Pandemic 2020

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DIY-HP-LED

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Trump seems to be getting ready to ignore the advice of health professionals.



CNN)President Donald Trump signaled Monday he is aware things may get worse before they get better as the country battles the coronavirus pandemic. But nonetheless he is itching to ease federal guidelines that have shuttered businesses and kept workers at home, insisting the economy must be reopened even if some of the health professionals on his team appear to disagree.
"Our country wasn't built to be shut down. This is not a country that was built for this. It was not built to be shut down," he said during an evening briefing at the White House, even as he acknowledged Monday the effects of coronavirus are likely to worsen.
"Certainly, this is going to be bad," Trump said.
The dueling positions underscored the dynamic currently animating Trump's coronavirus task force, which is split on whether the self-isolating measures are worth the cost to the economy.


Trump admitted there were opposing views, but he insisted he would take into account the views of officials such as Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease specialist.
"If it were up to the doctors, they may say let's keep it shut down -- let's shut down the entire world," Trump said.
Halfway through the self-prescribed period of self-isolation, the economic effects are clearly weighing on the President, who had banked on a strong US economy in his reelection plans.
As the country entered another week of virtual shutdown, tough questions have been raised on how long the coronavirus mitigation measures he recommended will last and whether they are worth the economic pain.
The states will rebel, in 15 days the American public is gonna be in shock at the disaster unfolding in their hospitals. By next week you'll never hear about it again, what 15 day plan? Never heard of it... It's not my fault, I take no responsibility...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think Fauci sleeps with Rudy.......i doubt you'll see him again, he's not useful to trump any more.
He's gonna get fired because he makes Donald look bad, it won't matter as time goes on, the states are increasingly taking charge of public health and other than money or assistance, they don't have much say now. Even the states are rolling out their own testing and labs are gearing up for it now. If he fired Fauci it might even be good, he would be on TV more and speaking more freely, Biden would hire him back in a heartbeat.
 

Fogdog

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The states will rebel, in 15 days the American public is gonna be in shock at the disaster unfolding in their hospitals. By next week you'll never hear about it again, what 15 day plan? Never heard of it... It's not my fault, I take no responsibility...
probably right. By next week, the idea of business as usual will be a fond memory.

On the good news, Italy has seen two days in a row where the number of deaths have dropped. OK, so not great news but they may have turned the corner.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here is what is in the media today about hydroxychloroquine

https://www.insidernj.com/press-release/top-doctors-join-pennacchios-call-use-hydroxychloroquine-combat-spread-covid-19/

Top Doctors Join Pennacchio’s Call to Use Hydroxychloroquine to Combat Spread of COVID-19
March 23, 2020, 1:05 pm | in
Top Doctors Join Pennacchio’s Call to Use Hydroxychloroquine to Combat Spread of COVID-19

A recent French peer review study by renowned infectious disease specialist Dr. Didier Raoult which was published in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents showed promising results in the treatment of COVID-19 with Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ).
The French study also showed a significant decrease in “viral shedding,” from patients treated with HCQ. The lower the shedding, the less likelihood that the virus can be communicated to other individuals.

As the medical profession evaluates different treatment options, public health officials should adopt early treatment measures with the existing tools at our disposal. HCQ is an inexpensive, safe drug that has been used in the treatment of malaria for seventy years.
With no vaccine or antiviral in place, HCQ is the lead candidate for early treatment against the COVID-19 virus. This was the conclusion of a recent medical paper written by Dr. Raymond Chang whose affiliations include the Institute of East-West Medicine in New York and the National Taiwan University Hospital in Taiwan.

HCQ has the ability to prevent the virus from entering the cell, as well as to prevent the virus from replicating. HCQ has the unique factor of being able to accumulate high concentrations in the lungs (specifically where it is needed). What is also appealing is the long duration (22 day half-life) of HCQ in the body. These factors make it promising for early treatment if ingested days before the virus is introduced.

Worldwide reaction to the virus has been one of containment through isolation and social distancing. The objective of early treatment is to decrease the time of isolation and social distancing. The longer the isolation the more devastating the effects on our lives. A nationwide program of early treatment with HCQ, along with concurrent isolation may reap exponential benefits. The existing record of HCQ, its promise of efficacy in the treatment of COVID-19 and low costs make the risk to benefit ratio well worth the effort.

Federal and State governments should immediately direct public policy towards increasing production, storage and establishing a distribution protocol and regimen for HCQ to ameliorate the spread of the COVID-19 virus. This was the conclusion reached by U.S. academic studies in response to French infectious disease specialist Dr. Raoult’s peer review study, saying HCQ has a strong potential as a prophylactic measure against the severity of COVID-19.

We the undersigned agree with New Jersey State Senator Joe Pennacchio that all levels of government should work together to ameliorate the COVID-19 pandemic by developing an early treatment to minimize the effects of the virus and reduce its communicability by decreasing viral shedding with the use of Hydroxychloroquine:
Anika Ackerman MD
Urology
Joseph Addeo MD
Oncology
Munir Ahmed MD
Orthopedics
Niran Al-Agba DO
Pediatrics
Frank Alario MD
Internal Medicine
Sharon Carswell MD
Family Medicine
Kimberly Corba MD
Family Medicine
Doug Crane MD
Internal Medicine
Madeline Danny DO
Family Medicine
Philip DeFina PhD
Neuroscientist Clinical Research
US ARMY Intel
Anthony Dippolito MD
MBA General & Colorectal Surgeon
John Eck MD
Family Medicine
Josephine Feingold MD
Emergency Medicine
Ken Fisher MD
Family Medicine
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doublejj

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probably right. By next week, the idea of business as usual will be a fond memory.

On the good news, Italy has seen two days in a row where the number of deaths have dropped. OK, so not great news but they may have turned the corner.
i think they just stopped counting....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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More of today's media buzz
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Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine: what to know about the potential coronavirus drugs
(CNN)As the world's health experts race to find treatments -- and eventually, a cure -- for the novel coronavirus, two drugs have jumped to the front of the conversation: chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine.

President Donald Trump has called the drugs, which are used to treat malaria and other conditions, game changers, and a rush to procure the pharmaceuticals spurred several US states to take measures to prevent shortages amid the Covid-19 pandemic.

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New York moved to begin trials Tuesday, procuring 70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine and 750,000 doses of chloroquine, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said. In addition Bayer, the drug maker, has donated 3 million doses of Resochin, its brand name for chloroquine, to the federal government.


Perhaps demonstrating why health officials are urging caution -- saying chloroquine requires further clinical study and might not be the panacea it's billed to be -- officials in Nigeria's Lagos state have reported three overdoses in the days since the drug entered the conversation surrounding the pandemic.

So, what exactly are these drugs, and what promise do they hold?

Vital to battle against malaria
Chloroquine is used to treat malaria, as well as in chemoprophylaxis, which is the administering of drugs to prevent the development of disease, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since 2006, it has not been recommended for use in severe malaria because of problems with resistance, particularly in the Oceania region, according to the World Health Organization.
WHO includes it on its list of "essential medicines," meaning it should be kept affordable and accessible at all times.

According to the Swiss-registered organization, Medicines for Malaria Venture, chloroquine is a derivative of quinine, which French chemists in 1820 isolated from the bark of the cinchona tree found in South America, employing it as a treatment for fevers.
German scientists created the synthetic chloroquine in 1934 as part of a class of anti-malarials, MMV said, and chloroquine and DDT became "the two principal weapons in WHO's global eradication malaria campaign" following World War II, the organization said.
Hydroxychloroquine is what's known as an analog of chloroquine, meaning the two have similar structures but different chemical and biological properties. The former is considered the less toxic derivative, according to studies.

It's given to patients with rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and the blood disorder porphyria cutanea tarda, the CDC said.

'It's not going to kill anybody'
The reason Trump lauds the drugs is because they've been shown, in labs, to be effective against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronaviruses -- including the SARS strain that causes Covid-19 -- as well as other coronaviruses, the CDC said.
Hydroxychloroquine is being studied to determine if it can prevent the onset of Covid-19 before or after a patient is infected with the SARS coronavirus strain that causes it, and if it can be used to treat Covid-19 sufferers, the CDC said.
Because the drug has been in use for years, Trump said, it potentially poses fewer risks than a newly developed drug.

"The nice part is," he said last week, "it's been around for a long time, so we know that if things don't go as planned, it's not going to kill anybody."
The CDC cited a study, documented in the journal Bioscience Trends this month, that chloroquine phosphate has demonstrated "apparent efficacy and acceptable safety against COVID-19-associated pneumonia" in trials in China.

It is thus considered a recommended antiviral for Covid-19 treatment in China, and several countries are recommending both drugs for hospitalized Covid-19 patients, the CDC said.
Chloroquine also appears to have "broad-spectrum antiviral properties" and effects on immune response, Bayer said in its statement announcing the drug donations.
"New data from initial preclinical and evolving clinical research conducted in China, while limited, shows potential for the use of Resochin in treating patients with COVID-19 infection," the statement said.

Evidence only anecdotal, expert said
Regarding the combination of hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin -- which Trump tweeted could be "one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine" -- a single "small study" shows the combination helped against the SARS strain that causes Covid-19, the CDC said, but "did not assess clinical benefits."
The CDC said the combination can disrupt the heart's electrical activity and warns against prescribing the paired drugs to anyone with chronic medical conditions, such as renal failure or hepatic disease.
Chloroquine's side effects include seizures, nausea, vomiting, deafness, vision changes and low blood pressure. Both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, however, are reportedly well-tolerated in Covid-19 patients, according to the CDC.
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I would leave the big city’s and move in with a friend or family member wait to see what happens. Food rationing is next.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Rand Paul is a fucking bonehead, single handedly wiping out the senate! Jesus Christ!
Doctor Criticizes Sen. Paul For Not Self-Quarantining | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., became the first known Senator to test positive for the coronavirus, which has sent shock waves through Congress. Sen. Ezekiel Emanuel criticizes Sen. Paul, who is a physician, for not going into self-quarantine.
 

abalonehx

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Trumpers are just wonderful people, aren't they?
So this woman not only buys out a local Dollar Tree of every single box of paper towels, napkins, and toilet paper so that no one else can buy any, but caps it off with this:

"Donald Trump! Go Donald Trump!"
 
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