Flip to 12/12 ?

JSB99

JSB99

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jondamon said:
Yes I agree topping is the most stressful especially during flowering so it’s not recommend which is why it wasn’t in my list of things you CAN do during first few weeks of 12/12.
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Oh yeah, I'm sure that you knew. It was for the noobs :)
 
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jondamon said:
I remember when I ran a BLOCKBUSTER XXL air cooled hood when I used a 600w. Those fuckers could bend over if they hit it but light bleaching was a bitch.
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I'm running the Yield Masters. Can cram 2 in a 4x4. 2x- 600w in a 4x4 got me 2lbs from 8 autos on my first grow.
Glad I dropped the cash on them.
 
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.Smoke said:
I'm running the Yield Masters. Can cram 2 in a 4x4. 2x- 600w in a 4x4 got me 2lbs from 8 autos on my first grow.
Glad I dropped the cash on them.
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I ran 1 grow with my BLOCKBUSTER 600w setup and then HOT FUZZ came and took it all away. Fucking bastards. That hood alone cost me £170 ffs.
 
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Quinteli

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.Smoke said:
Personally I'd flip, bend and supercrop as needed. I supercropped the top 10" of that Gorilla Glue last night. She'll be good :bigjoint:
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Yeah I want them to recover a bit more from the topping and defoliation. I guess I'll learn how to bend superscrop in flower as I go. Thnks
 
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Quinteli

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farmingfisherman said:
Hope you don't mind me chiming in here. Plants looks great and the tent looks great. That said I'd find something other than the books and cardboard boxes you are using for risers. Paper based products in a damp environment are a prime breeding ground for mold and other critters that could harm your kids. Continued success with the grow.
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Any think I couple buy instead of using boxes? Thanks
 
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Bignutes said:
If you have control over your lights cct you can also keep the cct higher during the first few weeks of stretch to limit stretch. I would tend to go more with a 16-20" height for an indicator of when to flip when topping, mainlining or 4 way lst otherwise your yields will hurt. If you don't have the ht or want to do a higher plant count go with 9" high at flip.
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I thought the longer you veg the healthier the plant would be. Also what is cct mean? My light is 20 inches away from the plants now.
 
JSB99

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Quinteli said:
So when the first flowers start to show, is that when it stops growing in height? If so how long after switching from 12/12 before the flowers start appearing?

So when the first flowers start showing is that when the plants stop growing in height and start focusing on budding? If so how long till the first flowers show after switching to 12/12. I remeasured my plants and the left one is 22inches right one is 23 inches which is weird it was always the slow grower. Rught is a bit fatter, when I topped her, I took two fan leaves of aswell that were next to where I topped to make it even with the other plant. The top of the right plant looks fuller. So I'm thinking about flipping to flower when lefty get 23 3/4 inches just below 24 inches. I understand the method of topping. You can do this and veg alot longer if you keep doing it, I wait till the 15 inches for the first topping. First pic is first day I topped

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Four plants, same height...

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There rebounding preety fast, 4 days since I topped and remove older fan leaves. 23 inches, I'm thinking about flipping them day 6 to 12/12 since there doing so well.20200406_011714.jpg20200406_011737.jpg
 
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JSB99 said:
Yeah, WW is on the lower end of stretching. That's what I'm growing right now. I topped the main when there were 6 pair of nodes. Then, I topped a second time a week or so later.

Doing a single top is fine, but in the future you'll see the advantages of doing multiple tops. One of he reasons one would top their plants is if they've gotten too large, and you need to control the height, because they may get too large for your space.

I'm early in my second week of flower

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so white widow doesnt change is size much compared to other strains when you flip to flower? right now my plants are about 12 inches, what would i expect them to become if i flipped them? im only about a 5 weeks into veg and am gonna let them continue to grow for another few weeks, but what should i expect them to grow into once i flip them?
 
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dmatt0927 said:
so white widow doesnt change is size much compared to other strains when you flip to flower? right now my plants are about 12 inches, what would i expect them to become if i flipped them? im only about a 5 weeks into veg and am gonna let them continue to grow for another few weeks, but what should i expect them to grow into once i flip them?
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That's incorrect. White Widows, like all other strains, will at least double in size, but it won't triple, like Super Silver Haze.

You want to think about flipping them soon. I'd say at 14" to 16".

Height isn't what you want to be achieving, as much as topping to get several tops and spread your branches out. Grow wide, not tall. Use a net to help control height and force the branches apart to allow more light to the lower parts.

The thing about growing tall is, it doesn't matter how tall they get, because your usable light is only going to penetrate the canopy about 12" deep. That's if you have a three ft plant, or a six ft plant. So by growing them taller and taller, you're just wasting time vegging. You may be unnecessarily spending an extra week or two in veg, when that time could be in flower, getting you a harvest earlier.
 
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dmatt0927

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JSB99 said:
That's incorrect. White Widows, like all other strains, will at least double in size, but it won't triple, like Super Silver Haze.

You want to think about flipping them soon. I'd say at 14" to 16".

Height isn't what you want to be achieving, as much as topping to get several tops and spread your branches out. Grow wide, not tall. Use a net to help control height and force the branches apart to allow more light to the lower parts.

The thing about growing tall is, it doesn't matter how tall they get, because your usable light is only going to penetrate the canopy about 12" deep. That's if you have a three ft plant, or a six ft plant. So by growing them taller and taller, you're just wasting time vegging. You may be unnecessarily spending an extra week or two in veg, when that time could be in flower, getting you a harvest earlier.
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i see what your saying. I have topped my plants about two weeks ago and like i said they are about 12" now. so from here i should top the two tops that came from the original topping right? what about the lower brances, are those worth topping at all? or just let those grow out. Ive been LST but i know my technique isnt very great and i can tell its something that takes more practice. Ive been pulling down the branches best i can every other day to expose the other areas to more light

these are my plants from a little over a week ago. the third one i received some someone else so it was only like 1" for a whole month due to a ton of issues but its doing alot better. I know it isnt going to grow very big in the long run.
 

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JSB99

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dmatt0927 said:
i see what your saying. I have topped my plants about two weeks ago and like i said they are about 12" now. so from here i should top the two tops that came from the original topping right? what about the lower brances, are those worth topping at all? or just let those grow out. Ive been LST but i know my technique isnt very great and i can tell its something that takes more practice. Ive been pulling down the branches best i can every other day to expose the other areas to more light

these are my plants from a little over a week ago. the third one i received some someone else so it was only like 1" for a whole month due to a ton of issues but its doing alot better. I know it isnt going to grow very big in the long run.
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A common topping method is to top the main stalk first, then top the four top pairs of branches a week later, which will give you eight top colas. It might sound confusing, so if you're scratching your head, I'll get you to my thread where I go into detail, and have pics.
 
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dmatt0927

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JSB99 said:
A common topping method is to top the main stalk first, then top the four top pairs of branches a week later, which will give you eight top colas. It might sound confusing, so if you're scratching your head, I'll get you to my thread where I go into detail, and have pics.
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i think i know what you are saying. would you say my plants are looking healthy for being about 5 weeks old?
 
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