog]

I believe abandon said on one of the threads he would bite the bullet and vote for Bernie, but only at the point of a gun!

looking back he has said both. so I guess it will depend on his mood nov 3 and If he has been drinking or not

 

[hanimmal]

The funny thing is he still gets shit from people for doing that

Some people believe Sanders should have never endorsed Clinton and still refuse to support him today, other people believe he should have endorsed her after Super Tuesday, even though he was garnering leverage to push the party in a more progressive direction. Both camps attempt to weaponize Sanders' endorsement in 2016 against him, there is literally no position he could have taken that would not be wrong in the eyes of the people who will always be against him regardless.

Whatever the case, it's clear at this point he made the right call back then, seeing as he's the clear frontrunner in this election

Of course Putin and MBS would think that too, because Trump got elected giving them exactly what they wanted when they started attacking our election in support of Trump and Bernie.

 

[UncleBuck]

Who said you kept them for a day a two. I said you needed to set them up using different ip's. Once set up and verified email you can keep them forever using a vpn. in which you did . Why the need to set up puppets when others can not

cool theory!

Tell me who all these sock puppet accounts are then

 

[UncleBuck]

does math hurt you? how many were running in 2016 ? two Hillary and Bernie...we can say 3 if you count uncommitted. 47.03 was his percentage then
How many running in 2020 caucus ? We will say 6 ...7 if we include noncommitted. 46.04 equals landslide.

Looks like more people want anyone but Bernie, mathematically

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

He dragged it out until July. Giving Trump an extra month of running and forcing Clinton into being a month behind Trump's campaigning.

It's the convention that counts, yer petty fogging

 

[Padawanbater2]

Of course Putin and MBS would think that too, because Trump got elected giving them exactly what they wanted when they started attacking our election in support of Trump and Bernie.

You keep pushing that little piece of propaganda after multiple instances of being corrected by others. I can only assume you know it to be incorrect, and continue to push it anyway

Why are you trying to spread false propaganda about the Democratic candidate most likely to defeat Trump in a general election?

 

[UncleBuck]

looking back he has said both. so I guess it will depend on his mood nov 3 and If he has been drinking or not

i would trust a drunk any day over a lying sack of shit like you