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TreeFarmerCharlie

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he says it in his first sentence from the link you provided What most do not realize is Spider Farmer is Mars Hydro...... They send this stuff straight to a Amazon warehouse from China.
Then you and I were arguing to very different things. I thought you said HLG and Mars Hydro were the same lights. I even said in one of my replies to you that Spider/Mars stole HLGs design, so I assumed you understood I meant that Spider and Mars are the same and they stole HLGs design.
 

PhatNuggz

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Then you and I were arguing to very different things. I thought you said HLG and Mars Hydro were the same lights. I even said in one of my replies to you that Spider/Mars stole HLGs design, so I assumed you understood I meant that Spider and Mars are the same and they stole HLGs design.
LOL. What's to steal? The SF is a far superior design to anything HLG has marketed so far. Back in 2014 Nick (then BML) was using separate mono diode lights to make SPYDR bar lights, one for veg and one for flower @ $1000 per. I approached him with my idea that one light could be made to do both, thereby increasing sales. I still use it to this day. The SF mixing of nm diodes is similar in concept.

You probably can't see it but these bars are a mix of 450, cool white, neutral white, warm white and 630. I wanted 2 bars for just just grow and the rest for flower, but his factory assembly line was not equipped to do that
 

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TreeFarmerCharlie

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LOL. What's to steal? The SF is a far superior design to anything HLG has marketed so far. Back in 2014 Nick (then BML) was using separate mono diode lights to make SPYDR bar lights, one for veg and one for flower @ $1000 per. I approached him with my idea that one light could be made to do both, thereby increasing sales. I still use it to this day. The SF mixing of nm diodes is similar in concept.

You probably can't see it but these bars are a mix of 450, cool white, neutral white, warm white and 630. I wanted 2 bars for just just grow and the rest for flower, but his factory assembly line was not equipped to do that
From what I understand, they copied the design and used the "Quantum Board" name. I'm not saying you can't build something as good as an HLG light for a fraction of the cost, because you definitely can.
 

Barristan Whitebeard

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LOL. What's to steal? The SF is a far superior design to anything HLG has marketed so far. Back in 2014 Nick (then BML) was using separate mono diode lights to make SPYDR bar lights, one for veg and one for flower @ $1000 per. I approached him with my idea that one light could be made to do both, thereby increasing sales. I still use it to this day. The SF mixing of nm diodes is similar in concept.

You probably can't see it but these bars are a mix of 450, cool white, neutral white, warm white and 630. I wanted 2 bars for just just grow and the rest for flower, but his factory assembly line was not equipped to do that
Do you know what type of diodes Mr. Klase of BML incorporated into the light he made for You?

I'm curious what they were utilizing for the various white and mono-colored blue and red diodes back then. Although they weren't acquired by Osram until 2018, how long have Fluence been using their diodes for?
 

P10p

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he says it in his first sentence from the link you provided What most do not realize is Spider Farmer is Mars Hydro...... They send this stuff straight to a Amazon warehouse from China.
So spider farm is marshydro. What does this the have to do with HLG like you originally claimed?
 

PhatNuggz

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Do you know what type of diodes Mr. Klase of BML incorporated into the light he made for You?

I'm curious what they were utilizing for the various white and mono-colored blue and red diodes back then. Although they weren't acquired by Osram until 2018, how long have Fluence been using their diodes for?
Sorry, too long ago. Perhaps these will help you get the answers you seek. I do recall mine was delayed awaiting then newest Osram diodes


 

P10p

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Jeesh UPS just added a 150 charge on day of delivery this is crazy. Light I originally thought was 750 is now going to cost me 1300 all said and done.
 

TreeFarmerCharlie

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Jeesh UPS just added a 150 charge on day of delivery this is crazy. Light I originally thought was 750 is now going to cost me 1300 all said and done.
Are you not in the US and just got import fees added? I can't think of any other reason UPS would charge you for a delivery.
 
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