canadiantoker420
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RO Water / Calmag with Soft Water Nutrients?
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canadiantoker420
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Gorilla zkittlez,, blue cheese n 8ball kush the 6 biggest onesunder the light , 2 left ones front n back r GZ two middle r 8ball, and far right is 8ball on front back one zkittlez
Dr. Who
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Use extra Mg then.....
Take about 81/2 TBL of Epsom salts and 1.5 tsp of dark brown sugar and mix that with one gallon of RO or filtered drinking water...
You know have the same concentration as most Mg supplements.
Start out at about 5 ml per gallon and go up to 10 ml if need be. I would stop use of that supplement about at week 4-5.
Take about 81/2 TBL of Epsom salts and 1.5 tsp of dark brown sugar and mix that with one gallon of RO or filtered drinking water...
You know have the same concentration as most Mg supplements.
Start out at about 5 ml per gallon and go up to 10 ml if need be. I would stop use of that supplement about at week 4-5.
canadiantoker420
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Barney’s GZ and 8ball each a 3 pack and I germinated another 3 blue cheese by kera seeds to the tent a week later. Big ones sprouted on the 24/25th
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So ur actually saying ima possibly need more than the required 5ml per gallon the beginning of flower with this particular strain?i also heard blue cheese is heavy/choosy feeder? My advanced nutrients 3 part supposedly has cal mag in it too right? I just fed the bigger 6 a gallon jug with 3ml cal max,2ml micro 2.6ml grow n 2ml bloom , the gallon fed 5 so I mixed up a Ginny pig round for 1 gorilla zkittlez i put lil more nutes, for 1.5 liters I put 1.25ml cal max , n 1ml of each mic grow n bloom that should b closer to 600ppm right, I think the other solution was probly 4-450 wit everything cuz I used distilled water
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canadiantoker420
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And so u say to use the Epsom salts after week 4 of bloom instead of the cal max 2-0-0 to prevent too much nitrogen I’m guessing right? I can just use less grow in my base if that’s the issue, at ratio 1-1-1 the advanced 3 part works to b 4-3-8 I believe , I wonder what’s a great ratio to use for bloom if that’s the case? Maybe 1.5 mic 1 grow 2 bloom kinda deal? Er
canadiantoker420
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I’m runnnig sum voodoo juice and wen I start up big bud on day 8-9-10 il give sum voodoo then and maybe again on the next big bud feed eeh? I’m kinda new to indoor growing but I’ve done sum crazy mixtures outdoors and come up with sum wicked results previously lol also I wonder if picking up a 20$ Quarter liter bottle of nirvana for this run and have sum left over for my outdoor I heard that greases ur nugz up solid
Dr. Who
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Eek, getting right to the particulars eh?
You have it wrong there. Ca is either in my soil or as in synthetic runs it is in the nutrient line of choice.
I add the Mg sulfate for another reason BUT, it also takes care OF those Mg hungry strains, when I use it.
I will not use AN - that's another thread.
Umm, in bloom my NPK is like 4-6-10 with a home made supplement of K2so4 at 6% by volume. That is used just till week 4-5 and then it runs 4-6-6
NOW THEN it is a 5-0-0 N supplement with Mn added to it, that is used as the extra N in the early bloom thing.
In veg? I don't feed much at all due to the soil I'm using.. But I would put it around 5-1-2 when it is used. That is very little too.
I build my own soils and take meticulous care in balancing certain things to availability levels I want for those specific things... That is measured in available ppm in the soil... This is for micro's of a few types.... The balance needs to be rather precise.... This is for final THC counts....
This is an art you learn. It's hard to teach unless you can simply look at a plant and you know what it's doing - in all ways.
canadiantoker420
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I pretty much can look at them and know, just not used to advanced for base nutes I been running there additives forever 10+ yrs I started with plant prod 20-20-20 all purpose for veg outdoors switching to 15-30-15 for flower, I’ve used the maxi line up , flora nova grow n bloom, Dagda lord of the fields?time release stuff that works excellent outdoors if u can judge when to put another shot glass in a circle trench around ur plant in time lol b4 ur plant runs out. I’ve mix matched em all up too, Gaia green is my next choice outdoors I think. How u like water culture? I neve fuct wit it b4
canadiantoker420
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What u think il have for room if I keep vegging these? Lol I gotta watch out gorilla zkittlez might fuck off on me and 2.5 stretch or sumthing that y when I put my second 600w hps in there in 3-4 days ima keep the metal halide 600 in for 10 days probly then switch that up for an hps n run da 1200w , how much u think I could yield roughly if i were to throw em in flower rn dude ? Ballpark guess I’m an indo noob aha?
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I wonder if ima have issues with the 8ball kush being shorter then the gorillaz n blue cheese half way thru? I know 8ball spose to stay short n squat but my tallest pheno on the stick is like 15 inch now lol 2 inch taller then my tallest GZ soo? Wha
OldMedUser
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Find something for it to sit on to get the tops level with the rest.
Dr. Who
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I always veg to about 24-28 inch's in my tents.
canadiantoker420
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Yessir, man could u tell me if this is iron def or what? Quick lowdown is that I been using vinegar to lower my crazy high ph of tap water it’s like 8 sumthing to begin, well vinegar don’t rly work eh it actually raises in time inside ur medium long after u last check the ph, so I went with distilled water right, the last couple days my leaves been yellowing from inside out at the bud sites as u c, I flipped my lights to 12/12 last night too I don wanna stress em out and cause a low yield what do I do? I can almost guarantee my ph st the soil is a lil high it probly has to be eh? There day 34 ish from sprout and this problem slowly got worst over time it didn’t rly come on crazy fast except last night til now I see a way bigger diff it’s yellowing quicker
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I have ph down now, but I’m kinda scared to use my soft filtered water at the house, I can go buy distilled water though I’m probly gonna grab 10 gallons tmrw
canadiantoker420
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Would it be smart to ph sum water at 5.5 when there “dryer” and give them a liter each of that before giving there last half liter of pure distilled or what
OldMedUser
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Best to give them some distilled first if they are really dry. You ever find out the ppm of your water? A high pH usually indicated a fairly high ppm and those minerals will build up in your soil over time and make it very hard to keep the pH down which can lead to things like low iron due to locking out.
Vinegar is not recommended for long term use. pH down isn't very expensive if you can get it now.
I'll be getting a fire going with the windfall around here and melting snow in a 30qt soup pot we have to use on my plants to preserve the RO we buy for us to drink. Got lots of wood and snow and plenty of spare time.
canadiantoker420
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It’s soft filtered water and under 90 ppm for sure, I been using ph down for the last 3 weeks, n I been preaching on this site the last 2 weeks of how shitty vinegar is too lol no worries haha . Thanks n e ways tho dude!Best to give them some distilled first if they are really dry. You ever find out the ppm of your water? A high pH usually indicated a fairly high ppm and those minerals will build up in your soil over time and make it very hard to keep the pH down which can lead to things like low iron due to locking out.
Vinegar is not recommended for long term use. pH down isn't very expensive if you can get it now.
I'll be getting a fire going with the windfall around here and melting snow in a 30qt soup pot we have to use on my plants to preserve the RO we buy for us to drink. Got lots of wood and snow and plenty of spare time.
Dr. Who
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Sorry I'm so late here. Busy time around here as demand has gone through the roof and we're adjusting to run more food stuffs farm wise...
I see some S and possible Fe micro def here.
I might be inclined to go to a MAD FARMER down product. It's a mix of acids that works well with our chosen plant. It will also use about half as much as any other down on the market. It also holds that pH down better...
Your soil could be running a bit high, and for the reasons you suspect. There could be a bit of blocking by cross chem reaction - from the pH.
Use a home made Epsom mix (the one I line out here all the time) Or maybe any reasonable sulfate but, "I" would go for the Mg sulfate.
YES, get a real pH down and be settled about how it works....
I always have the MAD FARMER "get down" around for my synthetic runs.
I see some S and possible Fe micro def here.
I might be inclined to go to a MAD FARMER down product. It's a mix of acids that works well with our chosen plant. It will also use about half as much as any other down on the market. It also holds that pH down better...
Your soil could be running a bit high, and for the reasons you suspect. There could be a bit of blocking by cross chem reaction - from the pH.
Use a home made Epsom mix (the one I line out here all the time) Or maybe any reasonable sulfate but, "I" would go for the Mg sulfate.
YES, get a real pH down and be settled about how it works....
I always have the MAD FARMER "get down" around for my synthetic runs.
troyboyington
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do you use a 500 or 700 ppm scale on the meter when measuring the ppm for the cal mag?