Pandemic 2020
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radiant Rudy
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developed nations have govt health care for their citizens. Here in USAits just another way for a rich motherfucker to fuck you out of your blood sweat and tears.
Fogdog
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"Never waste a crisis" Rahm Emmanuel
Sanders said the same thing at the debate. What a pile of dreck. It will take years to implement and ignores what can be done now. Biden took him to the woodshed for it
srh88
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My job offers great insurance.. but we cant even get tested here unless you've been to china. They just tell you to self quarantine apparently
srh88
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I just thought it was funny to see nader pop up
Fogdog
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'Try getting it yourselves': Trump told governors they're responsible for getting their own medical equipment to treat coronavirus patients
www.businessinsider.com
"Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment — try getting it yourselves," Trump told the governors during a phone call, The New York Times reported. "We will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves. Points of sales, much better, much more direct if you can get it yourself."
The Times reported that Trump's directive took some of the governors by surprise given that states are already working overtime to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus and are hoping for more federal aid.
'Try getting it yourselves': Trump told governors they're responsible for getting their own medical equipment to treat coronavirus patients
Trump's directive reportedly took some of the governors by surprise given that states are already working overtime to contain the spread of the virus.
www.businessinsider.com
"Respirators, ventilators, all of the equipment — try getting it yourselves," Trump told the governors during a phone call, The New York Times reported. "We will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves. Points of sales, much better, much more direct if you can get it yourself."
The Times reported that Trump's directive took some of the governors by surprise given that states are already working overtime to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus and are hoping for more federal aid.
Fogdog
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Yeah, these guys are clueless. Completely lost when it comes time to actually do something.
They are pure though.
Jimdamick
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Fuck yea!!!!
My last meal is definitely going to be American (Italian?).
Give me some rare steak & potatoes & fresh corn & apple pie & I'll die happy.
Irish food sucks
srh88
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So what happens if biden and trump both catch it and go down?
Jimdamick
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Yea, I know a few alcoholics that are pretty fucking sad right now because their favorite gin mills are shuttered.
Think about it
DIY-HP-LED
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I agree with the general sentiment of Ralph's post, but now is not the time to fuck around, but to focus efforts, it's not even time to blame Donald yet, but that day is coming. This crises will change the debate around healthcare in America, but right now is not the time to have that debate. People adapt to crises and they will get used to this one too, ya got used to Donald after all and that was a daily crises! Like the Blitz in WWII London, you will quickly get used to the new reality and then the debate and investigations will begin. Folks are spooked right now, but not for long, when shit happens we humans organise and if Donald disorganisation is in the way, he will be bypassed.
Some one must have talked to Donald, maybe Mitch, and made some kind of an impression (with a club), cause he's bucked up and walked straight today! Maybe the markets going through the floor scared the shit out of him.
londonfog
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We went from a meeting were you had the kids playfully talking shit about how great they were going to be this year, how no one is going to be able to hit his/her fastball. how many double plays they were going to create... to tears in eyes because now they are not able to play a game and socialize with friends. Fucking sad. This world is one cruel bitchYea, I know a few alcoholics that are pretty fucking sad right now because their favorite gin mills are shuttered.
Think about it
Jimdamick
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Very good point.
This a very serious issue actually, along with how the fuck are we going to be able to vote in 7 months?
Does anyone else see the prospect of the election being delayed & Trump continuing on as POTUS under an Emergency Act?
Fogdog
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The selection of the nominee is done at the conventions. I think it would be time to get creative. I'd go for gladiator contests among the primary contestants. Buttigieg vs Booker would be a great match. It being that nobody ran against Trump, they just put up his preserved corpse for election. It couldn't do the job worse than Trump did.
DIY-HP-LED
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Yep the Trumpers will have Trump's Tomb (with 2' high gold letters) where they will keep him preserved under glass like Lenin and roll out the wax work every 4 years. Do you actually need to be alive to run? Or is that another loophole a dead Donald could slither through.
Fogdog
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Boris Johnson. Wakes up with a hangover from the previous evening and finds out there are only 5,000 ventilators in the entire UK healthcare system. He gets on a conference call and asks automobile components manufacturers and such to design and build 30,000 more,
in two weeks!
Sounds like the goof is in over his head.
Coronavirus: PM urges industry to help make NHS ventilators
www.bbc.com
It comes amid growing concern about a shortage of the life-saving equipment as coronavirus infections increase.
Carmakers and the construction equipment firm JCB are among manufacturers to be contacted.
Downing Street said it wanted the manufacturing sector "to come together to help the country".
"Preparing for the spread of the coronavirus outbreak is a national priority and we're calling on the manufacturing industry and all those with relevant expertise who might be able to help to come together to help the country tackle this national crisis," Downing Street said.
On Sunday's BBC Andrew Marr show, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said engineering firms should consider switching some manufacturing to help ramp production of the vital equipment. He accepted it was the kind of policy normally reserved for times of war.
"We've got high quality engineering in this country," Mr Hancock said. "We want anybody who has the manufacturing capability to turn to the manufacture of ventilators, to do that."
in two weeks!
Sounds like the goof is in over his head.
Coronavirus: PM urges industry to help make NHS ventilators
PM urges industry to help make NHS ventilators
Boris Johnson is to ask engineering firms to shift production lines to build the life-saving equipment.
www.bbc.com
It comes amid growing concern about a shortage of the life-saving equipment as coronavirus infections increase.
Carmakers and the construction equipment firm JCB are among manufacturers to be contacted.
Downing Street said it wanted the manufacturing sector "to come together to help the country".
"Preparing for the spread of the coronavirus outbreak is a national priority and we're calling on the manufacturing industry and all those with relevant expertise who might be able to help to come together to help the country tackle this national crisis," Downing Street said.
On Sunday's BBC Andrew Marr show, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said engineering firms should consider switching some manufacturing to help ramp production of the vital equipment. He accepted it was the kind of policy normally reserved for times of war.
"We've got high quality engineering in this country," Mr Hancock said. "We want anybody who has the manufacturing capability to turn to the manufacture of ventilators, to do that."
DIY-HP-LED
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They might want to consider a VP for the VP, a VVP if you will, a Holy Trinity headed by Joe the father...
DIY-HP-LED
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This won't peek until June they say and an emergency program to make good enough ventilators like liberty ships could be quickly implemented, military logistics. The more time the better and it should have been initiated long ago, but a standard simplified design could be made quickly, including the kind that work like iron lungs. It would be criminal not to try and the chinese are probably way ahead of the curve here and can help a lot.Boris Johnson. Wakes up with a hangover from the previous evening and finds out there are only 5,000 ventilators in the entire UK healthcare system. He gets on a conference call and asks automobile components manufacturers and such to design and build 30,000 more,
in two weeks!
Sounds like the goof is in over his head.
Coronavirus: PM urges industry to help make NHS ventilators
PM urges industry to help make NHS ventilators
Boris Johnson is to ask engineering firms to shift production lines to build the life-saving equipment.
It comes amid growing concern about a shortage of the life-saving equipment as coronavirus infections increase.
Carmakers and the construction equipment firm JCB are among manufacturers to be contacted.
Downing Street said it wanted the manufacturing sector "to come together to help the country".
"Preparing for the spread of the coronavirus outbreak is a national priority and we're calling on the manufacturing industry and all those with relevant expertise who might be able to help to come together to help the country tackle this national crisis," Downing Street said.
On Sunday's BBC Andrew Marr show, Health Secretary Matt Hancock said engineering firms should consider switching some manufacturing to help ramp production of the vital equipment. He accepted it was the kind of policy normally reserved for times of war.
"We've got high quality engineering in this country," Mr Hancock said. "We want anybody who has the manufacturing capability to turn to the manufacture of ventilators, to do that."
Fogdog
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I saw your DIY ventilator post.
It's not just a matter of moving air in and out. You have to get the pressure and flow just right or you can kill the patient. With sophisticated sensors and online monitors AND a capable, trained ICU nurse, those marvels of engineering made predominately by Swiss and Swedish manufacturers have become life savers.
So, no. Ridiculous idea to just design and build one from scratch in even a couple of months.
DIY-HP-LED
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Foggy they've had ventilators for a lot longer than they've had modern digital electronics, sensors and feedback loops for control. The DIY ventilator post was a joke, but the one under it about the currass ventilators was interesting and reproducible in simplified form on a large scale. This is an extreme emergency situation and things can happen very quickly with the right person in charge of the program with the proper authorityI saw your DIY ventilator post.
It's not just a matter of moving air in and out. You have to get the pressure and flow just right or you can kill the patient. With sophisticated sensors and online monitors AND a capable, trained ICU nurse, those marvels of engineering made predominately by Swiss and Swedish manufacturers have become life savers.
So, no. Ridiculous idea to just design and build one from scratch in even a couple of months.
I think the chinese have already done the heavy lifting on this and have anticipated market need if nothing else, I'm sure inquires are being made. This is a base all governments should have already covered. Like I said, we have to try, even if it's too late, and we don't need the latest greatest either, just good enough to do the job.
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