Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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Here we go, 3 cases confirmed in Nova Scotia today, 2 in Halifax and one in the Annapolis Valley. No toilet paper, ibuprofen or tylenol on the shelves. All stocked up on, flour, yeast, rice, pasta, frozen fruit and veggies, and I always have a freezer full of chicken, turkey, and fish.

Work is cancelled for the next 3 weeks, thank fuck my salary and protected by my union contract. Da wife will be working from home as of next week sometime. Oh well, the dog will be happy for all the extra walks!!!

Been in trim prison all day yesterday, so lots of meds to keep from going shack wacky.

Good luck everyone, stay safe!!!
I've been looking around for the 3 cases in Nova Scotia online, can't seem to find them, but they are most likely real. I guess it's in our back yard now Burt, lots of old people in NS. Gonna go up to the grocery store early tomorrow morning to stock up on extras, I and most folks are getting ready for a long spell at home and far fewer trips to the grocery store. If the experience of other places is anything to go by, you might not be allowed to go out except to buy essentials. I've already got most of what I need, extra cat food and canned milk etc.
 

radiant Rudy

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Trump: ‘Strongly Considering Full Pardon’ for Michael Flynn

THIS IS WHAT’S ON HIS MIND?
Emma Tucker
Updated Mar. 15, 2020 5:00PM ET / Published Mar. 15, 2020 2:11PM

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In the midst of the coronavirus crisis, President Trump took time on Sunday to tweet that he is considering a “full pardon” to former national security advisor Michael Flynn, who is currently trying to withdraw his guilty plea to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian officials. “So now it is reported that, after destroying his life & the life of his wonderful family (and many others also), the FBI, working in conjunction with the Justice Department, has ‘lost’ the records of General Michael Flynn,” the president tweeted. “How convenient. I am strongly considering a Full Pardon!” He did not elaborate on the reference to lost records, which appears to be unsubstantiated. Flynn, who served just 24 days as Trump’s national security advisor, pleaded guilty in 2017 but his sentencing was postponed indefinitely last month amid his request to change his plea.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Have a look at these numbers from ncov2019.live
The US appears to have a 6X greater death rate and 6x more serious cases than Canada and we've been testing all along.

Canada, 1/10 US population
247 infected
1 dead
0 serious

USA
3,621 infected*
63 dead
60 serious

*Testing issues, true figure might be 6 times that and most likely more, if Canadian figures are accurate, the USA could also be further along the curve than us, they got it earlier than we did and it was undetected and silently spreading.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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From my reading on the coronavirus crisis I think more than social distancing might be required in America and Canada too. I think we need to flatten the curve as the experts say but use that time to create temporary treatment centers (ie abandoned malls and retail stores) and a crash wartime like program to build good enough standard ventilators (liberty ships) and the assemble other things and human resources required to deal with this scale of a problem. Have a mobile reserve that can go to overwhelmed areas with personnel and ventilators etc. To keep the curve below the current hospital capacity would mean lengthening it to years and a vaccine is probably a year away in a rush, which it will be. Sounds like a job for military logistical planners, ventilators are like weapons... Call China, we need a million ventilators in the next 60 days, want a challenge? Fly them to where they are needed as soon as they are made.
 
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Fogdog

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From my reading on the coronavirus crisis I think more than social distancing might be required in America and Canada too. I think we need to flatten the curve as the experts say but use that time to create temporary treatment centers (ie abandoned malls and retail stores) and a crash wartime like program to build good enough standard ventilators (liberty ships) and the assemble other things and human resources required to deal with this scale of the problem. Have a mobile reserve that can go to overwhelmed areas with personnel and ventilators etc. To keep the curve below the current hospital capacity would mean lengthening it to years and a vaccine is probably a year away in a rush, which it will be. Sounds like a job for military logistical planners, ventilators are like weapons... Call China, we need a million ventilators in the next 60 days, want a challenge? Fly them to where they are needed as soon as they are made.
Looking at Capn's post that contains the table comparing Italy with the US, parts of the US (like mine) are just days away from entering crisis mode. @greg nr posted this link:


It shows how effective self isolation can be -- if a large enough proportion of the community self isolates. I hope it's right (I think it is) because we don't have time to implement anything else in our area. It's probably too late to even think about getting more new ventilators available in time for our crisis. Not that buying more would be a bad thing, just, not going to help where I live.

What Canada does is up to Canada but I've seen more rational government up there than here, so I'm hoping your country has a smoother ride than we will have.
 

BurtMaklin

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I've been looking around for the 3 cases in Nova Scotia online, can't seem to find them, but they are most likely real. I guess it's in our back yard now Burt, lots of old people in NS. Gonna go up to the grocery store early tomorrow morning to stock up on extras, I and most folks are getting ready for a long spell at home and far fewer trips to the grocery store. If the experience of other places is anything to go by, you might not be allowed to go out except to buy essentials. I've already got most of what I need, extra cat food and canned milk etc.
McNeil held a press conference this afternoon at 3 PM. Strang called them "Presumptive" cases where they tested positive in a NS lab but have not yet been confirmed by the "official" lab in Winnipeg.

Schools and daycares are closed until April 3rd, even the Casinos in Halifax and Sydney are closing at midnight tonight. Shit is gonna be fucked up with no end in sight. Judging by the swiftness of the response and the seriousness with which they are reacting to this, I would wager a guess we will be in some form of lockdown by the end of the week with only essential services out and about.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Lawyers and judges swear an oath to the queen
You're confused, you think you're in Canada, but you appear to be confused about a lot of things. What are you doing for the Trump plague? Gonna collect some of the Trump Dole? Doing Trump time waiting it out? Talk about Trump socialism! Make sure you don't end up in prison, it's gonna be a real riot there. He sure is gonna own this one, toast in November for sure.
 

doublejj

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Flu season is hitting its stride right now in the US. So far, the CDC has estimated (based on weekly influenza surveillance data) that at least 12,000 people have died from influenza between Oct. 1, 2019 through Feb. 1, 2020, and the number of deaths may be as high as 30,000.Feb 11, 2020

From health magazine,how many deaths in America so far?
Many of those "flu" deaths were likely from Caronavirus.....because nobody tested them...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Couldn't help it, DIY a possible ventilator solution! Says this type of ventilator will work with this problem (I mean the professionally made ones).
Basically an iron lung like those used for polio.

Necessity is the mother of invention, I've got a shop, McIver skills and junk, hmmm...
Cuirass Ventilator the DIY way

A more professional, engineered approach... I wonder how many of these the military has stockpiled?
Coronavirus (COVID-19) | Pandemic Ventilator | Biphasic Cuirass Ventilation

Recent incidents and growing pandemic concerns such as Coronavirus (COVID-19) have raised awareness of the acute problem of treating and dealing with mass emergency situations. One particular issue of great concern is the lack of an adequate way to deal with large groups of people requiring ventilation quickly and effectively.

Biphasic Cuirass Ventilation (BCV) is a real answer to this problem. BCV provides an efficient and effective method of non-invasive external ventilation and is a real alternative to traditional forms of ventilation. Biphasic Cuirass Ventilation does not require skilled medical professionals, and almost anyone can apply BCV to a patient with minimal training.

With BCV:
- Complete and effective ventilation without intubation.
- No need for skilled medical staff.
- Simplicity of use even when cumbersome protective gear is worn.
- Portable – from the field to the medical centre with no need for additional equipment.
- Controls of both phases of the respiratory cycle, inspiration and expiration.
- Cardiopulmonary Support in a truly natural way.

In a recent report, the Center for Health Security at Johns Hopkins estimated the United States of America has a total of 160,000 ventilators available for patient. This leaves more than 99% of the United States population without any available form of ventilation in the event of a pandemic outbreak, such as coronavirus. Current ventilator capacity and usage in the United States is about 75% to 95% utilized with existing cases (COPD, elderly, accident victims, trauma, post surgical, cardiac, etc). A study run by the federal government in 2005 estimated that if the United States of America were hit with a moderate pandemic like the influenza of 1957, the country would need more than 60,000 ventilators. If the United States were struck with a severe pandemic like the Spanish flu of 1918, it is estimated we would need more than 740,000 ventilators — many times more than are available.
 
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Jimdamick

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TRUMP'S CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION JUST CREATED HUNDREDS OF NEW COVID-19 SUPERSPREADERS
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Jim White
Cutoms and Border Protection completely botched the rollout of Trump's new "screening" of passengers returning from Europe. At least thirteen airports reported delays of 3-7 hours to clear Customs. During these delays, passengers were standing shoulder to shoulder, likely spreading a virus that can be very contagious even when the carrier shows no symptoms.
MotherFucking idiot
 

Jimdamick

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Have a look at these numbers from ncov2019.live
The US appears to have a 6X greater death rate and 6x more serious cases than Canada and we've been testing all along.

Canada, 1/10 US population
247 infected
1 dead
0 serious

USA
3,621 infected*
63 dead
60 serious

*Testing issues, true figure might be 6 times that and most likely more, if Canadian figures are accurate, the USA could also be further along the curve than us, they got it earlier than we did and it was undetected and silently spreading.
And it's only just begun

 

DIY-HP-LED

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We might have to focus our efforts at self isolating people over 60 for months and moderating its spread as much as we can in the rest of the population to help the healthcare system. I'm 65 in reasonably good health and fortunately retired, self isolation is my plan, for as long as I can.
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Coronavirus: Elderly could face four months of self-isolation as 14 more people die in the UK
 

Jimdamick

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Biden just won the Election tonight.
He was wonderfull & Sanders just spewed his BS, directed @ 20 something's that means shit too the majority.
Uncle Joe actually sounded eloquent :)
He actually stated that he was going to name a woman as his VP.
Game fucking over :)
 

londonfog

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Biden just won the Election tonight.
He was wonderfull & Sanders just spewed his BS, directed @ 20 something's that means shit too the majority.
Uncle Joe actually sounded eloquent :)
He actually stated that he was going to name a woman as his VP.
Game fucking over :)
Depends on the woman ( please not Amy ), but yeah the fact he would even pick a black woman for the SCOTUS is awesome...well as long as we don't get a female Clarence Thomas
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Depends on the woman ( please not Amy ), but yeah the fact he would even pick a black woman for the SCOTUS is awesome...well as long as we don't get a female Clarence Thomas
Ya gotta admit London Jim Clyburn was King maker for Joe and Joe owes African Americans bigtime, this is a much different situation than existed in the past. Ya kinda got em by the balls this time...
 
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