Pandemic 2020

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hillbill

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May 1 active infections will be much higher than before we started social distancing. Virulence is the same, it is just as contagious and there are millions of potential spreading points now. To talk of relaxing now is just a sadistic whim of a malevolent fuckin pig.

There is no cure or effective treatment.

“Everything donald trump touches dies”

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hillbill

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trumpvirus has killed 30,000 Americans
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45 days and halfway to US losses in Vietnam

Piss poor and weak response by trump has made the most advanced and by far the richest country on the planet #1 in trumpvirus deaths.
 

Fogdog

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in telluride and surrouding county (san juan I think), a guy who has a home there also owns a biotech firm in Europe. he paid for everybody to be tested in the entire county. somewhere like this would be where to test the strategy of test and trace and isolate. and leave it out of the hands of gov't.
Is Colorado going to be ready when it's time to do this?
 

rkymtnman

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Is Colorado going to be ready when it's time to do this?
i haven't heard anything about test results. or i missed it.

but it would be interesting to see how people react: if they test positive, will they willingly give up info to help tracing? will they even self quarantine after testing pos? and for the people that do help, how efficiently will they be able to trace contacts both people and places?
i think it was less than 5000 people in the county so it would be a good test.
 

Fogdog

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i haven't heard anything about test results. or i missed it.

but it would be interesting to see how people react: if they test positive, will they willingly give up info to help tracing? will they even self quarantine after testing pos? and for the people that do help, how efficiently will they be able to trace contacts both people and places?
i think it was less than 5000 people in the county so it would be a good test.
If we had a rational person in charge of the federal government, they would start small with testing and contact tracing by beginning in smaller-populated areas that aren't yet seeing coronavirus cases. As you point out, there are a lot of details to be worked out before we will be ready to open up.
 

rkymtnman

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If we had a rational person in charge of the federal government, they would start small with testing and contact tracing by beginning in smaller-populated areas that aren't yet seeing coronavirus cases. As you point out, there are a lot of details to be worked out before we will be ready to open up.
yeah, for sure. even if you had a simulation where you tell people you tested pos, you tested neg, etc. here's what you need to do next kinda thing. maybe trump can appoint both of us as Virus Czars?
 

Fogdog

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yeah, for sure. even if you had a simulation where you tell people you tested pos, you tested neg, etc. here's what you need to do next kinda thing. maybe trump can appoint both of us as Virus Czars?
I wouldn't take the job unless it included the power to fire the President. Look at how the man-baby is wasting Dr Fauci's time, making him stand behind him for hours at a time. No way I'd work for him. He'd have to be subordinate to us.

It was a risk and feels like a long time ago, maybe I shouldn't have done it but I don't regret holding the Apocalypse Now family bbq and tequila night on Friday 13th of March. It might be the last time I see some of those people. The Gov ordered people stay home and isolate the following week. Nobody got sick and we agreed it was the last time we'd get together. It was only a month ago but the world ended then. We are in a new one now.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I posted this because we are seeing signs of it here now, I don't particularly agree with some of the views expressed either! I live in Canada and there are reasons for my less passionate views on this topic. I trust my government and I believe in Canada we have competent, responsible government. Even if we do all the right things here, we are still gonna be punished by the criminally negligence of US federal response.
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The Shutdown Backlash Is Coming Soon—With a Vengeance
It’s possible to support the stay-at-home order and still deeply resent it.

Laughter has been banned indefinitely during the pandemic, by order of all but a few hold-out governors, on the unanimous recommendation of health experts.
Many people, however, found it challenging to abide by the rules early in the crisis, when libertarian Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky announced that he had caught coronavirus (or, more precisely, that coronavirus had caught him). They had to conceal their amusement by directing laughter and potential airborne germs into bent elbows.

What kind of sick person is entertained by the sickness of another person?

Well, the kind of person who enjoys discovering new evidence that the Political Gods have a sense of humor. Just as there are famously no atheists in a foxhole, it would seem that there are few small-government libertarians in the midst of a pandemic.
Paul himself was out of the Senate in quarantine, so he was spared the indignity a few days later of joining a 96 to zero vote of his colleagues (including many self-described fiscal conservatives) in passing a two-trillion dollar emergency coronavirus recovery bill, which it is now clear is only a down payment on the eventual cost of federal efforts to protect the country from economic catastrophe after a nationwide shutdown. Ideology, it seems, has been suspended; everyone is counting on Big Government now.
Now that Paul has recovered—he says he felt fine and symptom-free the whole time—it is a good time to ask: Are we sure that the pandemic joke will ultimately be on him?
What if the opposite is true? Far from rendering Paul’s brand of politics irrelevant, it seems possible, even probable, that the wake of the coronavirus will be a powerful boost to the animating spirit of libertarianism: Leave me alone.

Among the questions looming over American politics is about the nature of what promise to be multiple backlashes over different dimensions of the coronavirus crisis. Most obvious is what price Trump pays for his administration’s tardiness in responding to the contagion in its early stages. Less obvious is what price supporters of activist government pay for the most astounding and disruptive intervention in the everyday life of the nation since World War II.

The imminent libertarian surge is not a sure thing but it more than a hunch. In informal conversations, one hears the sentiment even from people I know to be fundamentally progressive and inclined to defer to whatever health officials say is responsible and necessary to mitigate the worst effects of coronavirus. It is possible both to support the shutdown and powerfully resent it — the draconian nature of the response, and the widespread perception that to voice skepticism of any aspect of its necessity is outside respectable bounds.
The absolutist nature of the country’s shutdown and the economic rescue package have democratic consent—enacted by a bipartisan roster of governors and overwhelming votes in Congress—but it was the kind of consent achieved by warning would-be dissenters, Are you serious? There is no choice!
Many people concluded that for now there is nothing to do but suck it up. It won’t be surprising if some of those people eventually have an intense desire to spit out.
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DIY-HP-LED

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43% of Americans still approve of Trump, you are screwed as far as enforcing personal distancing rules go, most of these fools won't cooperate to save their own lives, much less anybody else's.

The really scary part is if he stayed off TV, twitter and STFU his poll numbers will rise like magic, they really want to believe, they are trying to shut their eyes and squeezing them as hard as they possibly can, all will quickly be forgotten and forgiven. All Donald has to do, is simply dummy up and he would be reelected, even after all this bullshit. Some say it's not possible, I say it's not possible to have a 42% approval rating after all this shit, but he has one and is only 8% away from breaking even.
 
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