Same here, 50/50. I haven't kept track, but if it was far off from 50/50 I'd have noticed. Sometimes you get some extra females and sometimes you get some extra males and that hold true even if you are starting fairly large numbers of seeds. I used to stay under the mandatory minimum of 50 and still always get right at two dozen females out of 49, sometimes a couple extra sometime a couple less. If anyone is getting a lot more females than that, I'd suspect something intersex going on. A couple of times I've had testers where I got 5 out of 5 females and I'm like Hmmmmm, could be good luck, maybe not though, maybe it's an Oooops. Since there are a number of strains that like to hermie indoors, that probably accounts for why some people report higher numbers of females. My outdoor strains and indoor strains where an actual male is used with a stable female, always end up right at about 50/50, at least from my experience. If I suddenly started consistently getting 7 out of 10 females I'd have to suspect some pollen from a female got in there someplace.
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colocowboy
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People tend to view their 10 pack as a microcosm. Less than 40 is not even a representative population to make an inference. I wonder how long it will take for the bro science to filter out of growing as legality goes on and real science is available.
TevinJonson
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canalopehaze
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I finally harvested the top of my best BOO. I left as much as I could for it to regenerate. I even harvested a bit early just because of it. Now I wait LOL. I still don't know the exact plan for it. All I do know is I can't do anything with it if it is dead. I have wanted this type of orange for a while. I can't see killing it yet.
I will update in a couple weeks if she comes around.
I will update in a couple weeks if she comes around.
iriemartin1974
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I think it's 65/35 female do to the fact they tend to not need pollenating insects as much.. So through evolution they adapt by producing more fems naturally. So I've read.
Don't know if this varies by strain or ??, but I've found that leaving around six small, lower bud sites has worked well for revegging. Some suggest pulling the buds, but I leave them alone, put the light cycle at 20/4 and feed lightly with veg period nutes while it adjusts. Early growth usually has really weird looking leaves, but they eventually return to normal.
colocowboy
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I’ve not read a study that suggests this, the research I have read suggests that the morphology of modern cannabis selective pressure distorts any presumption of natural selective morphology as the traits that we admire are recessive. Furthermore the natural morphology of the cannabis plant is to always produce dominant trait males that have a tendency to pollinate early and regress the species back toward hemp expressions. I know of no study that disputes this.
In terms of biological selection based on paired alleles it statistically reaches 50%
Nutbag Poster
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I've always wondered if the health and happiness of the mother growing the seeds has anything to do with it. If the mother doesn't like the conditions where she is, wouldn't there be an advantage to making more males to send the genes off in the air to a better spot to grow? If she's super happy, maybe she'd favor daughters to thrive in that "good spot".
colocowboy
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That’s the kind of thing that would be fun to study!
Nutbag Poster
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I recently heard a report of two separate people getting way too many males out of their Bodhi Prayer Tower (Lemon Thai x Appalachia). I was trying to figure out if that could be anything more than coincidence. All I could think of was that the Thai genes didn't like Bodhi's garden and wanted to get away... the same kind of Thai genes that like to hermie indoors too. I have a pack myself and I'm wondering if I'll get cock-blocked too. I'm curious to see.
colocowboy
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Nah, it’s just luck of distribution. Some people get a whole pack of females! It does happen, it’s rare but that’s why statistical evaluation requires larger samples to remove outlying examples.
I’ve always had good luck up until the last several years where I have gotten more than one of the dreaded pack of males.
I’ve always had good luck up until the last several years where I have gotten more than one of the dreaded pack of males.
mindriot
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Yep it evens out over large sample size, but it's not much of a consolation for the guy who pays $80 for a pack of males.
Rolloff
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That would suck. But it’s not just the 80$ you have to account for.its also cost of soil, nutes, and electric. But most important is the time wasted to find out its a male. Especially if you don’t breed and males are useless to you. That’s why I’m only doing fems. Spent too much time on plants my first two grows to find out more then half was male.
iriemartin1974
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I'd still rather find a male than a hermy sneaking by and farting in the car wash. LOL
thenotsoesoteric
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Pop 10,000 seeds, record results, publish findings.
I'm guessing itll be close to 50/50 male female and the more seeds you pop the closer to 50/50 you'll get.
Popping 10 packs at random times and environments make it hard to substantiate ratios or various other variables.
I'm guessing itll be close to 50/50 male female and the more seeds you pop the closer to 50/50 you'll get.
Popping 10 packs at random times and environments make it hard to substantiate ratios or various other variables.
It's a good thing I have lots of time to look up all the fancy words your using. Lol. But I really like learning about the plant I so love. Thank you
colocowboy
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I’ve had a college level vocabulary since I was 13, sorry about that. I can’t help it too much.
iriemartin1974
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A good forum, a better thread. Imho
canalopehaze
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I left At least that many. I got lucky and his plant replaced lots of bud sites since I lolly popped it. There were also 4 huge fan leaves that were healthy I left them too. I am running the light at 24/7 now. It worked for me the last couple times. Do they really need some dark time now?