Unclebaldrick
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But I want to go to a crowded bar and talk to people and kiss some of them on the mouth using my tongue!
I really do.
But I don't.
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I really do.
But I don't.
abandonconflict
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No, the lockdowns clearly make it illegal to come into contact with fomites.
Unclebaldrick
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I have never encountered that word.
Thank you.
Do you know a black market barber in my area?
Fogdog
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no I don't. You do.
abandonconflict
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Sounds racist.
Unclebaldrick
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Citation?
abandonconflict
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I actually have a fever. I'm just desperate to tell you guys I really don't think that we can keep that baseline above the apex of the curve all the way until there's a vaccine.
hillbill
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Don’t think so, just make it easier not to.
Unclebaldrick
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So am I the only one having dreams about taking exstacy and spending the night (and a good portion of the next day) in an Amsterdam techo-disco, going out for breakfast and ending up with a couple of Danish identical step-sisters?
No?
Just me?
No?
Just me?
Fogdog
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Are you sure it was just a dream?
'I authorize states governors full power..'
Oh, really?
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WHAT A FREAKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!
Oh, really?
A day after claiming 'total' power, Trump caves in
His declaration--and then retreat--on the notion that he 'calls the shots' on governor's reopening form pandemic brings three things into focus, writes Jill Filipovic. The President is a wannabe totalitarian, is ignorant of the Constitution... and Republicans cherish 'state's rights' only when...
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WHAT A FREAKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!
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Unclebaldrick
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I encounter way too many potential fomites daily. And I am one to them.
The social effect is huge. I come from a place where you say "excuse me" only when one makes unintentional, "solid" bodily contact with another. Where I live now it is greatly expanded -before C-19. If you come within 18", the person will say "excuse me" with a slightly aggrieved attitude.
Yes, as a city-raised person, it is usually me invading their "country space". Not intentionally, just a different concept of scale.
Now people here make strategic moves in a market to avoid being in an aisle with another person - and yet I suspect it might be worse in the city now. New York must be strange as hell. It kind of makes me want to sneak in for a weekend.
Too much cyber-punk and dystopian fiction, I guess. This is the future.
The social effect is huge. I come from a place where you say "excuse me" only when one makes unintentional, "solid" bodily contact with another. Where I live now it is greatly expanded -before C-19. If you come within 18", the person will say "excuse me" with a slightly aggrieved attitude.
Yes, as a city-raised person, it is usually me invading their "country space". Not intentionally, just a different concept of scale.
Now people here make strategic moves in a market to avoid being in an aisle with another person - and yet I suspect it might be worse in the city now. New York must be strange as hell. It kind of makes me want to sneak in for a weekend.
Too much cyber-punk and dystopian fiction, I guess. This is the future.
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DIY-HP-LED
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What temp are you running at abandon? There have been reported psychological complications with this bug including depression and cognitive difficulties. This is not an attempt to invalidate your posts either, it's just one human concerned for another.
DIY-HP-LED
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You are living with an infant and I know you are aware of the risks to newborns, is this adding to your anxiety over this?
abandonconflict
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I'm going to boil down my argument into as few words as possible because if you want to know how I feel, I will tell you. I feel like after pouring over the science probably more than anyone. I have something to say. It's extremely important and I'm failing utterly to convey it. Literally, nobody has understood what I am trying to say and I really can accept if people disagree, but I hate being so poorly understood here. You have asked me now many times about my feelings.
So let me simplify. When I say "lockdowns don't work". I mean that the national strategy of "flatten the curve" will not work. I feel that most people are trying to argue against what they think I am saying, that I reject social distancing or some shit. No. I'm saying that bad shit is about to happen that is avoidable.
To simplify, completely:
it is impossible to keep the apex of the curve below the baseline of the healthcare capacity all the way until there's a vaccine and if we keep trying to do it, we'll have a famine too.
Unclebaldrick
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rkymtnman
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no shit! i've seen people on C'list advertising outdoor haircuts.
maybe i'll check Ebay for a vintage Flow-bee?
DIY-HP-LED
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It is my contention that with testing and improvements in treatments to lower the overall mortality rate, we in Canada and many other western governments who are behaving rationally, can pull it off. There are currently two credible antibody treatments that have the potential to lower mortality rates to flu levels. If we can identify the vulnerable and predict who will be asymptomatic, we can just let them become infected, if they wish and self isolate until clear. This is also a dynamic situation and even plasma transfusions are a viable treatment option for those headed to a ventilator The infrastructure is already in place for blood collection and plasma making on a large enough scale, provided infection rates are held below critical levels. Lower the overall mortality rate and you lower the fear factor that will keep the economy crippled no matter what the government says. Right now getting a covid -19 infection is like playing Russian roulette, the older you are the more rounds in the revolver.
We need testing and until we get it in the west nothing's gonna reopen, furthermore I disagree with your contention and will reiterate that this is a dynamic situation in the west concerning treatment options. In reality abandon it simply depends on where you live and the social and economic conditions that prevail there will determine how things open back up. For the vast majority of the human population it will be a Darwinian process and like everything else, the richer you are the more you can isolate yourself from the effects of natural selection.
The reason you have not been able to convince others of your contention is that you have not proved it, mathematically or otherwise. Not that your bad at math, it's just that you don't have the data to work with to prove your point.
Of course I care about if the person I talking to has a life threatening illness and might be in desperate conditions. I would even consider sending you financial support, though it would not be much for I'm not a wealthy man and live modestly. You are out of work in a developing country with a new family and no government support, PM me if you wish.
doublejj
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The Heartbreaking Last Texts of a Hospital Worker on the Front Lines
NEW YORK — Lying in a hospital bed last month, Madhvi Aya understood what was happening to her.
She had been a doctor in India, then trained to become a physician assistant after she immigrated to the United States. She had worked for a dozen years at Woodhull Medical Center, a public hospital in Brooklyn, where she could see the coronavirus tearing a merciless path through the city.
“I miss you mommy,” her daughter, Minnoli, wrote on March 25. She craved the reassurance of her mother’s hugs, the comfort of crawling into her bed. “Please don’t give up hope because I haven’t given up. I need my mommy. I need you to come back to me.”
“Love you,” Aya wrote the next day.
“Mom be back.”
Aya could not keep that promise.
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Stay home wash your hands.....flatten the curve, it's our only hope
NEW YORK — Lying in a hospital bed last month, Madhvi Aya understood what was happening to her.
She had been a doctor in India, then trained to become a physician assistant after she immigrated to the United States. She had worked for a dozen years at Woodhull Medical Center, a public hospital in Brooklyn, where she could see the coronavirus tearing a merciless path through the city.
“I miss you mommy,” her daughter, Minnoli, wrote on March 25. She craved the reassurance of her mother’s hugs, the comfort of crawling into her bed. “Please don’t give up hope because I haven’t given up. I need my mommy. I need you to come back to me.”
“Love you,” Aya wrote the next day.
“Mom be back.”
Aya could not keep that promise.
The Heartbreaking Last Texts of a Hospital Worker on the Front Lines
NEW YORK — Lying in a hospital bed last month, Madhvi Aya understood what was happening...
Stay home wash your hands.....flatten the curve, it's our only hope
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