Transplant shock day 1? (Leaf edges curling up/shrunk)

[Swanfly2345]

Transplanted from a 3 gal pot to about an 18 gallon shopping bag, which I’m sure I will receive plenty of criticism for, since it was already over potted in its original container. (Want to grow a massive plant for as long as possible.)

Notice how even though there’s more leaves in the first picture, the plant appears shrunken and shriveled. Or is it an illusion? (Transplanted one is the one under purple light.)

Will she recover? (400w HPS w/supplemental LED’s, 80-84 degrees, 40% RH, soil ph 6.8

High temperatures and low humidity are perhaps contributing to her sickliness. Or it’s just engrained in the bag seed’s genetics. (Younger leaves look better than the older ones.)

Any ideas?

 

[OldMedUser]

Always cut back on the light a bit with an ailing plant. A 400 is more than enough for a couple of plants and should be at least 18" away until the plant pics up and gets going.

8MB pics suck to open so maybe a little lower resolution to cut down the file size maybe?

Low RH doesn't help either so hang a wet towel or two in there to boost the RH a bit or fire up a humidifier.

How many LEDs do you have? Might help to switch off the 400 and just use them to keep the temps down until times are better too.

Good luck.

 

[StareCase]

We all advocate that bigger pots are better. Let's hope that the plastic film lining the inside of that bag holds out for 4+ months. Those things are designed to carry dry goods for a short period. But - you are now done with transplanting. It's time to let the roots love their new home. Do you have any small drainage holes at the bottom of that bag? Would be a real piss off to be derailed by root rot.

If the leaves curl upwards like that at the edges, the light might be too much, too close or both. I agree with OMU ... start by turning that HPS off. At this stage, the LED's will veg nicely on their own - and the nice purple hue tells me the kind of LED. What is the total wattage?

I believe this has been suggested already - put those lights at least 26" - 30" above the canopy (just to start - you will be lowering them eventually), go to an 18/6 light schedule to induce a little stretch during the dark period - then leave them alone. After a few days have passed and you see new growth, you can gradually lower the lights a couple of inches every couple of days until they are 18" - 20" above the canopy.

 

[Swanfly2345]

We all advocate that bigger pots are better. Let's hope that the plastic film lining the inside of that bag holds out for 4+ months. Those things are designed to carry dry goods for a short period. But - you are now done with transplanting. It's time to let the roots love their new home. Do you have any small drainage holes at the bottom of that bag? Would be a real piss off to be derailed by root rot.

If the leaves curl upwards like that at the edges, the light might be too much, too close or both. I agree with OMU ... start by turning that HPS off. At this stage, the LED's will veg nicely on their own - and the nice purple hue tells me the kind of LED. What is the total wattage?

I believe this has been suggested already - put those lights at least 26" - 30" above the canopy (just to start - you will be lowering them eventually), go to an 18/6 light schedule to induce a little stretch during the dark period - then leave them alone. After a few days have passed and you see new growth, you can gradually lower the lights a couple of inches every couple of days until they are 18" - 20" above the canopy.

Good advice. I raised the lights to about 24” from 14-16ish. Yes, I butchered the bottom of the bag. Good idea to get this plant stretching in the dark—I have been persistently topping and fimming it to increase its bushiness before it grows taller. Hopefully it works. I am going to push this vegetative stage to hopefully minimum of 9 weeks, perhaps moving it outdoors eventually and bringing it in each night. Looks like I germinated a good time of year for an outdoor grow from what I’ve read.

Total watts- 475-500

 

[Swanfly2345]

Always cut back on the light a bit with an ailing plant. A 400 is more than enough for a couple of plants and should be at least 18" away until the plant pics up and gets going.

8MB pics suck to open so maybe a little lower resolution to cut down the file size maybe?

Low RH doesn't help either so hang a wet towel or two in there to boost the RH a bit or fire up a humidifier.

How many LEDs do you have? Might help to switch off the 400 and just use them to keep the temps down until times are better too.

Good luck.

Thanks for the help. About 75w of true LED’s are shining on the plant, just to get the extra spectrums in. So I raised the HPS to about 24” to lower heat. It lowered 3 degrees to 81. 2 humidifiers are now on, and the rh is at 55.

 

[Swanfly2345]

We all advocate that bigger pots are better. Let's hope that the plastic film lining the inside of that bag holds out for 4+ months. Those things are designed to carry dry goods for a short period. But - you are now done with transplanting. It's time to let the roots love their new home. Do you have any small drainage holes at the bottom of that bag? Would be a real piss off to be derailed by root rot.

If the leaves curl upwards like that at the edges, the light might be too much, too close or both. I agree with OMU ... start by turning that HPS off. At this stage, the LED's will veg nicely on their own - and the nice purple hue tells me the kind of LED. What is the total wattage?

I believe this has been suggested already - put those lights at least 26" - 30" above the canopy (just to start - you will be lowering them eventually), go to an 18/6 light schedule to induce a little stretch during the dark period - then leave them alone. After a few days have passed and you see new growth, you can gradually lower the lights a couple of inches every couple of days until they are 18" - 20" above the canopy.

Looks like it may not even be worth my time after all. Still awaiting feminized seeds in mail.