Led grown - plants too bushy - defoliating

TreeFarmerCharlie

TreeFarmerCharlie

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spek9 said:
I've been cloning from clones for years. Hundreds upon hundreds of them, quite literally. I've not run into an issue such as this.
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I’ll take your word for it. I don’t know this guy well, and he does sell clones, so he could just have said that to try to keep people coming to him for clones for all I know. I only used clones for my first two grows. I’ve grown everything from seed since, but only because I just grow for myself and a couple of friends, so I have no issues with long grow cycles.
 
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spek9

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TreeFarmerCharlie said:
I’ll take your word for it. I don’t know this guy well, and he does sell clones, so he could just have said that to try to keep people coming to him for clones for all I know. I only used clones for my first two grows. I’ve grown everything from seed since, but only because I just grow for myself and a couple of friends, so I have no issues with long grow cycles.
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I hear you.

I pretty much only start a seed nowadays if I want another strain in the mix, for using or breeding. I didn't even start seeds for outdoors this year. I'm using some of the extra clones that'll fall out of my perpetual indoor grow.

In the past I've kept mother plants, and almost certainly will in the future again as well. Once had a Cotton Candy mother for 2-3/4 years. Managed to keep it in a 2x2' lollipopped ball the entire time, just like a stick of cotton candy ;)
 
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Fevs.

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After 36 hours my plants are recovering great! Plus got some new tops. I'm doing this again 100%.

I often don't get why people grow these 5ft high plants then strip off the lower 3ft. I do prefer growing photoperiods more like how autoflowers look. A short wide bud laden plant.

Pineapple Express#2 - 72 hours after heavy defoliation

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Blimburn seeds Cindy at 72 hours

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Barney's Farm Blue Cheese - 72 hours

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G13 C99 - 72 hours

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Blimburn seeds Cindy Favourite plant - 72 hours

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White siberian - 72 hours

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I'm going to slightly up the feed today from 600ppm tds to approx 800ppm. Just switched over to Canna Coco a and b from lucas formula. It mixes so well with my high ph tap water. After mixing it at 600ppm - 800ppm I get a ph between 5.8 and 6.1 without adjusting it. So does the lucas formula anyway, but I think I just prefer a and b as I don't have to upset the balance by guessing how much cal mag to add. I tend to switch them in grows when I run out of a and b. I quite like the gh micro and bloom in flowering.

All plants have rooted clones in soil now too, so I have a mother for every plant in these pics. I've also got some clones in coco. Vegging them out for a while then putting them in hempy buckets.

Any thoughts on whether defoliation was worth doing or not? Obviously the plants would be taller if I had left them alone, but they would still be bushy as hell with fuck all light and air getting to where it needs to get to. They haven't shown any signs of stress unless I've missed something...

I'm sold... All these years I could of opened up my plants to the light and just had masses of popcorn buds. Next defoliation will be when the flowers are growing, but it won't be as heavy. I'll just let the light in, but leave many fans on the outside still.
 
CptTripps

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Yeah, they totally bounce back so fast you can almost watch it happen. I've not been doing this a long time at all, but I was super nervous my first time. now I just get in there with scissors and start yanking big leaves, knowing that they'll all be back tomorrow.

GREAT looking plants you have there. You should be proud.
 
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Fevs.

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CptTripps said:
Yeah, they totally bounce back so fast you can almost watch it happen. I've not been doing this a long time at all, but I was super nervous my first time. now I just get in there with scissors and start yanking big leaves, knowing that they'll all be back tomorrow.

GREAT looking plants you have there. You should be proud.
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Thanks I recently ditched 7 400w lamps and ballasts and blew a couple of grand on leds. I grew with led for the 1st 6 years of growing. All blurple leds and had good results. When I switched to hps I got good yields, better yields, but lost the quality. I like growing under led, my plants love it too. I can't wait to flower these girls out. I think I flipped on April 1st. I tend to ignore when I flip though. I just let them do their thing in their own time. I've read enough 8-9 weeks only to flower from breeders to know they take as long as they take, then an extra week. lol
 
coreywebster

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Fevs. said:
Thanks I recently ditched 7 400w lamps and ballasts and blew a couple of grand on leds. I grew with led for the 1st 6 years of growing. All blurple leds and had good results. When I switched to hps I got good yields, better yields, but lost the quality. I like growing under led, my plants love it too. I can't wait to flower these girls out. I think I flipped on April 1st. I tend to ignore when I flip though. I just let them do their thing in their own time. I've read enough 8-9 weeks only to flower from breeders to know they take as long as they take, then an extra week. lol
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TBF they were budmaster LEDs were they not?

You went with the helios in the end then?
 
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Fevs.

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Defoliated again yesterday. Opened the plants up again. Lots of light getting in there. No pics today though. I'll just take pics in a few weeks to see how they look then.
 
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Fevs.

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Ok, so I peddled together some motivation and took some photo's.

Pineapple Express#2
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Blimburn seeds Cindy

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Barney's Farm Blue Cheese which is already showing colours with 5-6 weeks to go.
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Fevs.

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G13 seeds C99

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2nd Blimburn Cindy

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The lower buds are just like the top buds. Pretty even.
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White Siberian

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More colas at the top. More buds everywhere. More air flow. I just don't see any draw backs to defoliating tbh.
 
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