Is Gay Marriage Really That Big Deal?

Seamaiden

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I did with my kids. Been telling them since I began their sex education that if they liked boys more than or as much as girls, I would still love them just as much. Naturally led to questions, so I naturally explained to them, there are some people who like to be with someone their own sex more. Pretty simple. And, again, Proposition 8 does NOTHING to affect curriculum (but I've already said that).

One person's opinion on Prop. 8.
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Tdblu09

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IMO...being a gay female... it cracks me up to hear all these Gung-ho marriage is "sacred" between a man & woman...

If marriage is "SO SACRED" to these hetero anti-gay people..how do they explain the divorce rates??? What about the men and women on their 3rd and 4th marriage?!?!?! But thats ok?!?!?!?! THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

Str8 ppl barely even take their vows seriously cuz more than half give up and walk away from the "sacred marriage's" So...wtf is the big deal?!?!?!
Dont call marriage...call it a civil union if it makes u feel better but either way u cut it....its all the same shit!!!!
Ppl crack me up!!
 

Stoney McFried

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Yeah.Teach them about all of it.Kids need to know what's up, so they can tell you if some fuckstick is being inappropriate with them.
so it's cool to teach kindergarten child about homosexuality? :shock:
Exactly what I did.
I did with my kids. Been telling them since I began their sex education that if they liked boys more than or as much as girls, I would still love them just as much. Naturally led to questions, so I naturally explained to them, there are some people who like to be with someone their own sex more. Pretty simple. And, again, Proposition 8 does NOTHING to affect curriculum (but I've already said that).

One person's opinion on Prop. 8.
Amador Ledger Dispatch
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
That just a bunch of horseshit, schools do not teach about marriage in kindergarten.

did you click the link?



"........... A Bay Area elementary school got caught in the crossfire of a ballot initiative seeking to outlaw same-sex marriage in California on Tuesday after a kindergarten teacher asked her pupils to sign pledge cards promising not to use anti-gay slurs........."



my son was taught sex-ed in school in the fifth and sixth grade. NOT kindergarten. if one feels to teach them at home at a younger age is one thing.




"................... Produced by the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, the cards were given to the children as part of Faith Ringgold elementary's commemoration of National Ally Week, an event sponsored by the network and designed to discourage harassment of gay teenagers............."




"..................... School district spokeswoman Val Joyner did not return a telephone call from The Associated Press. But Joyner told The (Hayward) Daily Review that the pledge cards given the kindergartners were meant for students in middle school and beyond. The district plans to review materials used for National Ally Week more carefully in the future, she said. ............."


i can go on, and on, and on.
 

hom36rown

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It is still not required to be taught in school like those commercials say, that was one school , and I'm with stoney and sea maiden, I would have no problem with children being taught about gay marriages. I'm pretty sure most kids know anyway, I mean, have watched MTV lately.
 

Johnnyorganic

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back to business....Let's not be naive. Just because it looks like the Western world is about to get its first black intellectual president, just because the nation's most influential and populous state could very possibly decide, finally and forevermore, that two adults of the same gender can get married without the cruel hammer of religious ignorance crashing down upon their heads, well, this can't possibly be a sign that racism and homophobia, two of our three most revered national pastimes (don't forget the sexism!) are going away anytime soon.
You are CORRECT! But stop saying that. ;)
It is correct, but he did not say it so much as repeat it. Everything after 'back to business' are the words of someone else.



Mark Morford wrote it. The entire paragraph was lifted verbatim from Morford's column entitled Hate's last stand.

Hate's last stand / It's racism and homophobia, neck and neck, down to the wire. Can they hang on?
 

joepro

Well-Known Member
I love when various religions picks what part of the good book they live by.
Could the church ever question marrage based on incest?
The act of 'the gay' is sodomy.
Now let's look at what the Bible says about sodomy. We will look at the Old Testament, then the New Testament, and let the word of God speak for itself:
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. " (Leviticus 18:22-23) "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. " (Leviticus 20:13)
The New Testament states what happens to those who refuse to acknowledge God..
"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;" (Romans 1:26-28)

The act of 'the gay' is older then the bible and has writin record long before this thought of sin came about.
Genesis 19:34 On the following day, the firstborn said to the younger, "Behold, I lay last night with my father; let us make him drink wine tonight also; then you go in and lie with him, that we may preserve our family through our father."
Genesis 19:36 Thus both the daughters of Lot were with child by their father.


Genesis Then God said to him in the dream, "Yes, I know you did this with a clear conscience, and so I have kept you from sinning against me. That is why I did not let you touch her.Now return the man's wife, for he is a prophet, and he will pray for you and you will live. But if you do not return her, you may be sure that you and all yours will die."

Early the next morning Abimelech summoned all his officials, and when he told them all that had happened, they were very much afraid.Then Abimelech called Abraham in and said, "What have you done to us? How have I wronged you that you have brought such great guilt upon me and my kingdom? You have done things to me that should not be done." And Abimelech asked Abraham, "What was your reason for doing this?"
Abraham replied, "I said to myself, 'There is surely no fear of God in this place, and they will kill me because of my wife.' Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife.And when God had me wander from my father's household, I said to her, 'This is how you can show your love to me: Everywhere we go, say of me, "He is my brother." ' "
Then Abimelech brought sheep and cattle and male and female slaves and gave them to Abraham, and he returned Sarah his wife to him. And Abimelech said, "My land is before you; live wherever you like."
To Sarah he said, "I am giving your brother a thousand shekels of silver. This is to cover the offense against you before all who are with you; you are completely vindicated." Then Abraham prayed to God, and God healed Abimelech, his wife and his slave girls so they could have children again, for the LORD had closed up every womb in Abimelech's household because of Abraham's wife Sarah..
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Oh no, not the book!! I always go running from either side of the argument when somebody whips out the BIG BOOK.......





out.
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
did you click the link?



"........... A Bay Area elementary school got caught in the crossfire of a ballot initiative seeking to outlaw same-sex marriage in California on Tuesday after a kindergarten teacher asked her pupils to sign pledge cards promising not to use anti-gay slurs........."



my son was taught sex-ed in school in the fifth and sixth grade. NOT kindergarten. if one feels to teach them at home at a younger age is one thing.




"................... Produced by the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, the cards were given to the children as part of Faith Ringgold elementary's commemoration of National Ally Week, an event sponsored by the network and designed to discourage harassment of gay teenagers............."




"..................... School district spokeswoman Val Joyner did not return a telephone call from The Associated Press. But Joyner told The (Hayward) Daily Review that the pledge cards given the kindergartners were meant for students in middle school and beyond. The district plans to review materials used for National Ally Week more carefully in the future, she said. ............."


i can go on, and on, and on.
You're combining two different events, fdd. One was a kindergarten class taken on a field trip. It was to their female teacher's lesbian wedding. How did they remove those children without prior knowledge and permission from the parents? Where are the complaints from the actual parents?

The other was an instance of a kindergarten teacher mistakenly giving out a card that was developed and intended for older children, in the late grades or junior high grades if I recollect.

It appears that you are essentially regurgitating the commercial you just saw on television, and that you are taking their propaganda and accepting it all as fact.

I can go on and on.
It is correct, but he did not say it so much as repeat it. Everything after 'back to business' are the words of someone else.

Mark Morford wrote it. The entire paragraph was lifted verbatim from Morford's column entitled Hate's last stand.

Hate's last stand / It's racism and homophobia, neck and neck, down to the wire. Can they hang on?
Plagiarism again, eh? Whoops!
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
You're combining two different events, fdd. One was a kindergarten class taken on a field trip. It was to their female teacher's lesbian wedding. How did they remove those children without prior knowledge and permission from the parents? Where are the complaints from the actual parents?

The other was an instance of a kindergarten teacher mistakenly giving out a card that was developed and intended for older children, in the late grades or junior high grades if I recollect.

It appears that you are essentially regurgitating the commercial you just saw on television, and that you are taking their propaganda and accepting it all as fact.

I can go on and on.
Plagiarism again, eh? Whoops!





wrong again. i combined nothing. i just quoted from the article. and i have yet to give MY opinion. i'm just throwing things out there. :bigjoint: until i come back from the booths i haven't voted on anything. :blsmoke:
 

Seamaiden

Well-Known Member
wrong again. i combined nothing. i just quoted from the article. and i have yet to give MY opinion. i'm just throwing things out there. :bigjoint: until i come back from the booths i haven't voted on anything. :blsmoke:
Yes indeed, re-reading it I see that's exactly what you did. My apologies.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but, admittedly outside this thread, I still would have bet hard money that you'd already told us exactly how you feel about Prop. 8. Are you saying that your position is malleable at this point?
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Yes indeed, re-reading it I see that's exactly what you did. My apologies.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but, admittedly outside this thread, I still would have bet hard money that you'd already told us exactly how you feel about Prop. 8. Are you saying that your position is malleable at this point?

i'm dumb, little words please. thank you. :mrgreen::blsmoke:
 
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