Sealing up a room

Avering

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I have this closet I want to turn into a grow area. The door really sucks.. before i get into ventilating it, lighting and wiring, the first steps for me are to make it smellproof and lightproof.. I was thinking of taking it off and starting off by putting a plastic sheeting barrier with a zipper to go in and out of the room. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Pics attached158750157954420560393.jpg15875016170911519021984.jpg
 

spek9

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It would, even without the tiles I can cram it in here, I was thinking of doing that too because if not then I wouldn't be using the tent at all
I'd do it that way, especially knowing that you've already got the tent. It has everything you need for vent ports, hanging equipment, maintaining a negative air pressure and humidity and temperature management.
 

Avering

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At a glance, I pictured a 3x3' tent in that closet as well (shelves removed).
It won't fit in that closet if you remove the shelves? If those are 12" tiles then it looks like you may be able to fit it in there.
Thing is I wanted to take advantage of the closet since its like 8 ft tall but that would have to be one huge ass plant to need all that space. I am used to my tent so thats whats nice but in the future id like to make this my grow closet
 

Avering

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I'd do it that way, especially knowing that you've already got the tent. It has everything you need for vent ports, hanging equipment, maintaining a negative air pressure and humidity and temperature management.
Thank you, I think I will end up doing that then, just have to make some holes in the drywall and thats it. Appreciate it yall
 

JoeRogan420

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I have this closet I want to turn into a grow area. The door really sucks.. before i get into ventilating it, lighting and wiring, the first steps for me are to make it smellproof and lightproof.. I was thinking of taking it off and starting off by putting a plastic sheeting barrier with a zipper to go in and out of the room. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Pics attachedView attachment 4541199View attachment 4541200
bro, what do you mean make holes in the dry wall, could you post a picture and explain more in detail, as for the grow tent suggestion made by others, i guess it really comes down to how many grows are you going to do and how long can the room be a grow room, are you in a rental or do you own the house or never get inspections, if you plan to use it for at least 18 months or longer i would put $250 US dollars into it and i can help you design and brain storm on how to deck the shit out of that room, make it professional durable strong and even so you can tear it down like a grow tent if you have too, make it so watering is a breeze and all you have to do is water from the top and make it all drain out into a drain or bucket so you dont have to take plants in and out of the tent to water it, you say you have 8 feet to work with, i can already see so much better things happening in that room for around $250 dollars US and a bit of elbow grease, when you could use a $150 to $250 dollar grow tent setup and throw it away because they are weak and not that sturdy, they are also not air proof, you could keep a positive or negative air flow in a sealed room way better and have better insulation for temps inside the growing area, and more air flow, less energy potentially on air conditioning, plus more space.

message me or reply and provide better photos more details and elaborate on your dreams and ambitions for what you actually want and need out of the room, (ideal yields), time frames, outside and inside temps of your house and grow room, is there a window, and so forth.. i know it seems easier to just use a tent but trust me with a brain and a i can do attitude especially with my help,you can end up with something way better and something you will be proud of if you want to do it in my opinion properly. if you have the privacy i would highly recommend.
 

Avering

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bro, what do you mean make holes in the dry wall, could you post a picture and explain more in detail, as for the grow tent suggestion made by others, i guess it really comes down to how many grows are you going to do and how long can the room be a grow room, are you in a rental or do you own the house or never get inspections, if you plan to use it for at least 18 months or longer i would put $250 US dollars into it and i can help you design and brain storm on how to deck the shit out of that room, make it professional durable strong and even so you can tear it down like a grow tent if you have too, make it so watering is a breeze and all you have to do is water from the top and make it all drain out into a drain or bucket so you dont have to take plants in and out of the tent to water it, you say you have 8 feet to work with, i can already see so much better things happening in that room for around $250 dollars US and a bit of elbow grease, when you could use a $150 to $250 dollar grow tent setup and throw it away because they are weak and not that sturdy, they are also not air proof, you could keep a positive or negative air flow in a sealed room way better and have better insulation for temps inside the growing area, and more air flow, less energy potentially on air conditioning, plus more space.

message me or reply and provide better photos more details and elaborate on your dreams and ambitions for what you actually want and need out of the room, (ideal yields), time frames, outside and inside temps of your house and grow room, is there a window, and so forth.. i know it seems easier to just use a tent but trust me with a brain and a i can do attitude especially with my help,you can end up with something way better and something you will be proud of if you want to do it in my opinion properly. if you have the privacy i would highly recommend.
Thank you, I'm definitely interested in doing that. I do have the tent already though. I'll be in touch
 

spek9

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when you could use a $150 to $250 dollar grow tent setup and throw it away because they are weak and not that sturdy, they are also not air proof, you could keep a positive or negative air flow in a sealed room way better
First of all, I have five grow tents (2-4x4x7', 2-2x4x5' and 1-2x3x3'). Two of them I've been using for over seven years. The others, more than two. Open and close every single day at least once over that time period. They've been abused and beaten. They've held heavy equipment constantly. I have never had any problems with them being "weak and not that sturdy". I've never even had a problem with a single zipper. You obviously have never grown in a proper tent.

Second... please explain how you keep "a positive or negative air flow" in a sealed room? A sealed room is sealed. There can be no positive or negative air flow.

Also, if you're going to seal a room, it needs to be air tight, and you must provide your own supply of CO2.
 

JoeRogan420

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First of all, I have five grow tents (2-4x4x7', 2-2x4x5' and 1-2x3x3'). Two of them I've been using for over seven years. The others, more than two. Open and close every single day at least once over that time period. They've been abused and beaten. They've held heavy equipment constantly. I have never had any problems with them being "weak and not that sturdy". I've never even had a problem with a single zipper. You obviously have never grown in a proper tent.

Second... please explain how you keep "a positive or negative air flow" in a sealed room? A sealed room is sealed. There can be no positive or negative air flow.

Also, if you're going to seal a room, it needs to be air tight, and you must provide your own supply of CO2.
Thats great for you brother but dont act like the tent is not degrading quicker then a correctly made wooden grow room/box, i have grown in a "proper tent" and while i agree they are sturdy enough for the grow, unless you line with water the mat in the bottom will degrade the walls slowly start to look ratty and you can see the wear and tear, its easy to poke a hole in the tent, you cannot mount a carbon filter or a oscillating fan of any decent size to the wall in whatever position you want unlike a solid grow box or room. they leak more air and can never be fully sealed. less smell proof, ect. less light proof. they are pretty good and 95 percent light proof just i have had leaks and have had to always readjust zip ties and air intake and outtake vents with zip ties.

and they have a cheap feel to them unlike something solid. also the plastic joints for connecting the thin and weak posts have snapped on me plenty of times and i have had to duct tape them together, they are pretty weak. you must be taking really good care of your tents which i think thats great. no need to come on here and try and tell me that a weak grow tent is superior to a solid sealed grow box that has been engineered to pull down just like a grow tent, my design will out last and out perform a grow tent any day, also can do many things a tent cannot do.

not saying dont use tents but if u can and have the privacy i highly recommend it.

brother you are incorrect about your statement about negative and positive air pressures in a sealed room, please do not come on these forums spreading misinformation as it just brings everyone down.



and also you do not need C02 in a sealed grow room, as long as you have adequate air flow. It is probably more common then not, to have air intake and out takes in a sealed room, then to have no air in take and outtake and just use co2, even then you still have air in and out on your A/C unit.

I dont mean to be offensive Spek9 but i just burnt you bad, but dont comment on my things and tell me i am wrong when you are infact the one who is mistaken and wrong, how embarrassing <3 i love talking with you but just think before you say brother save me a lot of typing :Dbongsmilie:weed::peace::fire::fire::fire:
 

spek9

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Thats great for you brother but dont act like the tent is not degrading quicker then a correctly made wooden grow room/box, i have grown in a "proper tent" and while i agree they are sturdy enough for the grow, unless you line with water the mat in the bottom will degrade the walls slowly start to look ratty and you can see the wear and tear, its easy to poke a hole in the tent, you cannot mount a carbon filter or a oscillating fan of any decent size to the wall in whatever position you want unlike a solid grow box or room. they leak more air and can never be fully sealed. less smell proof, ect. less light proof. they are pretty good and 95 percent light proof just i have had leaks and have had to always readjust zip ties and air intake and outtake vents with zip ties.

and they have a cheap feel to them unlike something solid. also the plastic joints for connecting the thin and weak posts have snapped on me plenty of times and i have had to duct tape them together, they are pretty weak. you must be taking really good care of your tents which i think thats great. no need to come on here and try and tell me that a weak grow tent is superior to a solid sealed grow box that has been engineered to pull down just like a grow tent, my design will out last and out perform a grow tent any day, also can do many things a tent cannot do.

not saying dont use tents but if u can and have the privacy i highly recommend it.

brother you are incorrect about your statement about negative and positive air pressures in a sealed room, please do not come on these forums spreading misinformation as it just brings everyone down.



and also you do not need C02 in a sealed grow room, as long as you have adequate air flow. It is probably more common then not, to have air intake and out takes in a sealed room, then to have no air in take and outtake and just use co2, even then you still have air in and out on your A/C unit.

I dont mean to be offensive Spek9 but i just burnt you bad, but dont comment on my things and tell me i am wrong when you are infact the one who is mistaken and wrong, how embarrassing <3 i love talking with you but just think before you say brother save me a lot of typing :Dbongsmilie:weed::peace::fire::fire::fire:
I'm curious to learn more about your grow box. Can you share the specification documentation?

I'd like to see how you keep it sealed and allow for oxygen/C02 exchange. I'd also like to understand how it's just as convenient as a tent for disassembly and storage.

If I'm wrong, I'll willfully admit it. There's no problem there. I am not embarrassed whatsoever by the way. If I have a misunderstanding, I'm fine with that, because it means I have something new to learn.
 

spek9

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Thats great for you brother but dont act like the tent is not degrading quicker then a correctly made wooden grow room/box, i have grown in a "proper tent" and while i agree they are sturdy enough for the grow, unless you line with water the mat in the bottom will degrade the walls slowly start to look ratty and you can see the wear and tear, its easy to poke a hole in the tent, you cannot mount a carbon filter or a oscillating fan of any decent size to the wall in whatever position you want unlike a solid grow box or room. they leak more air and can never be fully sealed. less smell proof, ect. less light proof. they are pretty good and 95 percent light proof just i have had leaks and have had to always readjust zip ties and air intake and outtake vents with zip ties.

and they have a cheap feel to them unlike something solid. also the plastic joints for connecting the thin and weak posts have snapped on me plenty of times and i have had to duct tape them together, they are pretty weak. you must be taking really good care of your tents which i think thats great. no need to come on here and try and tell me that a weak grow tent is superior to a solid sealed grow box that has been engineered to pull down just like a grow tent, my design will out last and out perform a grow tent any day, also can do many things a tent cannot do.

not saying dont use tents but if u can and have the privacy i highly recommend it.

brother you are incorrect about your statement about negative and positive air pressures in a sealed room, please do not come on these forums spreading misinformation as it just brings everyone down.



and also you do not need C02 in a sealed grow room, as long as you have adequate air flow. It is probably more common then not, to have air intake and out takes in a sealed room, then to have no air in take and outtake and just use co2, even then you still have air in and out on your A/C unit.

I dont mean to be offensive Spek9 but i just burnt you bad, but dont comment on my things and tell me i am wrong when you are infact the one who is mistaken and wrong, how embarrassing <3 i love talking with you but just think before you say brother save me a lot of typing :Dbongsmilie:weed::peace::fire::fire::fire:
Also, please post some pictures of your grows that you've completed successfully in your grow box. If you're going to try to pitch something to someone, it would be prudent of you to provide backing to your claims.
 

JoeRogan420

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Also, please post some pictures of your grows that you've completed successfully in your grow box for myself, and others in this thread.
brother sealed grow rooms can have a AIR INTAKE and a AIR OUTAKE, it means no leaks, or sealed, so all air that goes out, goes directly out of the ducting to where i want to, with no leaks and high efficiency, unlike a grow tent because the material is porous and leaks air, although its not the end of the world, its just not that efficient compared to a sealed room.

the air intake also comes only through the AIR INTAKE ducting, with a grow tent air will leak in and out through the walls, the zippers, and also leak out and in around the little holes you put your ducting through.

This all means i can filter my air intake with a special mould and bug/pest filter, it would be pointless to do this in a unsealed room or grow tent, you would be wasting time and money in my opinion.

better insulation more stable temps less power consumption.

so many benifits on top you will be super happy and have pride in the work you did to build it as u suck down a joint, its stronger and better in every way.

if you can do it please do, if not, use a tent its better then nothing that is guaranteed.

also spec9, please follow me on my journey for personal medicine grow, i have photos of the box and its construction coming soon please check it out and follow me i would love your support.

there is no documentation i drew this box plans up from scratch all on my own and am building it and engineering it all on my own, because i am smart enough to do so, thats why i will be doing a full article and dedicating a full page of my journal to its contruction. so others can see how its done, how i make it and how it can be taken apart just like a grow tent and stored the same as a tent, and i will also be happy to help you or others to design there own and guide anyone through the process because i wish i had someone help me but i have to do it off my own back.

please come follow me brother much love, sorry bout my attitude but i feel like you just tried to tell me how it is when you seem to have no idea what im talking about <3



i just got $2000 for my project so things will be happening very quickly now so i suggest it is one you will want to tag along for <3
ill be ordering wood and supplys in the next day or 2. box will be built in the next 10 days or so with updates along the way.
 

spek9

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brother sealed grow rooms can have a AIR INTAKE and a AIR OUTAKE, it means no leaks, or sealed, so all air that goes out, goes directly out of the ducting to where i want to, with no leaks and high efficiency, unlike a grow tent because the material is porous and leaks air, although its not the end of the world, its just not that efficient compared to a sealed room.

the air intake also comes only through the AIR INTAKE ducting, with a grow tent air will leak in and out through the walls, the zippers, and also leak out and in around the little holes you put your ducting through.

This all means i can filter my air intake with a special mould and bug/pest filter, it would be pointless to do this in a unsealed room or grow tent, you would be wasting time and money in my opinion.

better insulation more stable temps less power consumption.

so many benifits on top you will be super happy and have pride in the work you did to build it as u suck down a joint, its stronger and better in every way.

if you can do it please do, if not, use a tent its better then nothing that is guaranteed.

also spec9, please follow me on my journey for personal medicine grow, i have photos of the box and its construction coming soon please check it out and follow me i would love your support.

there is no documentation i drew this box plans up from scratch all on my own and am building it and engineering it all on my own, because i am smart enough to do so, thats why i will be doing a full article and dedicating a full page of my journal to its contruction. so others can see how its done, how i make it and how it can be taken apart just like a grow tent and stored the same as a tent, and i will also be happy to help you or others to design there own and guide anyone through the process because i wish i had someone help me but i have to do it off my own back.

please come follow me brother much love, sorry bout my attitude but i feel like you just tried to tell me how it is when you seem to have no idea what im talking about <3



i just got $2000 for my project so things will be happening very quickly now so i suggest it is one you will want to tag along for <3
ill be ordering wood and supplys in the next day or 2. box will be built in the next 10 days or so with updates along the way.
Interesting. You were claiming that your grow box is better than a tent, and you were offering to build one of your awesome sealed boxes for another member of this forum, yet you haven't even built and tested a single one yet.

That's all I need to know.

Besides that, a grow room that has air exchange via intake and exhaust are not sealed. Sealed rooms do need C02, because, well, they're sealed. Air getting through pinholes and zippers? Bullshit. My intakes are more than 2.5 times the area of my exhaust, so no air leaks through anything but the intake vents. Even if there are pinhole leaks... how is that inefficient or even relevant?

You truly don't have any clue what you're talking about. You need to brush up on some terminology and grow room operation.

I'm going to expand and respond to some other things you commented on.

Tent corners breaking. I've never, ever broken one, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. Four out of the five tents I have though have steel corners, and the poles have pins to 'click' them into place.

Can't hang the filter on the wall? Why would anyone want to? The heat you want to exhaust is at the top of the tent, not half way up the wall.

Ability to take down and store just as easily as a tent? How could a solid-wall 4x4x6.5' box break down as compactly and neatly as a tent?

I'm all for DIY, but if I have to decide between tent and build and I opt build, I'm not building a cabinet, I'm retrofitting an entire room.

You keep talking about durability of your box. Well, my oldest tent is going on eight years old, with daily use. It's still standing and operating perfectly. Your box isn't built yet, nor do you even have any construction documentation, so I don't know how you can even begin to compare the two.

You've got a lot to learn young grasshopper.
 
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Bignutes

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I am taking a stab at a sealed room. It's in the works. Have everything figured out except the door. I have a lung room. Don't have room for doors and weatherstripping but for now you can buy a 7 foot tarp zipper at home depot and use panda plastic. I am not to keen on this but thru first attempt and fail will come another better and longer lasting idea.
 

JoeRogan420

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Interesting. You were claiming that your grow box is better than a tent, and you were offering to build one of your awesome sealed boxes for another member of this forum, yet you haven't even built and tested a single one yet.

That's all I need to know.

Besides that, a grow room that has air exchange via intake and exhaust are not sealed. Sealed rooms do need C02, because, well, they're sealed. Air getting through pinholes and zippers? Bullshit. My intakes are more than 2.5 times the area of my exhaust, so no air leaks through anything but the intake vents. Even if there are pinhole leaks... how is that inefficient or even relevant?

You truly don't have any clue what you're talking about.

I'm going to expand and respond to some other things you commented on.

Tent corners breaking. I've never, ever broken one, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. Four out of the five tents I have though have steel corners, and the poles have pins to 'click' them into place.

Can't hang the filter on the wall? Why would anyone want to? The heat you want to exhaust is at the top of the tent, not half way up the wall.

Ability to take down and store just as easily as a tent? How could a solid-wall 4x4x6.5' box break down as compactly and neatly as a tent?

I'm all for DIY, but if I have to decide between tent and build and I opt build, I'm not building a cabinet, I'm retrofitting an entire room.

You keep talking about durability of your box. Well, my oldest tent is going on eight years old, with daily use. It's still standing and operating perfectly. Your box isn't built yet, nor do you even have any construction documentation, so I don't know how you can even begin to compare the two.

You've got a lot to learn young grasshopper.
zip9 you are a hopeless mate you have no idea and i dont need to try and explain what i have already explained to you again, i dont need to have built one before, i KNOW, its called engineering, they draw it up and understanding all of the laws of physics it gets made, i dont think you know as much as you think you know, i have nothing to learn i dont think you know who you are speaking to i have most likely been involved with more grows then you, but i dont have to explain that to you as you are the one who is unable to understand, go and re read what i said because you dont understand, watch and learn bud follow my journal you are about to get schooled.

go on bud what have you ever done that makes you so impressive ? you act like you know everything and i can already see you know nothing about what i say, i have provided links on the sealed room vs unsealed debate and you lost it but still are going on about it, your wrong and thats that, i dont wanna waste to much time talking to you as you are obviously a little silly, just watch my journal and lets agree to disagree and i will just have to show you when its built you silly bugger
 

spek9

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zip9 you are a hopeless mate you have no idea and i dont need to try and explain what i have already explained to you again, i dont need to have built one before, i KNOW, its called engineering, they draw it up and understanding all of the laws of physics it gets made, i dont think you know as much as you think you know, i have nothing to learn i dont think you know who you are speaking to i have most likely been involved with more grows then you, but i dont have to explain that to you as you are the one who is unable to understand, go and re read what i said because you dont understand, watch and learn bud follow my journal you are about to get schooled.

go on bud what have you ever done that makes you so impressive ? you act like you know everything and i can already see you know nothing about what i say, i have provided links on the sealed room vs unsealed debate and you lost it but still are going on about it, your wrong and thats that, i dont wanna waste to much time talking to you as you are obviously a little silly, just watch my journal and lets agree to disagree and i will just have to show you when its built you silly bugger
I don't need to follow your beginner's Youtube or social media channels for grow, or any advice, but thanks.

You don't have to explain what engineering is. I'm an Electrical Engineer, and former licensed electrician. I've also built and sold my own homes as a side business, working at every trade on each project (except drywall... I've done enough of that and I let others do it anymore). I specifically enjoy electrical (obviously) and plumbing. I also thoroughly enjoy framing carpentry. So it's fair to say that I have more than a tiny bit of experience with design and build.

I never once said I've done anything that makes me "so impressive". I don't do things to appear anything, let alone impressive. I do things to make my and other's lives better. Similarly, I never said I knew everything either. In fact, earlier in this thread I said I don't mind not knowing things and/or having misconceptions, because it gives this engineer something new to learn.

I noticed that you have failed to comment once on your design or anything I said about your comparison of a tent vs your box. From one engineer to another, that's not how engineers communicate. They *want* to provide as much detailed information about their designs to others. They also take criticism well, because that's what improves a design. You've provided no room for criticism or even praise or ideas though, because you haven't presented any details.
 
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